Industry Lingo

[Dave_1]

Hey all, I’ve been partaking in this industry for a little over 2 years now and in all honesty I am still bewildered by industry lingo. It seems every few months a new word gets added, dropped, or changed.
It wouldn’t even be that bad if there was a way to contact the girls directly- many times you are dealing with an agency or booking service (spas, coworkers, etc).
anyways, I noticed recentlysome SWers advertising “hole play” or “mouthplay” in sites where… well most SWers just flatoutsays FS or BJ offered.
I remember a few months ago there was a debacle surrounding what exactly GFE meant and that was- inconclusive- imo. Is this just a continuation of that?
who comes upwith these?
Why?
(If you know the SWers that do this please don’t call them out.)

 

[Carleton Place Gent]

Please add to this list as any of you see fit.

I would like to suggest to a MOD a pinned thread be opened in a lounge or appropriate spot. I didn't see anything along those lines


AAMP = Apartment Asian Massage Parlor. Based in a residential apartment instead of a commercial storefront.
ABC = american born chinese
ABJ = american born japanese
Agency = a company that manages calls, bookings, and advertising for a group of escorts.
AMP = Asian Massage Parlor
analingus = licking anus
Asian = analingus
Asian Cowgirl = girl on top, squatting
ASP = Adult Service Provider, or alt.sex.prostitution newsgroup
ATF = all time favorite
ATM = ass to mouth = penis, toy, finger goes from ass to mouth.
attempts = trying to Fun
Aunt Flo = menstruation, period
B&S = bait and switch = person who shows up is a different one than advertised
babyback = petite, young, attractive Asian
balloons = breast implants
BB = bareback = without condom
BJ = *job = oral sex = fellatio
BBBJ = bare back * job = BJ without condom
BBBJTC = bare back * job to completion (in mouth)
BBBJTCIM = bare back * job to completion in mouth
BBBJTCNQNS = bare back * job to completion, no quit, no spit
BBBJTCWS = bare back * job to completion with swallow
BBBJWF = bare back * job with facial
BBFS = bare back sex
BBW = big beautiful woman
BCD = behind closed doors
BDSM = bondage, discipline, sado-masochism.
BF = boy friend
BFE = boy friend experience
birdwatching = BBBJTCWS
BLS = ball licking and sucking
Blue Jay = * job
blue pill = Viagra
BSB = bus stop babe
butter face = everything looks good, but her face
BTW = by the way
cash and dash = ROB who takes your money and runs
CBJ = covered * job = BJ with condom
CC Rider = full service provider costing $200 or less
CD = cross dresser
CDS = covered doggy style
CFS = covered full service = Sex with condom
CG = cowgirl = girl on top facing you
CH = Crazy Horse, SF Strip Club
CIM = cum in mouth
CL = craigslist.org
CMD = carpet matches drapes, typically a natural blonde
CMT = Certified Massage Therapist. A professional masseuse.
Cowgirl = CG = girl on top facing you
cover = condom
cruising = driving around, looking for streetwalkers
cups of coffee = releases = Funs
DATO = dining at the o = analingus
DATY = dining at the y = cunnilingus
DDP = double digit penetration, kitty and anus
Dodge = streetwalker stroll: Mission Blvd, between A St and 14th St, in Hayward, CA
Doggie = man behind girl, girl on hands and knees
donation = payment
Doubles = A threesome with two girls and you
DDE = doesn't do extras (PS only)
DDG = drop dead gorgeous
DFK = deep french kissing, open mouth with tongue
DIY = do it yourself (masturbation)
DP = double penetration, two guys on one girl
DT = deep throat, entire length of penis taken in mouth
ECR = el camino real
EOM = end of message. No text in message body.
escort = a temporary companion for hire
facial = cumming on partner's face
FBSM = full body sensual massage
fire and ice = a *job switching between hot tea and ice
FIV = finger in vagina
FKK = Frei K?rper Kultur. German brothel / nudist club.
FOB = fresh off the boat. Asian immigrant recently arrived in the US.
FOV = finger outside vagina
French = BJ
French Kiss = Kissing with tongue insertion
FS = full service = BJ + Sex
Get Brain = * job
Get Comfortable = get completely naked
