Iran nukes

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Palestinians are well within their rights to use violence against those illegally occupying their lands....
And more bullshit justification for terrorism as long as Israeli Jews are the target. And just as a reminder, you have repeatedly claimed that Israelis in the West Bank aren't civilians.

For someone who pretends to be anti-war, it is sad that you are promoting violence instead of criticizing Palestinian factions like Hamas and Fatahs armed wing for refusing even the concept of permanent peace.
 

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You really don't understand how centrifuges work...increasing purity of uranium is a stepped process. You keep reprocessing the output until you reach the desired enrichment level. The newer ones can do it faster that is all....
Exactly the problem. Iran could easily enrich enough Uranium to reactor grade with just a couple hundred old centrifuges even if they ever build more commercial reactors.
 

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As part of the deal Iran handed almost all its highly enriched uranium to Russia. This was completed in Dec 2015 :

https://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/29/...-stockpile-of-enriched-uranium-to-russia.html

today they are only allowed to stockpile 600KG of nuclear fuel. So what you say is simply not correct and I would ask that you post a source of this info.
Do you know how long 600 kg of Uranium will last? A typical reactor uses slightly over 1 kg per year so they don't need enrichment for a long, long time. By the time all that U-235 was used, we will be looking at fission reactors as antiquated technology.
 

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Exactly the problem. Iran could easily enrich enough Uranium to reactor grade with just a couple hundred old centrifuges even if they ever build more commercial reactors.
Sure they can, but it will take quite a long time. They have produced enriched uranium before so stripping them of that knowledge is not really possible. Lots of countries can produce highly enriched uranium today.
 

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You have an interesting definition of lies. But thank you for pointing out that Iran has 277 years worth of fuel, not 193.
According to the doc you linked to, its 88 kg of fuel, not 300 kg as you claimed.
You were caught lying about the numbers.
 

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According to the doc you linked to, its 88 kg of fuel, not 300 kg as you claimed.
You were caught lying about the numbers.
Your accusations of lying are insane.

They have 88kg in final form and the equivalent of 202 kg in gaseous form that has already been through the centrifuges. That means they already have 290 kg worth of enriched uranium.
 

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Yes, raw fuel including the non-reactive isotopes. The number 290 kg is of actual fissile material.

Annual fissile material consumption of this reactor is about 1 005 kg.
http://www.nuclear-power.net/nuclea...uel/fuel-consumption-of-conventional-reactor/
You don't understand this page either.
Have you been using MovieFan's sources again?

You're confusing mass effect with fissile material consumption.
1kg of fissile matter will 'disappear' or be consumed during one years operation.
But 1,000 kg of fissile material will be consumed as fuel during one years operation.

Read the article slowly, read the whole page, google mass effect and then apologize to myself, nottyboi and the board for spreading propaganda that you didn't confirm wasn't bullshit.
 

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Your accusations of lying are insane.

They have 88kg in final form and the equivalent of 202 kg in gaseous form that has already been through the centrifuges. That means they already have 290 kg worth of enriched uranium.
No, they only have 88 kg of processed uranium not the 88+202, or 290 kg that you claim.
The International Atomic Energy Agency said that Iran’s stockpile of low-enriched uranium is 88.4kg (about 195lb), less than a third of the maximum allowed under the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA), the official name of the 2015 agreement. Under the agreement, Iran accepted limits on its nuclear programme in exchange for sanctions relief. The current stockpile is just over 1% of the pre-agreement level.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/aug/31/iran-nuclear-deal-trump-un
 

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Yes, raw fuel including the non-reactive isotopes. The number 290 kg is of actual fissile material.

Annual fissile material consumption of this reactor is about 1 005 kg.
http://www.nuclear-power.net/nuclea...uel/fuel-consumption-of-conventional-reactor/
Well that is quite a bit more then the 1kg you originally said. 100,500 percent more to be exact. Iran is allowed to only stockpile 300KG or 600lbs so it can only enrich uranium to just under 4% to fuel its reactors.
 

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Your accusations of lying are insane.

They have 88kg in final form and the equivalent of 202 kg in gaseous form that has already been through the centrifuges. That means they already have 290 kg worth of enriched uranium.
You are confusing enriched, with HIGHLY enriched. These are very different cats. They will have more then 300kg , fuel in their reactors is not considered "stockpile" as it has entered the fuel cycle and cannot be further processed. 300kg of 4 % fuel can only yield about 8-11kg of HE uranium after a long, long process.
 

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You are confusing enriched, with HIGHLY enriched. These are very different cats. They will have more then 300kg , fuel in their reactors is not considered "stockpile" as it has entered the fuel cycle and cannot be further processed. 300kg of 4 % fuel can only yield about 8-11kg of HE uranium after a long, long process.
Typical basketcase nonsense, he accused Iran of having a 300 years supply of uranium but now its looking more like less then a months worth, with 88kg for 1,000 kg annual use.
 

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I don't get why BC has to come here and birch about Iran. Iran hasn't invaded another country for over 300 years. And israel is assassinating a lot of the nuclear scientists in Iran. Now that's called restraint
 

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You are confusing enriched, with HIGHLY enriched. ....
Not at all. Iran claims that they need 25,000 centrifuges to power enrich fuel for their commercial reactor. That's just nonsense. A couple hundred centrifuges would be more than enough to maintain a stockpile of 3.76% enriched fuel. Even better they can use a CANDU style reactor that works with natural or slightly enriched uranium (under 1%).

There is only one practical purpose for that many centrifuges.
 

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I don't get why BC has to come here and birch about Iran. Iran hasn't invaded another country for over 300 years. And israel is assassinating a lot of the nuclear scientists in Iran. Now that's called restraint
Yet Franky coming here to bitch about Israel is okay?

And as Franky pointed out, Iran is heavily involved in funding terrorist organization. They have suborned the government of Lebanon so that "not invading" bit is a very weak argument.
 

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Not at all. Iran claims that they need 25,000 centrifuges to power enrich fuel for their commercial reactor. That's just nonsense. A couple hundred centrifuges would be more than enough to maintain a stockpile of 3.76% enriched fuel. Even better they can use a CANDU style reactor that works with natural or slightly enriched uranium (under 1%).

There is only one practical purpose for that many centrifuges.
You should be here apologizing for lying and presenting bullshit that you read of some other 'MovieFan' quality website.

You claimed that Iran had a 300 year supply of processed uranium and so didn't need centrifuges.
The facts show that they have less then a months supply on hand of processed fuel for their reactor.

You lied.
 
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