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"I’m Telling You, He Did It": Seymour Hersh Blames Biden For Nord Stream Attack

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"I’m Telling You, He Did It": Seymour Hersh Blames Biden For Nord Stream Attack


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16 March, 2023

Authored by Paul Joseph Watson via Summit News,

Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Seymour Hersh told the National Press Club in Washington, D.C. that Joe Biden made the decision to blow up Russia’s Nord Stream pipelines because he saw being a war president as giving him a better chance at re-election.




Last month, Hersh published a report asserting that the pipelines were destroyed by the US as part of a covert operation.

According to Hersh’s sources, the explosives were planted in June 2022 by US Navy divers under the guise of the BALTOPS 22 NATO exercise and were detonated three months later with a remote signal sent by a sonar buoy.

One source told Hersh that the plotters knew the covert operation was an “act of war,” with some in the CIA and State Department warning, “Don’t do this. It’s stupid and will be a political nightmare if it comes out.”

Last week, the New York Times reported that a “pro-Ukrainian group” had sabotaged the pipelines, using a team with as few as six people involved in the mission, contradicting previous assumptions that only a state would have had the resources to carry out the operation.

According to Hersh, referring to Biden, “He did it. He did it, I’m telling you, he did it," adding, "The Biden game is to wait it out and never say yes.

The journalist claimed that Biden wanted to escalate the conflict in order to position himself as a war president.


“I think Biden also saw beating up Russia as a ticket. Jack Kennedy is a classic example – presidents always did well politically in wars,” he said.

Hersh claimed that Biden made the decision in January 2022 to “see if we can find a way to blow… those pipelines, and put [the Russians] back in the dark ages.”

The Pulitzer-Prize winner went on to savage the legacy media for completely failing to follow up on his report that the U.S. was responsible for the attack, which took out three of the four pipelines.

Meanwhile, China has reacted with skepticism towards the explanation that a pro-Ukrainian group was responsible for the blasts.

During a press briefing, Foreign Ministry spokesman Wang Wenbin called for “an objective, impartial and professional investigation” into the bombing.

“We have noted that some Western media have been mysteriously quiet after Hersh reported that the US was behind the Nord Stream blast. But now these media are unusually simultaneous in making their voice heard. How would the US account for such abnormality? Is there anything hidden behind the scene?” Wang asked.

New reports also reveal that a German spy ship was in the area where the attack occurred at the time of the blasts on September 26.

According to a report by German magazine Der Spiegel, the CIA warned Berlin about a potential attack on gas pipelines in the Baltic Sea weeks before it happened.

As we highlighted yesterday, Russian President Vladimir Putin branded claims that the Nord Stream pipeline attack was the work of pro-Ukrainian activists “nonsense,” arguing the blasts must have been carried out by a state power.
 

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Or it were these folks.

Honestly, I think Hersh's theory seems more plausible than the "yacht" one.

The whole "it was pro-Ukrainian people without any ties to any state actors" feels very much like bullshit in that it lets no one really be blamed.
We will see as evidence rolls out, but I'm dubious.
 
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Honestly, I think Hersh's theory seems more plausible than the "yacht" one.

The whole "it was pro-Ukrainian people without any ties to any state actors" feels very much like bullshit in that it lets no one really be blamed.
We will see as evidence rolls out, but I'm dubious.
George Galloway calls it: two snorkelers on a sailboat.
 

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"I’m Telling You, He Did It": Seymour Hersh Blames Biden For Nord Stream Attack


Published
16 March, 2023

Authored by Paul Joseph Watson via Summit News,

Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Seymour Hersh told the National Press Club in Washington, D.C. that Joe Biden made the decision to blow up Russia’s Nord Stream pipelines because he saw being a war president as giving him a better chance at re-election.




Last month, Hersh published a report asserting that the pipelines were destroyed by the US as part of a covert operation.

According to Hersh’s sources, the explosives were planted in June 2022 by US Navy divers under the guise of the BALTOPS 22 NATO exercise and were detonated three months later with a remote signal sent by a sonar buoy.

One source told Hersh that the plotters knew the covert operation was an “act of war,” with some in the CIA and State Department warning, “Don’t do this. It’s stupid and will be a political nightmare if it comes out.”

Last week, the New York Times reported that a “pro-Ukrainian group” had sabotaged the pipelines, using a team with as few as six people involved in the mission, contradicting previous assumptions that only a state would have had the resources to carry out the operation.

According to Hersh, referring to Biden, “He did it. He did it, I’m telling you, he did it," adding, "The Biden game is to wait it out and never say yes.

The journalist claimed that Biden wanted to escalate the conflict in order to position himself as a war president.


“I think Biden also saw beating up Russia as a ticket. Jack Kennedy is a classic example – presidents always did well politically in wars,” he said.

Hersh claimed that Biden made the decision in January 2022 to “see if we can find a way to blow… those pipelines, and put [the Russians] back in the dark ages.”

The Pulitzer-Prize winner went on to savage the legacy media for completely failing to follow up on his report that the U.S. was responsible for the attack, which took out three of the four pipelines.