GIRLFRIEND = girlfriend experience. Typically BBBJ, CFS, DFK, DATY, and MSOG
GG = Golden Gypsy. defunct, famous Berkeley massage parlor
GND = girl next door
Greek = anal sex, back door
GS = golden shower = urination play
GSM = g-spot massage
happy ending = A handjob (usually) or *job after your massage
hardwood floors = clean shaven kitty
Hat = condom
HDH = high dollar hottie
HJ = hand job = a manual / hand release
HH = half hour
HM = high mileage
HME = honeymoon experience, lapdog heaven
HWP = height and weight proportionate
hooker = escort
IMHO = in my humble opinion
interpreter = condom
Italian = penis rubbing between butt cheeks
ISO = in search of
kitty = vagina
Lapdog = person who worships providers to excess.
LDL = low dollar looker (opposite of HDH)
LE = ellie = law enforcement
LK = light kissing, closed mouth
LOS = land of smiles = Thailand
mamasan = female manager of a massage parlor
MBOT = Mitchell Brothers O'Farrell Theatre, SF Strip Club
MBR = multiple bell ringing = MSOG
MILF = mom I'd like to f-ck
Mish = missionary position, or the SF Mission District
Missionary = man on top, girl on back
mohawk = thin rectangular strip of pubic hair
MP = massage parlor
MP = multiple pops = multiple releases
MSC = Market Street Cinema, SF Strip Club
MSOG = multiple shots on goal = multiple releases
NCT = New Century Theatre, SF Strip Club
non-pro = not a professional provider
NP = no problem
NSA = no strings attached
OWO = oral without condom
OWOTC = oral without condom to completion
papasan = male manager of a massage parlor
party hat = condom
PIV = penis in vagina
PL = Pathetic Loser
PO = phone operator (for making appointments)
PS = private show (Dance)
PSE = Porn Star Experience
PV = private viewing (Dance)
RA = relaxation assistant
raincoat = condom
RB = myredbook.com
rimming = analingus
RMP = Russian Massage Parlor
ROB = Rip Off Bitch
Reverse cowgirl = RCG = girl on top facing away
Reverse massage = you massage her
Roman shower = vomit play
RPG = role playing games
Russian = penis rubbing between breasts = Pearl Necklace = titty fuck
SC = Strip Club
self-service = you masturbate
SF = San Francisco
shill = an insider posing as a satisfied customer
SO = significant other
SOG = shot on goal = one release
SOMF = sat on my face
south of the border = gential region
southern france = BBBJ
SP = Service Provider
SPA = streetwalker stroll: San Pablo Avenue in Oakland, CA
spanish = ATM = ass to mouth
spinner = very petite, thin girl
STD = sexually transmitted disease
stroll = path frequented by street walkers
SW = street walker
TAMP = Therapeutic Asian Massage Parlor
teabag = man squats and dips balls in partner's mouth
TG = transgender
TGTBT = too good to be true
Tina = crystal meth
TJ = Tijuana
TL = Tenderloin district, San Francisco. between Van Ness Ave, Post St, Taylor St, and Golden Gate Ave
TLD = topless lap dance
tossing salad = analingus
Troll = rude and hideous PL
Trolling = Posting thinly disguised ads in a discussion forum
TOFTT = Take one for the team. In reference to a new, non-reviewed provider.
TS = transexual
TUMA = tongue up my ass
TV = transvestite
UTF = Untranslated French = BBBJ
UTR = under the radar
WTF = What the fuck? (I'm rather surprised by this)
XOXO = Kisses & Hugs
YMMV = Your mileage may vary. Your service level could be different than reported by others. Applies to everyone, some more so than others.
1/2 and 1/2 = half and half = oral sex + full service
411 = seeking information
420 = 4:20 = marijuana
69 = two people giving each other oral sex at the same time
$ = $100
$$ = $200
$$$ = $300
$$$.5 = $350 (get it?)
incall = You go to her place, or a place she designates.
Outcall = She comes to your place, home, hotel room.

 

[honeybear69]

HOLY SHIT CPG....your thumbs must be broken after all that phone typing!! LOL
HB69.....was here?!?!?

 

[Mandalorian]

Ok, I’ll bite. What is hole play? Just another name for the usual?

Digits in both holes down there. This is a relatively new term but describes a lot of the fun play allowed nowadays in the shower and out.

 

[William St]

Please add to this list as any of you see fit.

