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Is Immigration a Benefit for White Canadians?

onomatopoeia

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I believe some demographers put our baby boom ending in 1966. ... I was born in 1965. A shit time to born male. ...
I see a difference between the early boomers, (1946-52), the middle group, (1953-59), and those born in the 1960's.

1940's/ 50's boomers are notorious for treating anyone younger than themselves as inferior, especially within families. 1960's boomers were often the younger brothers and sisters in those families.

I was born in 1961, and I'm the youngest in my family. I have really no common interests with my 1950's-born siblings, then or now.

If the parents weren't children or teens during the 1930's depression, it's less likely that they forced their kids to eat squash or turnip, (which all the kids in my family hated), 'in case someone served that when you're a guest in their house'.

Like a lot of kids, we would palm the turnip, and feed it to the dog under the table. I don't think there's a worse smell on Earth than a dog's turnip fart. Ours would literally run away from the smell of his own fart. I know, it's hard to imagine a smell that's offensive to a dog's nose. Dog turnip farts are THAT ripe.
 

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I see a difference between the early boomers, (1946-52), the middle group, (1953-59), and those born in the 1960's.

1940's/ 50's boomers are notorious for treating anyone younger than themselves as inferior, especially within families. 1960's boomers were often the younger brothers and sisters in those families.

I was born in 1961, and I'm the youngest in my family. I have really no common interests with my 1950's-born siblings, then or now.

If the parents weren't children or teens during the 1930's depression, it's less likely that they forced their kids to eat squash or turnip, (which all the kids in my family hated), 'in case someone served that when you're a guest in their house'.

Like a lot of kids, we would palm the turnip, and feed it to the dog under the table. I don't think there's a worse smell on Earth than a dog's turnip fart. Ours would literally run away from the smell of his own fart. I know, it's hard to imagine a smell that's offensive to a dog's nose. Dog turnip farts are THAT ripe.
Being born in 1961, I believe you would be a part of the original GenX(David Foot, Douglas Coupland), before the age range got totally mangled. The boom peaked in the late 50s, early 60s.
Also being the youngest, it was hard to relate. For example, my oldest sister turns 75 this month. My brother, 7 years older, was into Jethro Tull and Steely Dan, when I was a kid. That group had a lot of guys on drugs in that brief period around the mid 1970s when Canadians took our standard of living for granted.
 
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The Canada Pension Plan is, and has always been, a collective fund, rather than a collection of individual plans, (where one's future benefits would be directly linked to one's total contributions, plus investment income, paid as a life annuity). The method by which CPP is funded is not relevant in my post. The simplified model of the pyramid base paying benefits for the pyramid peak has essentially remained unchanged. This is true for every defined benefit plan.

Defined benefit plans have funding problems in the following situations:

a) The number of recipients increases, but the number of contributors decreases, (this is true in Canada, because of the size of the Baby Boomer generation, as compared to the generations which followed it).
The demographics of the baby boom and bust is exactly why the changes were made to the CPP in the 90's. The CPP isn't relying on increasing immigration to handle the baby boomer demographic shift.
 

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Being born in 1961, I believe you would be a part of the original GenX(David Foot, Douglas Coupland), before the age range got totally mangled. The boom peaked in the late 50s, early 60s.
Also being the youngest, it was hard to relate. For example, my oldest sister turns 75 this month. My brother, 7 years older, was into Jethro Tull and Steely Dan, when I was a kid. That group had a lot of guys on drugs in that brief period around the mid 1970s when Canadians took our standard of living for granted.
I 'self identify' as a GenX elder, as opposed to a baby baby boomer.

I also didn't live with my parents, (except in the summer), for more than a few months total after age 16 1/2. I was a high school graduate, (grade 11 in Quebec), and I was in school or working after that.

I have an older sister who's 73. She has this delusion that the family is a dynasty whereby she is now 'in charge' because the parents are dead. There's nothing to be in charge of, because we all live hundreds of miles apart. There are other reasons that I won't go into that help explain why I'm completely estranged from the lot of them.
 
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The demographics of the baby boom and bust is exactly why the changes were made to the CPP in the 90's. The CPP isn't relying on increasing immigration to handle the baby boomer demographic shift.
CPP assumed an overly optimistic rate of live births in Canada to provide its future funding. Immigration priorities since 1967 have changed to focus on non-Europeans because other ethnic groups tend to have larger families. These changes were directly related to the drop in birth rate among women already living in Canada. Benefits introduced by Lester B. Pearson's Liberal Government in the 1960's required many young Canadians, as opposed to just more people. It isn't the working immigrants who are essential to the equation, it's their children.
 

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Immigration priorities since 1967 have changed to focus on non-Europeans because other ethnic groups tend to have larger families.
I gotta ask for a source on this. The immigration waves up to about the last 20 years have been a lot of chinese and eastern european immigrants. The immigration system favoured the educated, which i think tend to be like educated canadian born women and not have large families.

For example, this paper below works out that immigrant birth rates are suppressed for a number of years after arrival, and only a few places of origin end up higher than native born canadians. Asian immigrants tend to have lower fertility rates than native born canadians, for example, and about the same as immigrants from the US or Europe.

 
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