In the 21st century, anti-Zionism means anti-Semitism

krealtarron

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there was NO INTIFADA for 19 years when the Gaza Strip was occupied and annexed by Egypt before 1967 and none when the West Bank was occupied and annexed by Jordan before 1967. don't give more regurgitated propaganda
So? So what? What a dumb argument.
 

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there was NO INTIFADA for 19 years when the Gaza Strip was occupied and annexed by Egypt before 1967 and none when the West Bank was occupied and annexed by Jordan before 1967. don't give more regurgitated propaganda
You're moving the goal posts.

This is about you stating that Palestinians don't have the right to self defence against an occupation that the UN says is illegal.
That is a form of apartheid, stating that Palestinians don't have basic human rights you clearly give Jewish Israelis.
 

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Why would you try to equivocate the treatment of one activist with the apartheid occupation of over 2 million people?
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What's that, you can't even answer for your own claims?

Hamas and the PA run repressive regimes where it is illegal to criticize the government and where talking to Jews is criminal; yet you only obsess over things you don't like about a Jewish majority country.
 

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You mean the party of the minister of the interior?
Kahane Chai (Kach)
Also known as

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Yes, kach is a designated terrorist entity. Can you show me evidence that Ben Gvir is a member? Now regardless, he is a nasty racist piece of shit, just like Hamas and much of Fatah. Sadly you will only criticize Jewish racists and won't even admit that Hamas, PFLP, PIJ et al are terrorists.
 

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Ah, back to your claims that the native people of Palestine have no right to self defence against an illegal occupation.
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Where does that say Palestinians have the right to attack random Jewish civilians or launch unguided rockets towards cities?



p.s. Pathetic that after saying I was lying about your claims, your back to claiming Palestinian terrorism is actually legitimate self defence.
 

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What's that, you can't even answer for your own claims?

Hamas and the PA run repressive regimes where it is illegal to criticize the government and where talking to Jews is criminal; yet you only obsess over things you don't like about a Jewish majority country.
Hamas exists in the open air prison of Gaza. There is no Jewish population there to talk to, so I have no idea what you are talking about.
The PA works hand in hand with the Israeli government so your comment makes no sense and really comes across as just more anti-Palestinian hate speech.

Yes, kach is a designated terrorist entity. Can you show me evidence that Ben Gvir is a member? Now regardless, he is a nasty racist piece of shit, just like Hamas and much of Fatah. Sadly you will only criticize Jewish racists and won't even admit that Hamas, PFLP, PIJ et al are terrorists.
But Itamar Ben Gvir — his ideological descendant, a former Kach activist, and the most politically successful Kahanist in the movement’s history — is on the brink of achieving the next best thing.

Where does that say Palestinians have the right to attack random Jewish civilians or launch unguided rockets towards cities?



p.s. Pathetic that after saying I was lying about your claims, your back to claiming Palestinian terrorism is actually legitimate self defence.
'Random Jewish citizens' is a straw man argument. We are discussing why you think Palestinians don't have the right to self defence against an occupation the UN says is illegal.
Terrorism is not legit self defence, but self defence is legit and well within the rights of a people living under a 50 year old, apartheid occupation.
Your refusal to admit that Palestinians have the right to self defence is yet another example of apartheid and your personal support of Israeli apartheid.

 

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Michigan University rally calling for 'Intifada,' demise of Israel stuns internet: 'A call to murder Jews'



Social media users were shocked and outraged over a recent anti-Israel rally put on by pro-Palestinian protestors at the University of Michigan this week.

Clips of the protest depicted marchers, chanting "Intifada, Intifada! Long live the Intifada" a call to violent overthrow of the Jewish state inspired by Palestinian riots and rebellions against Israel in the late 80s, early 90s, and early 2000s.

"There is only one solution!" a female marcher was seen chanting, as the crowd behind her responded, "Intifada! Revolution!


Marchers, seen walking around the Ann Arbor campus screaming into bullhorns and waving Palestinian flags, were also heard chanting the infamous anti-Israel call to arms: "From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free!"

Media reported that the antisemitic rally was held to protest Vice President Kamala Harris’ Thursday visit to the campus, where she gave a speech on climate policy, and student activism. The protestors appeared to be standing against U.S. government support for the state of Israel.


Another video depicted the marchers outside of campus building in which Harris was giving her speech, saying, "Not another nickel, not another dime, no more money for Israel’s crimes."

The blatant call to overthrow Israel disturbed prominent Twitter users, who were stunned that such sentiment was expressed so freely on a major American college campus.

Jewish Journal columnist Blake Flayton tweeted, "At the University of Michigan, a call to murder Jews."

