Is it me or has the offering in the region gone down the tube

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Reminds me of the movie Secret Games from 1992 where the madam of a $1000 an hour incall escort agency said that the Afternoon Demitasse caters to clients who have worked for years to build up their fortunes and gave up the pleasures of lovemaking until now. It’s been going on for decades before and after.
 

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The MA scene is severely misunderstood by the SP guys. Part of that is deliberate due to rules restricting what can or cannot actually be said about them on these forums.
The MA scene seems to be like a cracker jack box to a lot of us, there's no way of knowing what the actual prize is until you get there.
 
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Which is not that different from the SP scene, if you think about it. You get some good SP's and some useless ones. The only thing preventing you from getting exactly what you want in the MA world that you get in the SP world is your lack of experience in the MA world. The only way to get experience in the MA world is to experience the MA world. Things are done slightly differently in the MA world, sure, but once you learn those differences, you will know exactly how to navigate your way through it.
Very true, you never know how it'll go with an unknown in the SP world but you can easily budget the event and I think that's the biggest difference, knowing what to bring in order to get the play value you hope to get. Also, 140 is a lot different than 180 plus for a working stiff, that 40 bucks is often gas money for your budget.
 

Alison_xox

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Bah ... It’s the oldest job in the world and it will always be Sp and Ma out there.
Once you find your niche market , you are stable.
Its prices for every budget , services for every taste and it goes up and down like everything else. You get what you pay for ;)

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As someone who hobbied when there were actual agencies in this city, it was ten thousand times more convenient for the customer. You could see who all was on that night by looking at the agency posting, call any night, and almost every single time have a great experience for about 20 bucks more than what the going independent rate was. It was a sure thing. Now there are no agencies because "we arent Toronto or Montreal", even though we had them before and werent Toronto or Montreal. Yes, there were expensive options back then too, but you could have a sure thing, from a known entity, for 140hh. People can charge what they want and run any sort of enterprise they chose, but I do miss the agency days and I'm one of those who are less likely to spend without the "safety" and ease of selection that came with an agency.
 
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Alison_xox

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If it ever come legal to have an agency , I would gladly open one. I wish I could have an agency offering good working conditions for providers and peace of mind for clients.

As a provider in the industry for a long time , I understand the struggle of being indy and I also understand clients needs. I wish I could open an agency where the girls could keep their money like a non lucrative organisation. I have no idea how I would do that , but I am sure between girls we could find a way.

Right now the law is simply made in a way that it makes it illegal to operate an agency , but if only the gouv could evolve and work with us instead of against us.

Oh well ... It doesn’t cost anything to dream ;)
 

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The law state that if you profit from someone offering sexual activity you can be charged with criminal offence and go to jail.
Spas are supposed to have a body rub licence.
The ones that doesn’t are in the grey zone and are renting the facilities. An agency would not have facilities to rent.

The laws are made so they’re all contestable , but bottom line is , it would be lawyers, a lot of $$$ and a shit show to run because of how laws are made. I am not into drama so I will wait for the law to evolve. If it ever does.
 

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The implication here is that these people aren’t working for their salary but are squandering tax payer dollars on high priced providers.

I’m willing to wager that if you are earning a six figure salary, you probably had to work hard at one point or another to get there.

I am thankful for these people because they attract the out of town ladies and keep the existing ones in business. Albeit a lot less lately.
if they take time off, if usually because they have it in their bank. I don't know
The law state that if you profit from someone offering sexual activity you can be charged with criminal offence and go to jail.
Spas are supposed to have a body rub licence.
The ones that doesn’t are in the grey zone and are renting the facilities. An agency would not have facilities to rent.

The laws are made so they’re all contestable , but bottom line is , it would be lawyers, a lot of $$$ and a shit show to run because of how laws are made. I am not into drama so I will wait for the law to evolve. If it ever does.
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So why do they exist in Mtl and Toronto, some of them of long standing. The law doesn't seem to prevent them from operating in what is obvious. So how do they do it without being harassed or charged by the authorities and why should it be any different here?....
 

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The law state that if you profit from someone offering sexual activity you can be charged with criminal offence and go to jail.
Spas are supposed to have a body rub licence.
The ones that doesn’t are in the grey zone and are renting the facilities. An agency would not have facilities to rent.

The laws are made so they’re all contestable , but bottom line is , it would be lawyers, a lot of $$$ and a shit show to run because of how laws are made. I am not into drama so I will wait for the law to evolve. If it ever does.
That doesn't make any sense. If the law makes it forbidden to operate an agency then why is there dozens of agencies operating between Toronto and Montreal and why can't Ottawa have a single agency. Are the laws in Ottawa different than MTL and Toronto? I don't think so.
 
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Alison_xox

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Its not because they exist that they’re legal.
If I ever start something , I want it to be fully legal.
Existing in the grey zone would stress me.
I was thinking of opening one years ago and after talking with lawyers, I changed my mind.

It’s too risky and the major goal would be to offer peace of mind, security and good working conditions. If I can’t offer that, there’s no point.

Hopefully, the gouv will eventually understand that making it legal would not only create security and better conditions , but also low criminality rates.

It’s so stupid that you need to walk on eggs just to satisfy a very basic and natural need.
 

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If it ever come legal to have an agency , I would gladly open one. I wish I could have an agency offering good working conditions for providers and peace of mind for clients.

As a provider in the industry for a long time , I understand the struggle of being indy and I also understand clients needs. I wish I could open an agency where the girls could keep their money like a non lucrative organisation. I have no idea how I would do that , but I am sure between girls we could find a way.

Right now the law is simply made in a way that it makes it illegal to operate an agency , but if only the gouv could evolve and work with us instead of against us.

Oh well ... It doesn’t cost anything to dream ;)
And yet there are how many agencies in Toronto and Montreal?
 

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The thing is that It’s illegal for you guys to pay for sexual services and it’s also illegal to profit from someone offering sexual services. BUT .. It’s legal for provider to charge for sexual services if we don’t solicitate , but we are advertising everyday ...
Wtf ?!
It makes absolutely no sense.
 

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That doesn't make any sense. If the law makes it forbidden to operate an agency then why is there dozens of agencies operating between Toronto and Montreal and why can't Ottawa have a single agency. Are the laws in Ottawa different than MTL and Toronto? I don't think so.
The problem here in Ottawa is that there are only so many people in a city who want to get into that particular type of business, and the one's here who do, have chosen to operate spas rather than agencies.
 

Alison_xox

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And yet there are how many agencies in Toronto and Montreal?
I know.
Happy grey zone.
They’re taking a risk that I am not willing to take.

If you take a look at the laws or talk to a lawyer you’ll be very surprised of what consequences they could face.
 

westcityside

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I know.
Happy grey zone.
They’re taking a risk that I am not willing to take.

If you take a look at the laws or talk to a lawyer you’ll be very surprised of what consequences they could face.
Doesnt seem to bother the people in Montreal or Toronto, they must know they arent going to get charged.
 

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Its not because they exist that they’re legal.
If I ever start something , I want it to be fully legal.
Existing in the grey zone would stress me.
I was thinking of opening one years ago and after talking with lawyers, I changed my mind.

It’s too risky and the major goal would be to offer peace of mind, security and good working conditions. If I can’t offer that, there’s no point.

Hopefully, the gouv will eventually understand that making it legal would not only create security and better conditions , but also low criminality rates.

It’s so stupid that you need to walk on eggs just to satisfy a very basic and natural need.
Probably starts with canvassing politicians. No one thought that pot would be legal 10 or 15 years ago.
 
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