I would like to suggest to a MOD a pinned thread be opened in a lounge or appropriate spot. I didn't see anything along those lines


AAMP = Apartment Asian Massage Parlor. Based in a residential apartment instead of a commercial storefront.
ABC = american born chinese
ABJ = american born japanese
Agency = a company that manages calls, bookings, and advertising for a group of escorts.
AMP = Asian Massage Parlor
analingus = licking anus
Asian = analingus
Asian Cowgirl = girl on top, squatting
ASP = Adult Service Provider, or alt.sex.prostitution newsgroup
ATF = all time favorite
ATM = ass to mouth = penis, toy, finger goes from ass to mouth.
attempts = trying to Fun
Aunt Flo = menstruation, period
B&S = bait and switch = person who shows up is a different one than advertised
babyback = petite, young, attractive Asian
balloons = breast implants
BB = bareback = without condom
BJ = *job = oral sex = fellatio
BBBJ = bare back * job = BJ without condom
BBBJTC = bare back * job to completion (in mouth)
BBBJTCIM = bare back * job to completion in mouth
BBBJTCNQNS = bare back * job to completion, no quit, no spit
BBBJTCWS = bare back * job to completion with swallow
BBBJWF = bare back * job with facial
BBFS = bare back sex
BBW = big beautiful woman
BCD = behind closed doors
BDSM = bondage, discipline, sado-masochism.
BF = boy friend
BFE = boy friend experience
birdwatching = BBBJTCWS
BLS = ball licking and sucking
Blue Jay = * job
blue pill = Viagra
BSB = bus stop babe
butter face = everything looks good, but her face
BTW = by the way
cash and dash = ROB who takes your money and runs
CBJ = covered * job = BJ with condom
CC Rider = full service provider costing $200 or less
CD = cross dresser
CDS = covered doggy style
CFS = covered full service = Sex with condom
CG = cowgirl = girl on top facing you
CH = Crazy Horse, SF Strip Club
CIM = cum in mouth
CL = craigslist.org
CMD = carpet matches drapes, typically a natural blonde
CMT = Certified Massage Therapist. A professional masseuse.
Cowgirl = CG = girl on top facing you
cover = condom
cruising = driving around, looking for streetwalkers
cups of coffee = releases = Funs
DATO = dining at the o = analingus
DATY = dining at the y = cunnilingus
DDP = double digit penetration, kitty and anus
Dodge = streetwalker stroll: Mission Blvd, between A St and 14th St, in Hayward, CA
Doggie = man behind girl, girl on hands and knees
donation = payment
Doubles = A threesome with two girls and you
DDE = doesn't do extras (PS only)
DDG = drop dead gorgeous
DFK = deep french kissing, open mouth with tongue
DIY = do it yourself (masturbation)
DP = double penetration, two guys on one girl
DT = deep throat, entire length of penis taken in mouth
ECR = el camino real
EOM = end of message. No text in message body.
escort = a temporary companion for hire
facial = cumming on partner's face
FBSM = full body sensual massage
fire and ice = a *job switching between hot tea and ice
FIV = finger in vagina
FKK = Frei K?rper Kultur. German brothel / nudist club.
FOB = fresh off the boat. Asian immigrant recently arrived in the US.
FOV = finger outside vagina
French = BJ
French Kiss = Kissing with tongue insertion
FS = full service = BJ + Sex
Get Brain = * job
Get Comfortable = get completely naked
GIRLFRIEND = girlfriend experience. Typically BBBJ, CFS, DFK, DATY, and MSOG
GG = Golden Gypsy. defunct, famous Berkeley massage parlor
GND = girl next door
Greek = anal sex, back door
GS = golden shower = urination play
GSM = g-spot massage
happy ending = A handjob (usually) or *job after your massage
hardwood floors = clean shaven kitty
Hat = condom
HDH = high dollar hottie
HJ = hand job = a manual / hand release
HH = half hour
HM = high mileage
HME = honeymoon experience, lapdog heaven
HWP = height and weight proportionate
hooker = escort
IMHO = in my humble opinion
interpreter = condom
Italian = penis rubbing between butt cheeks
ISO = in search of
kitty = vagina
Lapdog = person who worships providers to excess.
LDL = low dollar looker (opposite of HDH)
LE = ellie = law enforcement
LK = light kissing, closed mouth
LOS = land of smiles = Thailand
mamasan = female manager of a massage parlor
MBOT = Mitchell Brothers O'Farrell Theatre, SF Strip Club
MBR = multiple bell ringing = MSOG
MILF = mom I'd like to f-ck
Mish = missionary position, or the SF Mission District
Missionary = man on top, girl on back
mohawk = thin rectangular strip of pubic hair
MP = massage parlor
MP = multiple pops = multiple releases
MSC = Market Street Cinema, SF Strip Club
MSOG = multiple shots on goal = multiple releases
NCT = New Century Theatre, SF Strip Club
non-pro = not a professional provider
NP = no problem
NSA = no strings attached
OWO = oral without condom
OWOTC = oral without condom to completion
papasan = male manager of a massage parlor
party hat = condom
PIV = penis in vagina
PL = Pathetic Loser
PO = phone operator (for making appointments)
PS = private show (Dance)
PSE = Porn Star Experience
PV = private viewing (Dance)
RA = relaxation assistant
raincoat = condom
RB = myredbook.com
rimming = analingus
RMP = Russian Massage Parlor
ROB = Rip Off Bitch
Reverse cowgirl = RCG = girl on top facing away
Reverse massage = you massage her
Roman shower = vomit play
RPG = role playing games
Russian = penis rubbing between breasts = Pearl Necklace = titty fuck
SC = Strip Club
self-service = you masturbate
SF = San Francisco
shill = an insider posing as a satisfied customer
SO = significant other
SOG = shot on goal = one release
SOMF = sat on my face
south of the border = gential region
southern france = BBBJ
SP = Service Provider
SPA = streetwalker stroll: San Pablo Avenue in Oakland, CA
spanish = ATM = ass to mouth
spinner = very petite, thin girl
STD = sexually transmitted disease
stroll = path frequented by street walkers
SW = street walker
TAMP = Therapeutic Asian Massage Parlor
teabag = man squats and dips balls in partner's mouth
TG = transgender
TGTBT = too good to be true
Tina = crystal meth
TJ = Tijuana
TL = Tenderloin district, San Francisco. between Van Ness Ave, Post St, Taylor St, and Golden Gate Ave
TLD = topless lap dance
tossing salad = analingus
Troll = rude and hideous PL
Trolling = Posting thinly disguised ads in a discussion forum
TOFTT = Take one for the team. In reference to a new, non-reviewed provider.
TS = transexual
TUMA = tongue up my ass
TV = transvestite
UTF = Untranslated French = BBBJ
UTR = under the radar
WTF = What the fuck? (I'm rather surprised by this)
XOXO = Kisses & Hugs
YMMV = Your mileage may vary. Your service level could be different than reported by others. Applies to everyone, some more so than others.
1/2 and 1/2 = half and half = oral sex + full service
411 = seeking information
420 = 4:20 = marijuana
69 = two people giving each other oral sex at the same time
$ = $100
$$ = $200
$$$ = $300
$$$.5 = $350 (get it?)
incall = You go to her place, or a place she designates.
Outcall = She comes to your place, home, hotel room.

