Is seeing SPs actually more cost-effective than dating in Toronto?

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Two different worlds - if you just want sex go with Escorts. There are always arrangements to be made. Some will see you privately and cut out the agency. Then there are women looking for sugar daddies. You can cap your spend and see them frequently. But if you want a real heart connected relationship with a woman who respects and a life partner who loves sex - spend some time dating. There are hot successful women who are not looking for your wallet. If they are, they are the wrong match. Enjoy life
 
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Don Draper

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I was reading this article here: https://dailyhive.com/toronto/cost-date-night-toronto and it states that



Which I thought was interesting because from my estimation, the average cost of seeing an escort in 2021 for 30 minutes would be $160 with the range being $150 - $250 and the average cost of seeing an escort for 1 hour would be $300 with the range being $250 - $400 which is all more than the average cost of a romantic night in Toronto according the to article. I have very limited expierence in wine and dining women so I am asking men who has dating expierence if dating is in fact more cost-effective than seeing SPs. If so, I would to give dating another shot as an attempt to save money and meet beautiful women at the same time.
It all depends on what YOU like to do.

Theatre?

Symphony?

Films?

Concerts?

Sporting events (Jays, TFC, Raptors)?

Foodie events?

Outdoor activities (Hiking, skiing, et al)

You see, depending on your likes, that's the kind of woman you'll likely hook up with considering common interests.
Find these social groups of common interests and this is where you'll meet people.

The first dates will always be somewhat formal but eventually you're just comfortable in each other's company.
"Grand events" are usually once a month.

Just a normal "date night" (dinner at a Mom & Pop Italian restaurant, for example) and a movie will be around $150.


She then sleeps over on a Friday or Saturday night and it's a good night for both of you.

Civilian sex is always better anyway.
 

chrispalen

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From our animal instinct, men want variety, lot of it. SPs provide easy and quick access to variety, no need to go thru all the wine and dine routine.


CP
 

silentkisser

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I would think it could be cheaper depending on what you want from the date. If you're just looking to get your dick wet by a hot chick, seeing an SP is the way to go. If you're looking for an actual relationship, one that could lead to commitments and what not, then dating is the only way. Let's face it, SPs are friendly and pretend to love sucking your dick because you pay them. They are providing a service, a fantasy, and experience. Now, sure, there is a chance you might hit it off with her, and it develops into something more serious. But remember, the movie Pretty Woman was fiction, and very unlikely to be recreated in real life...Unless you look like Richard Gere and are a multi-millionaire...

Dating can be a major hassle. You need to find someone who wants to spend time with you, show interest in them, and pay for dinner and other things. But, you if things progress, you might find someone you can't live without. Someone who has sex with you because they actually care about you, someone who will want to give you pleasure, and expects it in return. A true partner. This obviously costs more in time and money, but it can be an investment worth its weight in gold.
 

Itssean2020

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I agree with some of the other posters there are too many variables and it depends on the end goal. If the end goal is just sex then hell yea SP hands down. If its datingit gets more fuzzy.

The OP's looking for if dating is cheaper and at first glance they seem close to me. But I would ask the OP to consider the money is one thing, but what is your time worth? How much time do you to spend courting her, texting, video calls, dates, fighting, planning etc etc the list goes on. Multiply by how many woman you are trying to date at the same time ;)
When I was younger I could spend more time on such activities and it was even fun back then, now that I'm older my time is worth more and I prefer to see good SP's at least I know what I'm getting after I pay for dinner :)

So it really depends what's your time worth and if your intent is love, then what price do you put on finding the love of your life?
 

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Hopefully with my face in a pussy
Two phrases come to mind. The first is from my long-gone youth; the only difference between free sex and sex you pay for is that free sex is cheaper. You might wine and dine a woman for a long time before sex enters the picture. With the money you spend on half a dozen dates you could have had sex half a dozen times.

The other is from Charlies Sheen: "I don't pay them for sex, I pay them to leave'" In other words, no commitments.
 
