I'm a nice guy!!!

Lisa of Toronto said:
they fun for a minute or two...den i dump dem or they dump me...its all fun an games until somebody looses an eye :D or a heart

Very true. my heart ben broke so much. I am at the point of no return I think.
 
alu1 said:
treating the lady well and with respect is a quality that all men should have. at least that is what i always aim for. the "nice guy" thing had been discussed many times before and i think being too reserved and not speaking one's mind is the biggest reason why people say "nice guys always finish last", a little perspective change like not being too reserved and really talk and know the girl will do some good and break the cycle. you never know, maybe you will finish first. i am no expert at it, but thats my thinking anyways. =)

Treating woman with respect is the quality you do have.
 
seaniam said:
All women like power and status in their men it really comes down to a question of what definition of power and status they are willing to settle for.


sean

Whether the agency a man has, has nothing to do with respect. He either treats a woman right, or has the status of a complete asshole.
 
I have no choice but to be the "bad boy" after getting burned for being "nice" too many times.

Women like a challenge. They don't get that from a nice guy. I've found being mysterious to them works. Don't tell them too much about yourself right away. That way she can have a reason to think about you when you're not around. (What's he "doing now" etc..)

I laugh at guys that meet a girl and right away tell her what he did earlier that day or last week or what he does etc.. In a lame attempt to impress her right away, but he just ends up talking all the "mystery" about himself away by doing that making him a bore.

Oh and don't forget that women love to argue. A guy that gives his girl no reason to argue becomes a bore to her and she'll then becomes a bore to her girlfriends because once she has nothing bad to say about her man when she gets together with her girls.. She's toast within that circle. Meaning her girlfriends that are busy whining about their men problems will kick her out of the group/clique.

That's the truth. I've seen this shit go down with chicks.
 
Quite true Sam.

Remember guys, the bad boys are the ones popping the cherries out there. No matter how many more guys a girl sleeps with for the rest of her life, she will always remembers the very first guy.

In summary, the bad boy owns the good guy. Always has, always will.
 
Women like to argue, lol, you nailed it there dude. I dated this woman who everytime things were going well, and we were both happy would go and do something to create turmoil. I remember one time we were watching the red carpet parade for the oscars and she asked if I thought such and such actress was hot. I said no, not at all.....oh man......she didn't believe me when I said "I have a hot beautiful naked woman laying next to me on the couch, how could I think someone on TV was hot"???
 
There are two lessons I've learned the hard way over the years:

1. Don't take dating advice from women. With all due respect to the women on this board, most women will tell you one thing but really like something else, i.e. say they want a nice guy but go for the prick.

2. Even if you are a nice guy, act like a prick once in a while to keep her guessing or on edge. In a way, she'll get the best of both worlds.
 
I think it all depends if the woman is looking for Mr. Right or Mr. Right now...

Think about it..... Also look at it from a different perspective... As a guy, and you're just looking for a quick "hook-up"... you will seek out a hottie with a bit of a "nasty streak"... because in the short term, they are more fun. If on the other hand you're looking for a long term relationship, then I suspect you may gravitate towards something a little more wholesome/ less nasty...

Now put yourself in the woman's shoes. If THEY are just looking for some instant gratification, they may go after something a little more on the "bad-boy" side of things for the same reason.

Now... on the other hand- there is such a thing as a wolf in sheep's clothing... That's the one you may want to aspire to be.
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Shaunhorny said:
Remember guys, the bad boys are the ones popping the cherries out there.

This is probably because bad boys are more aggressive and persistent. A bad boy told me once that he might get 10 rejections but he only needs one to make it worthwhile. Also, don't bad boys lead more interesting lives?
 
Hey Jeff, do not despair. In the movie "The 40 Year Old Virgin", the nice guy got the girl. Just make sure you have 20 years of Barbie dolls still in their original packaging displayed on your shelf.
 
I disagree with all this "Nice Guy" crap!

The only difference between nice guys and assholes is that Assholes have more
balls to tell a girl how he feels, that he only fancies a shag!

YOU, the "nice guy" are just too ball-less to even tell a girl you want to shag her!
Girls love guys with big balls... end of story.
 
asn said:
if you're interested in her have you told her and asked her out yet? if you haven't why haven't you?
this is the whole thing. if you haven't made a move yet- then you are done.
 
Ask her out?

red said:
this is the whole thing. if you haven't made a move yet- then you are done.

I see he 1 day a week for a couple hours. I live in NY and she lives in NF Canada. Just met her 6 to 8 weeks ago. And when I do see her, we aren't alone so it's a little tricky. I probably won't see her this week cause of other plans. But I will be poppin the question soon!!!
 
