In the 21st century, anti-Zionism means anti-Semitism

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You don't post facts, you post Palestinian hate speech.
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Your claims are fucking asinine and a pathetic attempt to cover your anti-semitism and your elitist infantralization of Palestinians.

If it's hate speech to say Hamas, PFLP or PIJ are terrorists, you better run down to Ottawa and tell the government they're under arrest.

Maybe you should stick with your racist double standard where you condemn Israel based on any random tweet yet refuse to condemn terrorism from militant Palestinians even after your own rights groups have investigated and condemned them.
 
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What a surprise. You condemn Israel based on any tweet but refuse to condemn any Palestinian actions even when your rights groups condemn it.

Why is it you refuse to even admit the posted acts are terrorism? Is it because you don't want anything distracting from your obsessive hatred of Jews in the Middle East or is it because you think Palestinians are incapable of moral behaviour?

And just a reminder, in this thread alone you stated that you think being Jewish in the West Bank makes one a legitimate target because 'how can you tell them apart" (can't recall too many more racist statements recently) and stated you consider all of Israel to be 'occupied territory' where Jews shouldn't be.
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Why should I be the one to decide whether acts are 'terrorism' or not?
Support a call for both sides to be investigated based on legit reports and both sides to be held to the law equally.

And as a reminder, you have admitted that Palestinians have no way to tell which illegal settlers are terrorists and which are civilians, have admitted that the IDF aid terrorist settlers attacking civilian Palestinians and have denied that Palestinians have a right to self defence against either Israeli terrorists or the illegal, apartheid occupation.

All you support is ongoing 19th century, racist settler colonialism.
 
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I love your butler-like logic.

You claim Israel is apartheid because only Palestinian get administrative detention even though you admit Jews are in administrative detention. You claim Israel is apartheid because Jews have more rights, completely ignoring that 20% of Israelis with those rights are the exact same ethnicity you say is targeted.

Does Israel have systemic discrimination? Yes. We do too.
Do the laws specify that certain ethnicities have lesser rights? Absolutely not (unless you want to admit that Israeli Arabs actually have more rights than Israeli Jews in two areas - for Arabs, military service is voluntary and they are permitted to travel in parts of the West Bank where Jews aren't allowed).

Of course there are plenty of countries, especially in the region that do legally restrict other religions or ethnicities which you don't bat an eye at, even when Palestinians are the legal victims of that abuse. For example, your only comment on Lebanon systemically refusing to give Palestinian refugees and their generations of descendants any rights, access to education, health care, and explicitly bans them from numerous professions but your only comment is to blame Israel for Lebanon's choices.
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Amnesty, HRW, B'tselem and the UN have all investigated and reported that Israel is apartheid.
Nobody has made any such claims against Canada.

Your attempt at equivalency is disgusting.

Why do you continue to support apartheid?


www.amnesty.org

Israel's apartheid against Palestinians

Palestinians are systematically subjected to home demolitions and forced evictions, and live in constant fear of losing their homes. For more than 73 years, Israel has been forcibly displacing entire Palestinian communities. Hundreds of thousands of Palestinians’ homes have been demolished...
www.amnesty.org www.amnesty.org

www.hrw.org

A Threshold Crossed

The 213-page report, “A Threshold Crossed: Israeli Authorities and the Crimes of Apartheid and Persecution,” examines Israel’s treatment of Palestinians. It presents the present-day reality of a single authority, the Israeli government, ruling primarily over the area between the Jordan River and...
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www.btselem.org

Apartheid

The Israeli regime enacts in all the territory it controls (Israeli sovereign territory, East Jerusalem, the West Bank, and the Gaza Strip) an apartheid regime. One organizing principle lies at the base of a wide array of Israeli policies: advancing and perpetuating the supremacy of one group –...
www.btselem.org www.btselem.org

news.un.org

Israel’s occupation of Palestinian Territory is ‘apartheid’: UN rights expert

Calling on the international community to accept and adopt the recent findings in his report, an independent human rights expert said on Friday that “apartheid is being practiced by Israel in the occupied Palestinian territory”.
news.un.org news.un.org
 
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basketcase said:
Your claims are fucking asinine and a pathetic attempt to cover your anti-semitism and your elitist infantralization of Palestinians.