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... free sex is cheaper. You might wine and dine a woman for a long time before sex enters the picture.
on a semi related note, I mostly do p4p of sorts and half of the time sex is not great enough to repeat. I wonder what's the rate of success for civilians? Must suck to spend time on bedding a woman only to find out she is not worth a repeat
 
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oral.com

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There is nothing hotter than dating someone who is just as attracted to you as you are to them.
 

oral.com

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on a semi related note, I mostly do p4p of sorts and half of the time sex is not great enough to repeat. I wonder what's the rate of success for civilians? Must suck to spend time on bedding a woman only to find out she is not worth a repeat
Until you find a civvy who is, and they are out there!
If we are talking about dating just for sex, and I have done that, yes I think its worth it. Who knows it may just turn into a relationship, weird as it seems.
 

jalimon

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this thread is completely bogus.

We pay escort for them to leave.

When you are really in love you don't count.

Completely different thing.
 

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I guess I've been spoiled. The last [and sadly first] GF payed her own way, going out to eat, no more than 25 or 30 bucks each, a movie 12 bucks. The one hour drive to get there was worse.

If you are a panty dropper, it would be cheaper or even free to get laid in the civie world.
If you are unfortunate in one way or another, it's bound to be much more affordable to pay for it. Dates that go nowhere because she isn't that into you, or you do the slightest thing she doesn't like. Girls you because you are not all that decide that they want to "get to know you better" where if you were hot you would be plowing her fields like a farmer that night.
Then you get the time invested. You gotta find the girl which takes more time if you are unfortunate. Then there is the time on the date which again might not pan out at all.

Dating only makes sense if you actually want to spend time with the girl doing stuff you would do anyway and if she pays her own way. I don't care how charming she is, if you have to pay her way, that is a slap in the face in terms of how she sees you, this isn't the 50's any more. But in terms of coitus only... Nayh.

Also as you get older... paying for it is better than granny fanny. Save money on the ice pick to chip away at the crust.
 

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I guess I've been spoiled. The last [and sadly first] GF payed her own way, going out to eat, no more than 25 or 30 bucks each, a movie 12 bucks. The one hour drive to get there was worse.

If you are a panty dropper, it would be cheaper or even free to get laid in the civie world.
If you are unfortunate in one way or another, it's bound to be much more affordable to pay for it. Dates that go nowhere because she isn't that into you, or you do the slightest thing she doesn't like. Girls you because you are not all that decide that they want to "get to know you better" where if you were hot you would be plowing her fields like a farmer that night.
Then you get the time invested. You gotta find the girl which takes more time if you are unfortunate. Then there is the time on the date which again might not pan out at all.

Dating only makes sense if you actually want to spend time with the girl doing stuff you would do anyway and if she pays her own way. I don't care how charming she is, if you have to pay her way, that is a slap in the face in terms of how she sees you, this isn't the 50's any more. But in terms of coitus only... Nayh.

Also as you get older... paying for it is better than granny fanny. Save money on the ice pick to chip away at the crust.
agreed. as a younger man I was attracted to older women. now as a man in his 40s when I look at a woman I see age, lifestyle and relationships that have transformed into the woman she has become now.

youth, vitality, beauty, naivety, openness, cooperation, softness and a lack of mileage are the thing I find attractive in a girl. despite not having a lot of life experience I do appreciate this lack as an opportunity to actually build something new without the history of an older woman.
 

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It depends on what stage your life is in right now. When I was in a university, dating girls in the U. was free with plenty of sex in the dorm rooms LOL. We all had meal plans in the U. so we hardly ever ate out in the restaurants.

When I am a workhorse in the corporate world, women expect more from me. Taking them out to restaurants, some weekend trips, few foreign trips, gifts, allowance money and etc. So it can be very expensive over the years by dating women as grown up man.

I think that if I would go back to "jerk off" myself frequently as when I was a teenager, then that's the cheapest self-service fast food type of restaurant. LOL
 
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