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baby_blue

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Canada was in a great position before the Tory took power. The over all individual's income hasn't increased since 2003. The Tory had increased child tax benefit, but child poverty in Canada remained relatively high. I could keep going on but the point is why are you guys still voting for Harper?
 

bver_hunter

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Because Junior is in fact campaigning on purposefully running deficits?

I the Conservatives did it while in a minority gov't during the crisis in stimulus spending. At the demands of the opposition.

That's what I would refer to as a short memory.
At least Trudeau is honest enough to talk about the deficits. On the other hand Use by Expiry Date Harpo, has never been transparent. He has always boasted about how strong an economy Canada has, that he created from the very day he took over. Yes, has he ever thanked the previous Liberal Government, for leaving him a surplus? Harpo did not say anything about the deficits and how long it would take to reverse it.
 

nottyboi

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Because Junior is in fact campaigning on purposefully running deficits?

I the Conservatives did it while in a minority gov't during the crisis in stimulus spending. At the demands of the opposition.

That's what I would refer to as a short memory.
Only needed because the squandered the massive surplus they inherited from the liberals ...
 

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Only needed because the squandered the massive surplus they inherited from the liberals ...
At the expense of Ontario,...which has yet to recover,...due to dumb ass people voting Fiberal,...who are by far,... the experts on squandering.

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Frankfooter

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At least Trudeau is honest enough to talk about the deficits. On the other hand Use by Expiry Date Harpo, has never been transparent. He has always boasted about how strong an economy Canada has, that he created from the very day he took over. Yes, has he ever thanked the previous Liberal Government, for leaving him a surplus? Harpo did not say anything about the deficits and how long it would take to reverse it.
And at least Trudeau plans on spending it on infrastructure, which is needed, instead of 'beer and popcorn' election trinkets designed to sucker voters in.
 

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And at least Trudeau plans on spending it on infrastructure, which is needed, instead of 'beer and popcorn' election trinkets designed to sucker voters in.
Which in the long term,...will accomplish,...NOTHING,...except dept.

But i realize that the left are all about today,...lets worry about tomorrow,...tomorrow.

I also realize that since you are not even middle class,...you will NOT benefit from your so called election trinkets,...too bad.

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nottyboi

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Which in the long term,...will accomplish,...NOTHING,...except dept.

But i realize that the left are all about today,...lets worry about tomorrow,...tomorrow.

I also realize that since you are not even middle class,...you will NOT benefit from your so called election trinkets,...too bad.

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How do you know it will accomplish nothing. If you believe that, maybe stop using infrastructure then. Don't take roads, stop using electricity and dig a hole in your yard to take a shit.
 

nottyboi

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At the expense of Ontario,...which has yet to recover,...due to dumb ass people voting Fiberal,...who are by far,... the experts on squandering.

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Maybe if Conservatives did not keep nominating candidates from special ed people would give them a shot.
 

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How do you know it will accomplish nothing. If you believe that, maybe stop using infrastructure then. Don't take roads, stop using electricity and dig a hole in your yard to take a shit.
Are you taking reading lessons from groggy,...???

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basketcase

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... Their hand was forced by the SCOC - people seem to forget the circumstances behind the law.....
Yet the law they drew up didn't have to be that way. They could have ensured that sex workers have their rights respected without criminalizing an act that was up till then legal. They quite simply used the court decision as an excuse to implement their public stated morality (though I'm sure the private morality of many includes an occasional brush with prostitution).
 

basketcase

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And at least Trudeau plans on spending it on infrastructure, which is needed,...
That's the problem. Canada (like the US) needs massive investment in infrastructure to even keep what we have functioning let alone build our capacity to a functional level for the future. Sadly we have what was mentioned earlier about voting against our interests. People love complaining that things the use are broken but go ape-shit if anyone suggests raising taxes. The world economy is struggling right now and oil costs are down so the government isn't going to be getting an influx of money in the next few years. Therefore we either need significant tax hikes, we need to run a deficit, or we should expect not to access the things we need.
 

Frankfooter

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Which in the long term,...will accomplish,...NOTHING,...except dept.
You think spending on infrastructure will accomplish nothing?

Perhaps we should make you drive under the Gardner every day for the next 5 years, while no repairs happen.
 

glamphotographer

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Yup she does but asshole Justin has said he will give 2 billion so the metrolinx can go forward. He wants to catch up fast. Canada will become another Greece if he gets in. Justin is living in a dream of the Trudeau name.

Liberals are fucking communists and anyone that votes for them, IMHO, supports communism.
Better move out out of Canada, we are about to become communists.
 

GPIDEAL

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funny you say that. The conservatives have mismanaged the economy worst than liberals. If you ran a business based on conservative platform, you are going out of business.

On the economy:

Canada loses nearly 46,000 jobs in December while US creates 74,000 jobs in December, unemployment rate up 0.3 percentage points to 7.2% http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/canada-loses-nearly-46-000-jobs-in-december-1.2491374?cmp=fbtl http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2014/01/10/unemployment-rate-canada_n_4574735.html

There were 1.32 million unemployed people in 2014, according to Statistics Canada data. That’s roughly 250,000 more than 2007 and about 200,000 more than 2008. http://www.unifor.org/sites/default/files/documents/document/909-harper_economic_critique_eng_0.pdf

Worst job creation since WW2 http://www.unifor.org/sites/default/files/documents/document/909-harper_economic_critique_eng_0.pdf

Ottawa to pay out $4.3-billion in compensation for lost revenue to farmers in wake of TPP deal http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/tpp-trade-deal-reached/article26648472/

As a result of Harper’s cuts to the GST, personal and corporate taxes, Ottawa now collects about $45 billion less revenue per year. http://www.thestar.com/opinion/commentary/2013/12/27/stephen_harpers_historic_taxcutting_legacy.html

Their new Conservative slogan, "Protect Our Economy", is classic dog-whistle politics, synthesizing security and the economy and subtly introducing racism into any discussion of our economic performance (We must protect ourselves from refugees and immigrants, who will bankrupt our economy and steal our jobs). https://www.facebook.com/richie.assaly/posts/10100696059678825

Harper's income splitting plan will only benefit 15% of Canadians – most of whom are wealthy – and will cost the government $2.4 billion dollars http://ottawacitizen.com/news/polit...-cent-of-households-higher-income-earners-pbo

Agreed.

It's all smoke and mirrors for the Harper Conservatives like you say.

They are cheap fuckers. And whatever they save, they sprinkle a few dollars back to INDIVIDUALS, to buy not only your vote but your personal liberties.
 
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