Rep. Jared Moskovitz, R-Fla., spoke to the shocking nature of the rally, tweeting, "Using Hitler's word ‘solution’ is intentional here. Israel has a right to exist. We will never compromise that. The Jewish people have a right to exist. We will ensure."


Free Beacon reporter Joe Gabriel Simonson mocked the protesters, tweeting, "Loser activists think this is an intifada."

The Manhattan Institute’s Ilya Shapiro put out a snarky comment about the protest, stating, "It’s because @UMich spends only $18 million annually on DEI."

Former Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, national security advisor Boris Ryvkin condemned the rally, writing, "Terrifying. Echoes of what happened in Charlottesville, except the violent anti-Semites are cut from a different cloth. I expect major media to give this the saturated, wall-to-wall coverage it gave that event with the WH, Democratic leaders and the Squad members condemning it."

Mediaite reporter Isaac Schorr remarked, "Not making the best case for your ability to handle your own state, kiddos."

Popular conservative account AG tweeted, "I don’t think most people truly comprehend the level of hate and hostility for Jewish students in several of the top liberal Universities because the school administrations tend to support/enable this stuff."

Hollywood producer and The Spectator columnist Daniella Greenbaum Davis empathized with the Jewish students at University of Michigan. She tweeted, "The first and second intifada saw terrorists brutally murder innocent civilians. Can’t even imagine being a Jew on Michigan’s campus right now."

Author Samuel Rosenfeld tweeted, "Sickening... @UMich."

Michigan University rally calling for 'Intifada,' demise of Israel stuns internet: 'A call to murder Jews' (msn.com)
 

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Michigan University rally calling for 'Intifada,' demise of Israel stuns internet: 'A call to murder Jews'
You want this instead?
 
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Michigan University rally calling for 'Intifada,' demise of Israel stuns internet: 'A call to murder Jews'



Social media users were shocked and outraged over a recent anti-Israel rally put on by pro-Palestinian protestors at the University of Michigan this week.

Clips of the protest depicted marchers, chanting "Intifada, Intifada! Long live the Intifada" a call to violent overthrow of the Jewish state inspired by Palestinian riots and rebellions against Israel in the late 80s, early 90s, and early 2000s.

"There is only one solution!" a female marcher was seen chanting, as the crowd behind her responded, "Intifada! Revolution!


Marchers, seen walking around the Ann Arbor campus screaming into bullhorns and waving Palestinian flags, were also heard chanting the infamous anti-Israel call to arms: "From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free!"

Media reported that the antisemitic rally was held to protest Vice President Kamala Harris’ Thursday visit to the campus, where she gave a speech on climate policy, and student activism. The protestors appeared to be standing against U.S. government support for the state of Israel.


Another video depicted the marchers outside of campus building in which Harris was giving her speech, saying, "Not another nickel, not another dime, no more money for Israel’s crimes."

The blatant call to overthrow Israel disturbed prominent Twitter users, who were stunned that such sentiment was expressed so freely on a major American college campus.

Jewish Journal columnist Blake Flayton tweeted, "At the University of Michigan, a call to murder Jews."

Rep. Jared Moskovitz, R-Fla., spoke to the shocking nature of the rally, tweeting, "Using Hitler's word ‘solution’ is intentional here. Israel has a right to exist. We will never compromise that. The Jewish people have a right to exist. We will ensure."


Free Beacon reporter Joe Gabriel Simonson mocked the protesters, tweeting, "Loser activists think this is an intifada."

The Manhattan Institute’s Ilya Shapiro put out a snarky comment about the protest, stating, "It’s because @UMich spends only $18 million annually on DEI."

Former Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, national security advisor Boris Ryvkin condemned the rally, writing, "Terrifying. Echoes of what happened in Charlottesville, except the violent anti-Semites are cut from a different cloth. I expect major media to give this the saturated, wall-to-wall coverage it gave that event with the WH, Democratic leaders and the Squad members condemning it."

Mediaite reporter Isaac Schorr remarked, "Not making the best case for your ability to handle your own state, kiddos."

Popular conservative account AG tweeted, "I don’t think most people truly comprehend the level of hate and hostility for Jewish students in several of the top liberal Universities because the school administrations tend to support/enable this stuff."

Hollywood producer and The Spectator columnist Daniella Greenbaum Davis empathized with the Jewish students at University of Michigan. She tweeted, "The first and second intifada saw terrorists brutally murder innocent civilians. Can’t even imagine being a Jew on Michigan’s campus right now."

Author Samuel Rosenfeld tweeted, "Sickening... @UMich."

Michigan University rally calling for 'Intifada,' demise of Israel stuns internet: 'A call to murder Jews' (msn.com)
Not a single word about murdering anyone. Great demo of Palestinians demanding their rights and committing to fighting the occupation and apartheid.
 
