Inflation and visit frequency

[69sy]

I have basically changed from seeing SP to MA last year. The striking cost is one thing, the other reason is the screening, WTH do they think we will disclose our real identity? and YES I had been scammed even before covid, it sucks.

The MA scene was not bad comparing to the SP market in the beginning, but recently the quality of girls and service went down somehow. A hunter wouldn't go in a woods if there is no target. It is sad we might see MA is going the same trend as the agencies.

 

[Mandalorian]

One thing I’m seeing more and more is a girl will quote me for extras While being vague over whether this is a tip on top of the regular club base rate or all inclusive. It makes for awkward discussions when I need to ask specifically. Many times it’s answered with “we need to discuss this in person”, which translate to mean “once I have you here the little head will take over”. Always disappointing to find out when all’s said and done a good session will run into the $4-500 range.

 

[tom_613]

I've slowed down to almost non-existent since covid. Like 2-3 times a YEAR now. Mind you, I only see independent MA's (well, 95% of the time. I've seen a couple of FS providers just to test the waters)

The main thing keeping me from going more often isn't just the $$$, it's the service. 5, 6, 7 years ago, I'd get hits far more than misses, but I factored in the misses and was rarely disappointed. It was also much easier to swallow $100-$120 "loss". And I still got off every time, so it was never a total loss. I find it's now more an assembly-line approach for the providers. Get them in and get them out, and more often than not I'm now leaving $150-$200 shorter in the wallet and actually disappointed.

When I started into this, there was a lot of women doing this as a side hustle. So lower volume for the most part and able to charge a lower price. It wasn't their sole source of income. I've seen one lady go from $80/hr (massage and HE) to $150/hr the next year, to $180/hr currently. I mean, good for her, but it's priced me out.

I agree, at $180/hr it's easy to swallow but once it gets above $200 it's getting pricy. $200 an hour is a very good living. The girls are just as beautiful as before but the quality of service has gone down. Everything is a tip now, I had a session where there was at least 10 tipping options. Lol. Like I paid for one option but it killed the mood. I was once a weekly visitor, now I go once a month or every 6 weeks. It has priced me out of the market. The price at reception might be $180 but they'll try to get another $120 from you.

 

[tom_613]

One thing I’m seeing more and more is a girl will quote me for extras While being vague over whether this is a tip on top of the regular club base rate or all inclusive. It makes for awkward discussions when I need to ask specifically. Many times it’s answered with “we need to discuss this in person”, which translate to mean “once I have you here the little head will take over”. Always disappointing to find out when all’s said and done a good session will run into the $4-500 range.

Yes. One quoted me $300 on top of the based price. She calls the based price the door fee, I'm asked if the door fee is $200. She said no but it's not enough. So $500 total

 

[tom_613]

I message girls on twitter and ask very straightforward questions about that and most don't even reply. That tells me the answer to the question I was asking.

I agree, it ends up in the $300 range for what you got before covid, included.

Exactly. Oh well, maybe this is the way it is now. Save your money, try the Toronto agencies when you get the chance. Everything is upfront and you know what you are getting.

 

[thedude35]

Have to jump through hoops to meet some ladies.

THIS...

I'd say in the last year, I've reached out to about 20 ladies and visited 3 (a couple more than once). The rest either just don't know how to talk to people or it's hours, even a day, in between responses. And even then, the responses are short. Yet the irony is so many ladies state NOT to just text with "rates/location" questions.

I get that answering texts all day with the same questions is tedious, but it's literally part of the job. Every 10 inquiries you get, you get a client and ~$200/$300. And REPEAT clients if you're good.

 

[thedude35]

I wanted to add that the more mature (age-wise) providers I reach out to 100% have a better manner in regard to responses, and much more patience as well.

The irony is that you can almost always tell what kind of a session you'll get from somebody simply by the way they talk to you via text. Rushed, no time, delayed responses, not answering questions? You're gonna get the same treatment in person most of the time.

If they appreciate you reaching out (provided you're respectful and polite), then you'll usually get that kind of treatment in return during a session.

I no longer go any further with anyone if I don't get a response within 2 hours. That's ample time to finish your session and respond.

 

[tom_613]

There is a new agency opening here in Ottawa, so hopefully they bring the business model from Toronto. We will find out very soon

 

[Stan123]

I am thinking to stick to my regulars rather than seek new SPs. This week I visited a few spas…. The one I went to tonight, I was told the door fee was $200. Then I was told it was $150 for a fun session. So $350. Similar to the other spas I tried this week. That is a lot of money to risk on what might well be a bad encounter.

Wish I could have been smarter and went to see Zoe@Alpha. Definitely worth the $$$. And a couple times we finished up early (45 minutes into 1h session) she tried to give me a proportionate amount back. I refused. She stuffed it into my front shirt pocket. I promised she would get that money back within a week .

 

[William St]

It seems SP's are making up for lower volume by charging more per session. Frequency has got to be taking a hit with the pressure on the federal reserves.

I wish the federal reserves would ease my pressure and throw fifty thousand $$$$$ my way.

 

[William St]

I am thinking to stick to my regulars rather than seek new SPs. This week I visited a few spas…. The one I went to tonight, I was told the door fee was $200. Then I was told it was $150 for a fun session. So $350. Similar to the other spas I tried this week. That is a lot of money to risk on what might well be a bad encounter.

Wish I could have been smarter and went to see Zoe@Alpha. Definitely worth the $$$. And a couple times we finished up early (45 minutes into 1h session) she tried to give me a proportionate amount back. I refused. She stuffed it into my front shirt pocket. I promised she would get that money back within a week .

She is a kind and charming sweetheart, worth every $.

 

[Mike74]

I still see about 6 girls a month and I don't have to worry about food since I own a restaurant lol

 

[dynomyte]

I still see about 6 girls a month and I don't have to worry about food since I own a restaurant lol

I'm in the wrong industry!!!

 

[bukka]

I hobby once to three times a month. The problem for me is not necessarily the cost but the catfishing and bad service. I have a few. I tend to stick to a few regular who' Will message me when they are in town. But some of the best SP from MTL and Toronto stop coming to Ottawa smh

I haven't found SP locally. The best SP are from Toronto and mtl I have come to find out

Hopefully this year the ladies will give the service to match the prices that they are charging

 

[taylorswiftboyfriend]

At the current rates sticking to a few MAs, SPs that will provide you consistent hits and minimal misses is the play imo .... Better the devil you know than the devil you don't as someone much wiser once told me