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interesting review of Michael Moore's new movie

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Diffence is MM has a social conscience about it and wants to help others.
While those greedy ones you shill for just want to horde more, even though they admit they don't need it.


Big difference but you need a conscience to understand this grasshopper!....;)



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Whatever.........You just keep on revelling in your fantasy world.
What do you mean Willis???
Thought that's what you were doing!....:D



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Well, thats very interesting, since MM admitted to Wolf Blitzer the other night that he was part of the 1%. Guess capitalism is working pretty well for him. Guess YOU missed that one pekkkerhead. Where's that squealing noise coming from anyway???? roflmao.
Isn't the judgement of whether any thing works based on how well it does overall, not just in rare instances?

The fact that Michael Moore could go from borrowing cameras while he was on $85/week unemployment to to millionaire status says lots about his ability and nothing about capitalism. By your standard Michael Phelps being a terrific athlete would mean Americans shouldn't worry that their kids are obese.

Self-made millionaires crop up in all systems. If they're such a good thing then wouldn't we be trying to maximize their numbers instead of encouraging the already rich to accumulate way beyond their means? Wouldn't two hundred senior execs at a million apiece be better than one CEO at $200 mill?

Would anyone really say, "Heck, a million a year isn't enough of a paycheque. Think I'll just go fishin' and let the economy collapse"? Does anyone think there'd be no one to replace the guy who did? Or the economy really would collapse?

Moore's polemic is not so much on capitalism in general but on the uniquely selfish and pervertedly sociopathic form it's taken in the US. Other countries do it better, because they recognize it's only economics, not a whole social system. When you try to stretch it to be both, it's like an all-junkfood diet. Tastes good and kills you from within.
 

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Moore's polemic is not so much on capitalism in general but on the uniquely selfish and pervertedly sociopathic form it's taken in the US. Other countries do it better, because they recognize it's only economics, not a whole social system. When you try to stretch it to be both, it's like an all-junkfood diet. Tastes good and kills you from within.
I don't always agree with you... but very well put.
 

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Why does that bother you? In history it has always been the well off that have taken it upon themselves to agitate for improvements in the conditions of the poor.
Who says it bothers me? It bothers you that you can't accept MM making tens of millions in capitalism and then he bites the hand that feeds him by saying its wrong. That's a contradictory argument. Much like Bono from U2 saying he's a "spokesman for the poor", then gets millions the next day. As if he was elected by the poor to do so. Media abusers.

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Does this negate every rich person who has ever done good work?

Who says it bothers me? It bothers you that you can't accept MM making tens of millions in capitalism and then he bites the hand that feeds him by saying its wrong. That's a contradictory argument. Much like Bono from U2 saying he's a "spokesman for the poor", then gets millions the next day. As if he was elected by the poor to do so. Media abusers.

Gyaos Baltar.

Ted Kennedy for health and education, George Soros fighting neo-conservatism, MM for fighting for all the downtrodden, many examples. What is really stupid is when poor people defend capitalism. I tend to view the USA version of capitalism as immature. They do not yet seem to understand that unless everybody benefits, the system is not working well. Witness the health care debate. This debate could not even be considered in any mature society.
 

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Witness the health care debate. This debate could not even be considered in any mature society.
Exactly!
Just look at the immature who oppose Healthcare!
They act like a bunch of rich selfish, self-centered, spoiled pisspots lying and spreading false fears because they are afraid their elite lives of 'entitlement' are about to come to an end and they may actually have to work for a living....:rolleyes:



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Who says it bothers me? It bothers you that you can't accept MM making tens of millions in capitalism and then he bites the hand that feeds him by saying its wrong. That's a contradictory argument.
It does not bother me one bit, zip, nada, not at all.
 

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Second that!....;)



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Anyone who thinks helping someone decide what they want is a death panel is either an idiot or a liar, in the case of Sarah Palin who invented the term possibly both. They are opposite things because end of life counselling is YOU deciding what happens, a death panel is THE PANEL deciding, and if we can't insist both sides work from the same facts on that basic level then the news should be ended as a concept because it cannot perform it's basic function of informing the public of what is happening.

This is why conspiracy theories like 9/11 was an inside job are given such credit, because it takes no more manipulation to make that an equal argument to the truth then it does death panels.
I think you are exactly right. What has happened in several media outlets(especially CNN) is that they are attmpting to be fair and balanced by presenting idiotic views that provide political ideologues with legitimacy.. Death panels is just one example. Creationism is another. To say that a scientific explanation for phenomena should be balanced with a kind of supernatural explanation perverts the purpose of news reporting.
 

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What is it with WoodPecker and grammge and others always promoting left wing propoganda?
You call health care for everybody left wing propaganda?
 

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Why are you and your buds always parroting rightwing propaganda?
Sadly they are too mind numbed to realize that!....:rolleyes:



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