Exactly my point. You choose to conspiratorially blame a bunch of American Jews who support Israel's existence for manipulating the President's policy. Protocols it is.
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Exactly my point. You choose to conspiratorially blame a bunch of American Jews who support Israel's existence for manipulating the President's policy. Protocols it is.
Once again you want to impose a solution on the Palestinians that they detest.
And once again, instead of criticizing Hamas and Fatah terrorists or the 46% Palestinians who support terrorism, you just want to criticize Israel. What a surprise.
Do you want to poll them on how much they support the present apartheid, occupation?
And once again, you continue to note the effects of the occupation in the levels of anger, but refuse to accept that the occupation and apartheid policies are the causes.
You could work towards fixing it by working for equal rights or a legit Palestinian state.
Instead you just try to demonize an entire people.
Exactly my point. You choose to conspiratorially blame a bunch of American Jews who support Israel's existence for manipulating the President's policy. Protocols it is.
No, as you stated, I'm just blaming a bunch of Americans.
Or are you claiming that AIPAC only represents the Jewish people and not 'Israeli Arabs' as well?
'Cuz that sounds like apartheid again.
Once again you want to impose a solution on the Palestinians that they detest.
And once again, instead of criticizing Hamas and Fatah terrorists or the 46% Palestinians who support terrorism, you just want to criticize Israel. What a surprise.
Why does Israel block the Palis aspirations of statehood? After all, a proper Pali state is an entity they can actually negotiate with
Why does Israel block the Palis aspirations of statehood? After all, a proper Pali state is an entity they can actually negotiate with
They don't. It has been the official Israeli position for decades. the issue is Hamas and much of Fatah object to Palestinian statehood if it means having to accept Israel existing.
No, as you stated, I'm just blaming a bunch of Americans....
Who are mainly Jewish. Your belief that a bunch of Jews controls the President's policy is straight out of Nazi and Tsarist propaganda.
Do you want to poll them on?....
So you think you know better than them. They detest the idea of living equally with Jews in a one state peace. Sadly you oppose the strong Palestinian preference for their own state but don't oppose the 46% of Palestinians who support attacks on Israeli civilians.
p.s. Most Palestinians refer to the 'occupation' as starting in 1948.
And you are a despicable liar in your attempts to smear people who disagree with you.
Who are mainly Jewish. Your belief that a bunch of Jews controls the President's policy is straight out of Nazi and Tsarist propaganda.
Again, you are claiming that AIPAC is all Jewish and lobby only for Jewish interests, which makes Israel sound like its an apartheid country.
Also, claiming that I'm talking about some Nazi propaganda when I quote an Israeli paper's article is really, really funny.
Here's the source again.
http://www.jpost.com/American-Polit...IPAC-works-to-reshape-Iran-deal-debate-507069
So you think you know better than them. They detest the idea of living equally with Jews in a one state peace. Sadly you oppose the strong Palestinian preference for their own state but don't oppose the 46% of Palestinians who support attacks on Israeli civilians.
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Most Palestinians, having lived under 50 years of illegal occupation and apartheid, appear to not trust Israelis any more.
Big surprise.
They also poll saying that they don't think the two state solution is viable anymore.
That just leaves the one state solution, despite being supported by about 50%, being the only solution left.
Except for you, you appear to prefer apartheid.
Most Palestinians, ....
...have been taught they can destroy Israel/the Jewish presence for the past 100 years.
How do you think Israelis feel after suffering terrorism from Palestinians/Arabs since 50 years before Israel occupied the West Bank?
And that's why a two state peace is the only sensible one (not the plan you want to force the Palestinians into). And it is too bad that Hamas and Fatah's armed wing refuse to accept the concept of Israel continuing top exist.
Again, ...
Sorry but you double-talk will distract from your belief in a Jewish conspiracy controlling the US.
They don't. It has been the official Israeli position for decades. the issue is Hamas and much of Fatah object to Palestinian statehood if it means having to accept Israel existing.
Of course they do Israel was apoplectic over their pursuit of UN status upgrades. They even opposed their joining of Interpol....
Of course they do Israel was apoplectic over their pursuit of UN status upgrades. They even opposed their joining of Interpol....
Because it is avoidance of actual peace talks. There is still the issue of Hamas and Fatah's armed wing being terrorist entities that are opposed to any peace with Israel.
...have been taught they can destroy Israel/the Jewish presence for the past 100 years.
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That sounds like blanket racism.
Palestinians presently support non-violent means more then violence, which means you are just spouting racist crap.
52% support and 47% oppose the two-state solution
But 57% think the two-state solution is no longer practical.
71% support joining more international organizations, 67% support popular non-violent resistance, 45% support a return to an armed intifada, and 47% support the dissolution of the PA.
http://www.pcpsr.org/en/node/711
Sorry but you double-talk will distract from your belief in a Jewish conspiracy controlling the US.
This conspiracy claim is your own.
All I've done is posted an article written in Israel about AIPAC's position on Iran.
http://www.jpost.com/American-Polit...IPAC-works-to-reshape-Iran-deal-debate-507069
There is no conspiracy, that is all public lobbying.
Yes it is blanket racism that the Palestinian view of Israel being illegitimate because it is predominantly Jewish.That sounds like blanket racism.
Hamas' official view is the elimination of Israel.
The PA routinely publishes maps without Israel and refers to Israeli cities as Palestinian (including in school books).
Both groups refer to Israel cities as occupied.
The war in 1948 occurred only because Arab leadership wanted Israel destroyed and the Jewish presence removed.
The first Palestinian terrorism was incited by their leadership's lies of Jews trying to destroy mosques and resulted in attacks on pre-zionist Jews.
Palestinians presently support non-violent means more then violence, which means you are just spouting racist crap.
Only you would claim it is racist to point out that Palestinian polling has 46% support for attacks on Israeli civilians, that Hamas endorse terrorism, and Fatah celebrates it. But sure. Make more excuses to avoid criticizing the negative aspects of Palestinian society.
This conspiracy claim is your own.
All I've done is posted an article written in Israel about AIPAC's position on Iran.
http://www.jpost.com/American-Polit...IPAC-works-to-reshape-Iran-deal-debate-507069
There is no conspiracy, that is all public lobbying.
Actually you said clearly that AIPAC is manipulating the government. Pure Protocols style claims from you.
More entertaining is the way that AIPAC, who appears to be behind trying to 'decertify' Iran, is playing Trump for a fool.
http://www.jpost.com/American-Polit...IPAC-works-to-reshape-Iran-deal-debate-507069
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Yes it is blanket racism that the Palestinian view of Israel being illegitimate because it is predominantly Jewish.
Hamas' official view is the elimination of Israel.
Again, you don't complain about the Likud charter calling for Israel to take all the land.
Why?
Actually you said clearly that AIPAC is manipulating the government. Pure Protocols style claims from you.
So now you think that the Jerusalem Post is posting 'protocols of zion' type propaganda?
Or do you really think even just talking about AIPAC's public lobbying is anti-semitic?
I'm unclear of why you think a public lobbying group's influence, that you called 'a bunch of Americans', becomes conspiracy if you talk about it being successful with its campaigns.
Again, you don't complain about the Likud charter calling for Israel to take all the land.
Why?
I have and I will. It doesn't help peace. If their party conducted terror attacks on civilians to achieve their aims then they would be on Canada's terror list along with Hamas and Fatah's armed wing.
Thankfully though, Israel is a democracy and their official stance is support for a two state peace based on the 1967 lines with land swaps.