Wow! That's a definitive list!

 

[buwft]

Please add to this list as any of you see fit.

I would like to suggest to a MOD a pinned thread be opened in a lounge or appropriate spot. I didn't see anything along those lines


AAMP = Apartment Asian Massage Parlor. Based in a residential apartment instead of a commercial storefront.
ABC = american born chinese
ABJ = american born japanese
Agency = a company that manages calls, bookings, and advertising for a group of escorts.
AMP = Asian Massage Parlor
analingus = licking anus
Asian = analingus
Asian Cowgirl = girl on top, squatting
ASP = Adult Service Provider, or alt.sex.prostitution newsgroup
ATF = all time favorite
ATM = ass to mouth = penis, toy, finger goes from ass to mouth.
attempts = trying to Fun
Aunt Flo = menstruation, period
B&S = bait and switch = person who shows up is a different one than advertised
babyback = petite, young, attractive Asian
balloons = breast implants
BB = bareback = without condom
BJ = *job = oral sex = fellatio
BBBJ = bare back * job = BJ without condom
BBBJTC = bare back * job to completion (in mouth)
BBBJTCIM = bare back * job to completion in mouth
BBBJTCNQNS = bare back * job to completion, no quit, no spit
BBBJTCWS = bare back * job to completion with swallow
BBBJWF = bare back * job with facial
BBFS = bare back sex
BBW = big beautiful woman
BCD = behind closed doors
BDSM = bondage, discipline, sado-masochism.
BF = boy friend
BFE = boy friend experience
birdwatching = BBBJTCWS
BLS = ball licking and sucking
Blue Jay = * job
blue pill = Viagra
BSB = bus stop babe
butter face = everything looks good, but her face
BTW = by the way
cash and dash = ROB who takes your money and runs
CBJ = covered * job = BJ with condom
CC Rider = full service provider costing $200 or less
CD = cross dresser
CDS = covered doggy style
CFS = covered full service = Sex with condom
CG = cowgirl = girl on top facing you
CH = Crazy Horse, SF Strip Club
CIM = cum in mouth
CL = craigslist.org
CMD = carpet matches drapes, typically a natural blonde
CMT = Certified Massage Therapist. A professional masseuse.
Cowgirl = CG = girl on top facing you
cover = condom
cruising = driving around, looking for streetwalkers
cups of coffee = releases = Funs
DATO = dining at the o = analingus
DATY = dining at the y = cunnilingus
DDP = double digit penetration, kitty and anus
Dodge = streetwalker stroll: Mission Blvd, between A St and 14th St, in Hayward, CA
Doggie = man behind girl, girl on hands and knees
donation = payment
Doubles = A threesome with two girls and you
DDE = doesn't do extras (PS only)
DDG = drop dead gorgeous
DFK = deep french kissing, open mouth with tongue
DIY = do it yourself (masturbation)
DP = double penetration, two guys on one girl
DT = deep throat, entire length of penis taken in mouth
ECR = el camino real
EOM = end of message. No text in message body.
escort = a temporary companion for hire
facial = cumming on partner's face
FBSM = full body sensual massage
fire and ice = a *job switching between hot tea and ice
FIV = finger in vagina
FKK = Frei K?rper Kultur. German brothel / nudist club.
FOB = fresh off the boat. Asian immigrant recently arrived in the US.
FOV = finger outside vagina
French = BJ
French Kiss = Kissing with tongue insertion
FS = full service = BJ + Sex
Get Brain = * job
Get Comfortable = get completely naked
GIRLFRIEND = girlfriend experience. Typically BBBJ, CFS, DFK, DATY, and MSOG
GG = Golden Gypsy. defunct, famous Berkeley massage parlor
GND = girl next door
Greek = anal sex, back door
