IDF Killed Daughters of Palestinian Doctor Working in Israel

[gryfin]

This is Israel's way of saying thank you. But this is not the icing on the cake..we'll get to that after.

Dr Izeldeen Abuelaish is a Palestinian doctor, living in Gaza, who works at an Israeli hospital helping to deliver babies.

While he was at home the Israeli's fired a shell into his home, killing his three daughters. The doctor had also been acting as a correspondent for an Israeli TV station so he called the station immediately after the attack.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7838465.stm

You can hear his anguish as it happened:

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=OLUJ4fF2HN4

The icing on the cake? The Israeli's trotted out their "The dog ate my homework" excuse and claimed that Hamas was in his house and firing at them.

 

[dj1470]

Have you no shame?
Gryfin, you're a ass.

 

[Gyaos]

The Israeli's trotted out their "The dog ate my homework"

But Ham-ass' excuse is the dog pissed on theirs.

Gyaos Baltar.

 

[guelph]

Have you no shame?
Gryfin, you're a ass.

The great debates are what I love about this forum

 

[basketcase]

Just for fun,

Italian paper: Gazans say Hamas kept them in homes used by gunmen

Palestinian civilians have accused Hamas of forcing them to stay in homes from which gunmen shot at Israeli soldiers during the recent hostilities in Gaza, the Italian newspaper Corriere della Sera reported Thursday.

More than 1,250 Palestinians were reportedly killed during Israel's offensive against Hamas in the coastal territory. Israel has been harshly criticized for the large number of civilians among the Palestinian dead, of whom they numbered more than half according Gaza officials.


But the Italian paper also quoted a doctor at Gaza City's Shifa Hospital as disputing the number of Palestinians said to have been killed in the campaign.

"It's possible that the death toll in Gaza was 500 or 600 at the most, mainly youths aged 17 to 23 who were enlisted by Hamas - who sent them to their deaths," he said.

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1057874.html

 

[hunter001]

Have you no shame?
Gryfin, you're a ass.

Hmmm... I don't get it. If it is a legitimate story I don't understand your comment. Terrible shit happens in war we all know that.

(Not that I don't think Gryfin is an ass... Just I don't understand your comment in this context.)

 

[gryfin]

Just for fun,


http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1057874.html

It's more than fun, it's a joke.

An unnamed doctor quoted by an unnamed reporter. Good enough for you.

Not surprising you would hang your hat on that considering your ongoing love affair with nut sites like CAMERA and MEMRI.

 

[The Prince]

Lol

those fiercely brave Hamas terrorists are indeed known for hiding amongst women and children, so I guess the inference can be made they were there. Why in the world do those dudes hide amongst women and children when they know they are being hunted and targeted??? Wouldn't true warriors avoid exactly that. I can't see a Samurai doing that, shit even the bloods and crypts don''t do that anymore. Now we know Hamas is about 1500 years behind time but come on. Take it like men and stay away from your women and children when you have a bullseye on your dumbass.

 

[slowandeasy]

Just for fun,


http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1057874.html

Basket, you need to stop sucking and blowing at the same time...

According to you, it is known that Hamas uses residential buildings to launch attacks. Hamas expects that Israel will target residential buildings, and hopes that Israel will kill many innocent civilians in the process. And of course Israel willingly complies.

Yet in the article, they try to claim that mainly Hamas fighters were killed.

That article seems to be full of shit...

 

[fuji]

An unnamed doctor quoted by an unnamed reporter. Good enough for you.

You admitted that Hamas uses human shields and even tried to call it vituous.

 

[fuji]

If the goal of your argument is to look at something the IDF did, then point out something some Hamas fighters did

The implication of Hamas forcing people to stay in homes from which they fired weapons is that many of the innocent civilians died that way. You could wonder if that is how the ones in this thread died, for example.

The implication is that Hamas is responsible for the deaths.

 

[slowandeasy]

Fyi

Basketcase and Fuji... please notice that I have stopped responding to gryfin and others like him when they post outlandish or false information. What is the point of responding to these guys everytime they post??? They continually switch arguments, change the topic, spin the answer, or simply ignore the facts and bait you into arguing with them. If you do that then the terrorists win because they are not rational.

I am not picking on you guys, I respond to you only because you seem like rational well meaning people. Sometimes when you reply to their bait, you end up saying some really silly things. Then it makes the people sitting on the sidelines wonder if you try to rationalize everything, how far will you take that????? Sometimes it is just best to say "yes sometimes Israel screws up" or "jewish people are not perfect, we make mistakes" (even if you have to say it to your most hated enemy... that "chosen people", my shit does not stink stuff gets old really quick...

 

[scouser1]

saying Hamas used human shields is absolutely wrong, the concept of human shields requires that the shooter actually cares about the lives of those being used as shields, which we clearly can see that the Israeli military didnt.

 

[Inferno]

saying Hamas used human shields is absolutely wrong, the concept of human shields requires that the shooter actually cares about the lives of those being used as shields, which we clearly can see that the Israeli military didnt.

Yes, they did. If they hadn't, there would have been MANY more civilian casualties.

Do you dispute that?

 

[gryfin]

Yes, they did. If they hadn't, there would have been MANY more civilian casualties.

Do you dispute that?

Yes. You made the assertion. Now prove it, sweetheart.

 

[fuji]

saying Hamas used human shields is absolutely wrong, the concept of human shields requires that the shooter actually cares about the lives of those being used as shields, which we clearly can see that the Israeli military didnt.

So you are saying Hamas uses human shields, but that the strategy is ineffective because the Israelis strike anyay.

There's probably a bit of truth in that, but only a bit: If it were true that IDF didn't care about Palestinian lives there would have been a fuck of a lot more casualties.

I think even you have to acknowledge that given the length of the conflict and the intensity of some of the bombings that having only 500-600 civilian casualties is pretty impressive.

 

[fuji]

Yes. You made the assertion. Now prove it, sweetheart.

So your typical apartment building has what--500 people living in it? More? Israel destroyed a couple of apartment buildings and yet the TOTAL casualties for the ENTIRE operation was only 500-600 civilian casualties.

Plainly they must have warned people out of the buildings first, as they say they did, or just one of those strikes would have added up to more than the entire number of civilians who were killed in the whole 20+ days.

Simple arithmetic...

 

[Inferno]

Yes. You made the assertion. Now prove it, sweetheart.

The proof is in the pudding (or rubble, if you will).

Israel only used a fraction of its military might in Gaza. Do you really doubt that if it had wanted to, it could have flattened the whole area and still had enough munitions left to raze the West Bank? They could have done it without losing a single soldier, too!

God, but you're thick... No wonder it's impossible to negotiate with your kind.

 

[gryfin]

The proof is in the pudding (or rubble, if you will).

Israel only used a fraction of its military might in Gaza. Do you really doubt that if it had wanted to, it could have flattened the whole area and still had enough munitions left to raze the West Bank? They could have done it without losing a single soldier, too!

God, but you're thick... No wonder it's impossible to negotiate with your kind.

I said proof, not opinion.

Try again, sweetheart.

 

[Inferno]

The proof is there, toots. You're just too thick to see it.