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One of the infinite examples of occupation and apartheid. Great demo in Michigan.

Settlers filmed attacking Palestinians, foreign tourists during West Bank hike
A group of Israeli youths, likely from an illegal settlement outpost, assaulted a group of Palestinians and foreign nationals who were hiking near the West Bank city of Jericho on Friday, according to eye-witness accounts and video footage from the incident.

In the footage, a young Jewish man can be seen swinging a club at the hikers, who back away and scream as he attacks them.

Two women were injured by at least one of the youths who assaulted them with a wooden club, and subsequently received medical treatment in Ramallah for their injuries.

 
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Hamas exists in the open air prison of Gaza. There is no Jewish population there to talk to, so I have no idea what you are talking about.
The PA works hand in hand with the Israeli government so your comment makes no sense and really comes across as just more anti-Palestinian hate speech.
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Ah, the justifications for terrorism combined with more claims it is racist to say Hamas is a terror group. You really are a joke.



Where is your evidence that Ben Gvir is a member of Kach. He isn't because even Israel bans Kach and considers them a terror group. Sadly you have no interest in criticizing Palestinians who are members of terror groups though. He may have been inspired by Kahane but there are plenty of people who have been inspired by disgusting people who aren't terrorists. Most Palestinians are inspired by Hamas or Arafat in some ways but unless that doesn't make them terrorists. the ones who commit acts of terror and the ones who are members of designated terrorist entities are though.


And still waiting for you to quote where in that document it says unguidable rockets, shooting attacks on passing civilian cars or homes, ramming attacks on bus stops, or bombs on buses are 'self defence'. All you are doing is disgusting attempts at moralizing a position that has absolutely no moral defence.
 

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You want this instead?
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You want this instead?


I've been clear what I want is a negotiated peace where the terms were decided by the groups involved and pressure being put on both sides to achieve that.

You've been clear that what you want is Jews gone from the region. At least you endlessly defend and excuse groups like Hamas who are open about that being their goal.
 

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One of the infinite examples of occupation and apartheid. Great demo in Michigan.

Settlers filmed attacking Palestinians, foreign tourists during West Bank hike
A group of Israeli youths, likely from an illegal settlement outpost, assaulted a group of Palestinians and foreign nationals who were hiking near the West Bank city of Jericho on Friday, according to eye-witness accounts and video footage from the incident.

In the footage, a young Jewish man can be seen swinging a club at the hikers, who back away and scream as he attacks them.

Two women were injured by at least one of the youths who assaulted them with a wooden club, and subsequently received medical treatment in Ramallah for their injuries.

Fuckers should be thrown in jail. Just like Palestinians who attack Jews. I know you won't want to admit it but both sides do this kind of shit.
 

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Ah, the justifications for terrorism combined with more claims it is racist to say Hamas is a terror group. You really are a joke.



Where is your evidence that Ben Gvir is a member of Kach. He isn't because even Israel bans Kach and considers them a terror group. Sadly you have no interest in criticizing Palestinians who are members of terror groups though. He may have been inspired by Kahane but there are plenty of people who have been inspired by disgusting people who aren't terrorists. Most Palestinians are inspired by Hamas or Arafat in some ways but unless that doesn't make them terrorists. the ones who commit acts of terror and the ones who are members of designated terrorist entities are though.


And still waiting for you to quote where in that document it says unguidable rockets, shooting attacks on passing civilian cars or homes, ramming attacks on bus stops, or bombs on buses are 'self defence'. All you are doing is disgusting attempts at moralizing a position that has absolutely no moral defence.
Kahan = Kach


Hamas should be charged for all acts of terrorism.
Israel should be charged for all acts of terrorism.

Why can you only agree with one of those statements?
 

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Fuckers should be thrown in jail. Just like Palestinians who attack Jews. I know you won't want to admit it but both sides do this kind of shit.
They won't, settlers attack with the backing of the IDF.
Its government policy now.

“Disturbing evidence of Israeli forces frequently facilitating, supporting and participating in settler attacks, makes it difficult to discern between Israeli settler and State violence,” said the experts. “The impunity of one is reinforced by the impunity of the other.”

 

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Eyewitness claims soldiers pepper-sprayed Palestinian, shot him dead when he flailed

An eyewitness to a deadly incident in the West Bank earlier this week told Israeli radio on Tuesday that the Palestinian man who was shot dead by Israeli soldiers did not attempt to attack forces, as the army has asserted.

The witness claimed the man was pepper-sprayed by the troops and flailing because of it when he was shot.

Kahla, a father of four, was on his way to work when he was shot, his family said.

Kan news on Tuesday aired the testimony of an unnamed eyewitness to the incident who said the checkpoint was tough, with soldiers taking as long as half an hour to let a single car through.

 
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