GS = golden shower = urination play
GSM = g-spot massage
happy ending = A handjob (usually) or *job after your massage
hardwood floors = clean shaven kitty
Hat = condom
HDH = high dollar hottie
HJ = hand job = a manual / hand release
HH = half hour
HM = high mileage
HME = honeymoon experience, lapdog heaven
HWP = height and weight proportionate
hooker = escort
IMHO = in my humble opinion
interpreter = condom
Italian = penis rubbing between butt cheeks
ISO = in search of
kitty = vagina
Lapdog = person who worships providers to excess.
LDL = low dollar looker (opposite of HDH)
LE = ellie = law enforcement
LK = light kissing, closed mouth
LOS = land of smiles = Thailand
mamasan = female manager of a massage parlor
MBOT = Mitchell Brothers O'Farrell Theatre, SF Strip Club
MBR = multiple bell ringing = MSOG
MILF = mom I'd like to f-ck
Mish = missionary position, or the SF Mission District
Missionary = man on top, girl on back
mohawk = thin rectangular strip of pubic hair
MP = massage parlor
MP = multiple pops = multiple releases
MSC = Market Street Cinema, SF Strip Club
MSOG = multiple shots on goal = multiple releases
NCT = New Century Theatre, SF Strip Club
non-pro = not a professional provider
NP = no problem
NSA = no strings attached
OWO = oral without condom
OWOTC = oral without condom to completion
papasan = male manager of a massage parlor
party hat = condom
PIV = penis in vagina
PL = Pathetic Loser
PO = phone operator (for making appointments)
PS = private show (Dance)
PSE = Porn Star Experience
PV = private viewing (Dance)
RA = relaxation assistant
raincoat = condom
RB = myredbook.com
rimming = analingus
RMP = Russian Massage Parlor
ROB = Rip Off Bitch
Reverse cowgirl = RCG = girl on top facing away
Reverse massage = you massage her
Roman shower = vomit play
RPG = role playing games
Russian = penis rubbing between breasts = Pearl Necklace = titty fuck
SC = Strip Club
self-service = you masturbate
SF = San Francisco
shill = an insider posing as a satisfied customer
SO = significant other
SOG = shot on goal = one release
SOMF = sat on my face
south of the border = gential region
southern france = BBBJ
SP = Service Provider
SPA = streetwalker stroll: San Pablo Avenue in Oakland, CA
spanish = ATM = ass to mouth
spinner = very petite, thin girl
STD = sexually transmitted disease
stroll = path frequented by street walkers
SW = street walker
TAMP = Therapeutic Asian Massage Parlor
teabag = man squats and dips balls in partner's mouth
TG = transgender
TGTBT = too good to be true
Tina = crystal meth
TJ = Tijuana
TL = Tenderloin district, San Francisco. between Van Ness Ave, Post St, Taylor St, and Golden Gate Ave
TLD = topless lap dance
tossing salad = analingus
Troll = rude and hideous PL
Trolling = Posting thinly disguised ads in a discussion forum
TOFTT = Take one for the team. In reference to a new, non-reviewed provider.
TS = transexual
TUMA = tongue up my ass
TV = transvestite
UTF = Untranslated French = BBBJ
UTR = under the radar
WTF = What the fuck? (I'm rather surprised by this)
XOXO = Kisses & Hugs
YMMV = Your mileage may vary. Your service level could be different than reported by others. Applies to everyone, some more so than others.
1/2 and 1/2 = half and half = oral sex + full service
411 = seeking information
420 = 4:20 = marijuana
69 = two people giving each other oral sex at the same time
$ = $100
$$ = $200
$$$ = $300
$$$.5 = $350 (get it?)
incall = You go to her place, or a place she designates.
Outcall = She comes to your place, home, hotel room.