If it's hate speech to say Hamas, PFLP or PIJ are terrorists, you better run down to Ottawa and tell the government they're under arrest.

Maybe you should stick with your racist double standard where you condemn Israel based on any random tweet yet refuse to condemn terrorism from militant Palestinians even after your own rights groups have investigated and condemned them.
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Its hate speech to continue to demonize all Palestinians as 'terrorists' in order to justify apartheid, settler colonialism and violence against civilians.
Your refusal to acknowledge Palestinians have a right to self defence against and internationally recognized illegal occupation is part of your apartheid, racist views.
 
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Frankfooter said:
Why should I be the one to decide whether acts are 'terrorism' or not?
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Funny because you keep accusing Israel of terrorism for all sorts of things. As you've shown repeatedly, you'll use any random tweet to accuse Israel of terrorism while refusing to criticize terrorism from Palestinians because the ICC hasn't made a ruling. And to top it off, you keep arguing with the investigations of the rights groups you pretend to respect when they say being a Jew in occupied territory does not make you a militant.

Again exposing yourself as having a racist double standard.
 
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Frankfooter said:
Its hate speech to continue to demonize all Palestinians as 'terrorists' in order to justify apartheid, settler colonialism and violence against civilians.
Your refusal to acknowledge Palestinians have a right to self defence against and internationally recognized illegal occupation is part of your apartheid, racist views.
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Which is something I've never done. Meanwhile you've repeatedly accused every Jew in occupied territories of being a terrorist. Another own goal on your racism.


www.timesofisrael.com

US calls both shooting of Israeli patrolman and young Palestinian ‘terror attacks’

Statements from State Department appear to make a point of equating two deadly incidents; urge 'full accountability and justice' in the settlers-Palestinians case
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I agree with the US on this. Sadly you'll make excuses for the PIJ guy who went to shoot up tel aviv.
 
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Funny because you keep accusing Israel of terrorism for all sorts of things. As you've shown repeatedly, you'll use any random tweet to accuse Israel of terrorism while refusing to criticize terrorism from Palestinians because the ICC hasn't made a ruling. And to top it off, you keep arguing with the investigations of the rights groups you pretend to respect when they say being a Jew in occupied territory does not make you a militant.

Again exposing yourself as having a racist double standard.
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Why would anyone think I'm the one with the double standard when you're the one that refuses to call for both sides to be investigated equally based on legit reports?
Why would anyone think that the person who supports apartheid isn't the one with a racist double standard?

You're doing that MAGA thing of accusing others of what you are personally guilty of yourself.
 
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As I said, own goal.

Your posts are full of obsessive, racist double standards. I was shocked when you repeatedly said Jews in the Occupied territories (which you've state you see as all of Israel) are legitimate targets because you can't tell them apart.
 
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They have all agreed that being a Jew in occupied territory doesn't make you a legitimate target but you ignore them on that.
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I agree it doesn't make you a legitimate target just being of one race/religion.
What does is when you can't be differentiated from militant terrorists that are running rampant through occupied Palestine.
Even you can't explain how you can tell the difference between militant 'settlers' and civilian 'settlers', so how can Palestinians?

There are over 100 terrorist attacks a month now, how can you tell who is a terrorist and who is a civilian?

UN agency reports nearly 600 settler attacks over past six months
OCHA says figure includes attacks on Palestinians and property; rise comes after ‘number of such incidents in 2022 was already the highest since we started recording them’

That's a lot of terrorism you forgot to call out, by the way.
 
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As I said, own goal.

Your posts are full of obsessive, racist double standards. I was shocked when you repeatedly said Jews in the Occupied territories (which you've state you see as all of Israel) are legitimate targets because you can't tell them apart.
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You can't tell them apart either, can you?
Nor can you explain why anyone should care what a supporter of apartheid says about calling anyone else racist.
Its about as bad as being accused of racism by bud plug.


UN agency reports nearly 600 settler attacks over past six months
OCHA says figure includes attacks on Palestinians and property; rise comes after ‘number of such incidents in 2022 was already the highest since we started recording them’

www.reuters.com

US calls suspected Israeli settler attack terrorism

The sharpened language appears to reflect frustration with surging violence in the occupied West Bank.
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https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1687878398868348928
 
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