To give up what's looking like 2 top 5 picks for maybe a 40 goal scorer this is looking like a franchise building trade for the Bruins. The Bruins fleeced the Canucks when they got Neely but this might be even worse. Of couse if Seguin and whoever is the pick this year don't pan out it will be a lot more even but right now this trade is starting to look like Burke's downfall in Toronto
Is the Kessel trade the greatest fleecing in NHL history?
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And Kadri is the worst draft choice of all time.
And Komisarek and Beauchemin are the worst free agent signings of all time.
Retaining Wilson as coach is the worst management move of all time.
Obviously, Burke is the worst GM of all time.
Just by reading TERB I can see we must have at least 2 dozen members who are more qualified to run the team.
And Komisarek and Beauchemin are the worst free agent signings of all time.
Retaining Wilson as coach is the worst management move of all time.
Obviously, Burke is the worst GM of all time.
Just by reading TERB I can see we must have at least 2 dozen members who are more qualified to run the team.
Gilmour only played for the Leafs for abour 5 years these 2 guys could play for 15 years in Boston. To answer my own question we'll probably have to wait 15 years to know but it was certainly a terrible decision by Burke
Kessel is playing on a team with no number one centre. Bozak is a number 3 centre at best. We'll have to wait 5-10 years to see who got the better deal. If I was Leafs GM, I would pull the trigger and trade Kaberle, Komisarek, a prospect like Jerry D'Amigo and 2012 first round pick to Dallas for Brad Richards. Leafs need a number one centre.
I think that's a little steep for Richards...
He's having a great year but he's 30...
Hopefully we can get him as a Free Agent at the end of year for nothing (though Dallas, New York Rangers and Tampa are rumoured to be his top choices)...
Too bad Tomas Fleischmann got traded to Colorado...I think he would have been a very useful addition to the Leafs.... Washington traded him for Defenseman Scott Hannan....
He's no Richards but he's definitely better than Bozak...
Leafs haters will agree on the Kessel trade but the worst trade ever still has to be Pittsburg trading Alex Stojanov to Vancouver for Markus Naslund. Great for Vancouver though
The Kessel trade is definitely not the worst trade in history...though definitely not the best either...If it was Kessel for one first round draft pick then it would have been a decent trade (maybe even a great one)...two first round draft picks is pretty painful because of how the Leafs are playing right now...
Are people forgetting that Burke made a great trade in getting Phaneuf, Aulie and Sjostrom for Stajan, White, Hagman and Mayers...
He also got rid of Toskala and Blake....
He signed Clarke MacArther...and Colby Armstrong...
Lots of Ups and Downs with Burke thats for sure....
Are people forgetting that Burke made a great trade in getting Phaneuf, Aulie and Sjostrom for Stajan, White, Hagman and Mayers...
He also got rid of Toskala and Blake....
He signed Clarke MacArther...and Colby Armstrong...
Lots of Ups and Downs with Burke thats for sure....
From all the posts I read its quite obvious you really don't know much about Hockey...
In fact I'm pretty sure you're mentally handicapped.....
Yes Burke did make a good signing with Clarke MacArther. He should have gottten Andrew Ladd and Justin "Buff" (can't spell his name) from Chicago. Kris Versteeg is starting to come around.
Richards at 30 is not too old, I think he still have 4-5 years in him to play at the top of his game. How old is Kaberle? Sundin Played until he was in late 30's. Anyways, Komisarek was just to dump salary to make cap room to sign Richards.
Ok back to the worst trade in NHL history. I would say the Leafs trading their number 1 pick to NJ for Tom Kurvers. That number 1 pick turned out to be Scott Niedermayer.
Richards is good, but he ain't no spring chicken and is looking to score a mega contract. The only objective now is to marginalize that pick that's going to Boston. As for the future, you can take it to the bank that the Leafs will not be trading their 1st Rounders for the next decade. Despite what he says publicly, this deal eats at Burke daily and everyone in the league knows the Leafs are supremely fucked.
Forgot to mention Versteeg...
Who knew Ladd was gonna do so well Atlanta? I think Versteeg and Ladd were pretty much considered equal in talent/skill level before the start of the season....I think Ladd just found some great chemistry in Atlanta and is racking up career points...
Even Byfuglien was expected to do so well...I would have loved to see Buff come to Toronto but I think Atlanta had more to offer to Chicago (a couple of draft picks to Chicago - Atlanta recieved for the Kovalchuk deal)...and the multiplayer deal was pretty complicated because of salary cap issues...
I don't think that's true...
The Leafs are currently in a bad position and this season is most likely a write off....but I don't they are supremely fucked....they have some limited options but they still are going in the right direction (they're young and they got some talent) and a couple of smart moves could turn this team around....
Its all up to Burke....he could fuck this team up like Ferguson Junior or he could pull some tactical moves and make this team a competitor (and hopefully a contender) ..
I'll agree with you that it's all on Burke now. For a egomaniac like him, he'll do whatever he can to make sure the Kessel disaster does not define his tenure as Leafs GM.
And I wish people would stop pointing out how young they are. Being young and having young talent are two different things. Kadri this, Kadri that, we need to stop hearing that name for awhile.
Bottomline why bad teams remain bad teams is because they never get it........................ DO NOT TRADE YOUR HIGH DRAFT PICKS AWAY
Just how would you trade Tomas Kaberle and Mike Komisarek ?
Kaberle has a no-trade contract and has not asked to be moved.
Mike Komisarek has a no movement/modified no trade contract as well.
B.B. has said repeatedly that he will not ask a player to waive that right.
Brad Richards is an UFA at the end of this season.
Ignoring the fact that the 2 players I mentioned above cannot be traded without their request, you want to also include a prospect, and another 1st round draft pick in exchange for a half season of Brad Richards.
You're not that bright, are you ?
Ironic - coming from someone who states that trading for a vastly overpaid defenceman in the cap era, when your roster is already imbalanced, is a great trade.