obviously you have far too much time on your hands must be single

 

[Dave_1]

Digits in both holes down there. This is a relatively new term but describes a lot of the fun play allowed nowadays in the shower and out.

this is what I mean… if its digits, then we already have a term that describes that-if an add says “digits” everyone can know what exactly that means.
also, i side with SWers that dont like to give out lists of services- as bookin them isnt a fucking contrac its not like what was agreed on is what will happen wothout a shadow of a doubt. It should be just be what they are open to when they meet you…
But as someone that is looking to book, its nice to know that what you want IS on the table. I took “hole play” to be just anither way of saying FS. I took mouthplay to be just another way of saying BJ. I hate having to guess…

its like a steakhouse, but you don’t know if they serve burgers. So, you make an assumption that they will because, well, every other steakhouse sells burgers too. So you go in, get a seat, maybe order drinks…ANND they dont sell burgers.
Which is fine, the said steakhouse doesn’t have to serve burgers and you DID go to a steakhouse not a burger joint…. But there are pictures of burger looking sandwhiches on all the adds, and the menu lists “beef sandwhiches.”
So you order one… but it arrives your heart sinks because it doesn’t even resemble a burger… its a cheese toast with some roast beef slices placed in between.

i guess this is where I am at in this industry. I dont like pushing boundaries and I dont like cancelling an appointment so when this happens I typically just bite the bullet. Of course, I enjoy what service I do get, and I dont complain.
Decriminalizing sw will help everyone out in this industry.

 

[Carleton Place Gent]

HOLY SHIT CPG....your thumbs must be broken after all that phone typing!! LOL
HB69.....was here?!?!?

obviously you have far too much time on your hands must be single

First off. I was originally pissed at the buft post. Then I realized. He is……. well. I’m not gonna go there.

Secondly. Copied and pasted from our sister community PERB. So I wasn’t creating carpel tunnel in my fingers. This is from a pinned thread over there and is quiet a vast list spanning the years. If we add to it as we go, we can help educate the newbies and some of you old dawgs.

 

[buwft]

First off. I was originally pissed at the buft post. Then I realized. He is……. well. I’m not gonna go there.

Secondly. Copied and pasted from our sister community PERB. So I wasn’t creating carpel tunnel in my fingers. This is from a pinned thread over there and is quiet a vast list spanning the years. If we add to it as we go, we can help educate the newbies and some of you old dawgs.

have a merry christmas brother. I'm stuck with the wife over the holidays and can't escape