JEFF247 said:
I see he 1 day a week for a couple hours. I live in NY and she lives in NF Canada. Just met her 6 to 8 weeks ago. And when I do see her, we aren't alone so it's a little tricky. I probably won't see her this week cause of other plans. But I will be poppin the question soon!!!


do it or someone else will. hell I will drive down there and ask her out if you dont
 
I disagree with this whole nice guy thread:) . In most cases the nice guy is the guy who either doesn't have money, a good job or the looks to be a bad boy---lol.

IMHO, a lot of bad boys are Doctors, Lawyers, Accountants or other successful business people who can afford to be jerks or act as bad boys towards women.

These bad boys realize that if one woman rejects them then there's another woman just around the corner waiting to take her place. Again, just my opinion. That's why these bad boys aren't hungry or desperate for women. We've all heard the expression that those who aren't hungry are ironically the ones who are always fed first.

Personally, I wish I was a bad boy---lol.
 
It's no secret that girls will flock to the "bad boy" 10 to 1 over a "nice guy" because they like the edge and excitement.

But they often don't stop to think how their lives will play out if they stick with the bad boy long term.

Ladies, if you TRULY, and REALLY are interested in a bad boy, I've got just the place for you to hang out.

It's the exit door at Millhaven Institution in Kingston. Bad boys come through those doors every day.

Knock yourself out... Just don't come crying to us later, wondering where all the good men are, k?
 
In doing some research about the 'Bad Boy' concept that has been constantly brought up, I found what might be some useful information.

http://moneypowerandseduction.com/seduction/seductive-traits-of-the-bad-boy/

Here are some of the seductive qualities of a Bad Boy:

Confidence
Bad Boys always assume women want them – they have no idea what the word insecure means. Your attitude should be that you’re the one in demand, not women you are talking to.

Hidden Emotions
Remain a mystery and don’t let women know what you’re thinking. Keep them guessing. She won’t be able to figure you out, which makes you more appealing.

Furthermore, make sure everything you say has a purpose. Don’t volunteer information. Simply answer a question if asked.

Low tolerance
Do not tolerate any BS from a female. When she tries to test you, tell her to act her age. Do not be afraid to say no, stand your ground, or walk away from a situation.

Independence
Never change who you are to impress a woman or in the hope that you’ll get her into bed with you. Occupy your time with your own life and your own interests. Make plenty of time for your buddies as well. Your mind-set should be: “I am who I am — if you like me, fine; if you don’t, so what?”

Aura
Bad Boys are all about seductive confidence and women appreciate confident lovers. So don’t be afraid to let your natural masculine sexuality shine. This doesn’t mean you ogle at females all day, but you should be comfortable in letting a woman know you’re attracted to her without being a jerk. And when it comes time, make sure you know what you’re doing in the bedroom.

Scarcity/Mystery
For women, guys who are too available are not attractive. Bad Boys are coldly independent — they aren’t desperately hovering around women, hoping to get some attention.

People want what they can’t have, and women are no different. So make yourself busy and scarce. Be an unpredictable, mystery man. Be a challenge — let her do some of the chasing.

Being too nice will ultimately hurt you in the end. Putting women on pedestals, agreeing with every word they utter, and paying for female company are things Bad Boys don’t do — because women see this as “weak”.

Be decisive in your words and actions; never second-guess yourself. voice your opinion and don’t worry about offending others.


Pretty simple eh? Funny how it does not mention treating women like shit. To sum it up in one word I would say confidence. Be confident in who you are, and again don't be a doormat. I guess after reading that I am a 'bad boy', just a nice one.
 
I've read stuff like that before player but you know, I've had many "bad boys" as friends in my life and to a one (except maybe for one) they are insecure babies inside. They may "act" like they could care less about any particular woman, but believe me, they cannot function in life without a flock or two chasing after them.

Seriously, leave them alone on an island for a week and they'd be blubbering babies in no time at all.......
 
It's a good outline, but there's a big element that it leaves out which goes directly to your point:
a 1 player said:
Funny how it does not mention treating women like shit.
From what I've seen, first-hand, many MANY women will put up with being treated like shit because the abusive boyfriend also manifests the character traits noted in the article. They have a hard time distinguishing between the "bad boy" that's got that indefinable edge and the "bad boy" who's just an abusive prick.

The author also goes to great pains to use the term "mystery."

While an element of mystery may appeal to 20-something girls, it's not even remotely appealing to more mature women. Mature women - and they can be of any age, chronology doesn't always enter into it - see it for what it is: a game. If you're lucky, they'll call you on it without hesitation. If not, they'll discard you from their short list and move on to someone else.