Meanwhile, China has reacted with skepticism towards the explanation that a pro-Ukrainian group was responsible for the blasts.

During a press briefing, Foreign Ministry spokesman Wang Wenbin called for “an objective, impartial and professional investigation” into the bombing.

“We have noted that some Western media have been mysteriously quiet after Hersh reported that the US was behind the Nord Stream blast. But now these media are unusually simultaneous in making their voice heard. How would the US account for such abnormality? Is there anything hidden behind the scene?” Wang asked.

New reports also reveal that a German spy ship was in the area where the attack occurred at the time of the blasts on September 26.

According to a report by German magazine Der Spiegel, the CIA warned Berlin about a potential attack on gas pipelines in the Baltic Sea weeks before it happened.

As we highlighted yesterday, Russian President Vladimir Putin branded claims that the Nord Stream pipeline attack was the work of pro-Ukrainian activists “nonsense,” arguing the blasts must have been carried out by a state power.
He lost his credibility when:

The Nord Stream report is not the first time Seymour Hersh has stirred controversy. In 2013, he refuted Western government accusations that Syrian President Bashar al-Assad ordered the chemical weapon attack on Ghuta, a suburb of Damascus. Hersh placed the blame on Syrian rebels. “I wrote a story full of reasons why [the Syrian Army] may not have been responsible [for the attack], but the story wasn’t picked up in the US,” Hersh said in a 2019 interview with EL PAÍS. Two years later, he wrote in the London Review of Books that the US and Pakistan had lied about the circumstances leading to Osama Bin Laden’s death. Hersh’s use of anonymous and indirect sources in that report raised suspicions and marked a turning point in his career – he became an outsider. No longer the objective, impartial reporter, Hersh began to take sides. Two significant articles – the Syrian chemical attack and Bin Laden’s death – were rejected by The New Yorker, a notoriously scrupulous fact-checker.

Challenging official statements with credible information from anonymous sources, especially in sensitive cases, has long been Hersh’s stock in trade and a relevant investigative exercise. While many today consider this borderline disinformation, Hersh hasn’t given an inch. “I will gladly allow history to judge my recent work,” he wrote in Reporter: A Memoir (2018).

Hersh writes about his childhood and working in the family laundry business in his memoir. He attributes his inquisitive nature to his parents, immigrants from Eastern Europe, and passed that on to his investigative journalist son. He describes himself in Reporter as a “survivor of a golden age in journalism.” It was a time when “we did not have to compete with 24-hour news channels, newspapers were awash with advertising revenue, and I was free to travel as much as I wanted,” he said. Journalists could focus on revealing “important and inconvenient truths,” said Hersch, who has taken pride in doing just that for 60 years.

His main regrets are the stories he never reported, like Richard Nixon’s 1974 beating of his wife, Pat, after the Watergate scandal forced him to resign the presidency. According to Hersh, it wasn’t the first time. Hersh had direct information from the hospital where Pat Nixon was treated, but at the time, he believed the president’s private conduct had not affected his public service. Hersh has always regretted the mistake.

Hersh is not the only renowned journalist who has seen his reputation tarnished. Consider the challenges to Polish journalist Ryszard Kapuściński’s veracity as a reporter, British journalist Robert Fisk’s purported favoritism toward the Syrian government, or Italian reporter Oriana Fallaci’s personal relationship with a Lebanese warlord while reporting on the country’s civil strife. But all of these reporters have died, and only a few representatives of the golden age of American journalism are still alive – Bob Woodward and Carl Bernstein of Watergate fame, and Hersh. They are the chroniclers of the arcana of official and unofficial history and stories that were never told. They are the last vestiges of a profession increasingly fractured by the battle between critics and apologists.
 

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Of course the Americans did it. Duh! The only question is how are there people out there who don't believe it?
 
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Honestly, I think Hersh's theory seems more plausible than the "yacht" one.

The whole "it was pro-Ukrainian people without any ties to any state actors" feels very much like bullshit in that it lets no one really be blamed.
We will see as evidence rolls out, but I'm dubious.
Except Hersh's theory has already been debunked.
This is just as unlikely but it hasn't been disproven yet.
 

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Except Hersh's theory has already been debunked.
This is just as unlikely but it hasn't been disproven yet.
For the love of God, give it up, Frankie. You have proven your loyalty to the Americans.
 
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There are other threads on this one, do your homework.
I don't come here for information. Post a link with the "newest" leaks from the CIA. You know the one, where they tried to give credit to Ukraine. 😆 🤣 😂
 

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ROTFLMFAO!! I'm not going to debate what Hersh said. I've arrived at my conclusion long before he published anything by listening to Biden and his flacks, knowing geography and the capabilities of the nation states in the area. Above all, it's patently obvious who gains from the destruction and why it's been kept a secret. Use your brain, Franky.
 

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Except Hersh's theory has already been debunked.
This is just as unlikely but it hasn't been disproven yet.
I don't remember it being debunked.
I remember people pointing out it had one sketchy anonymous source and some specific elements didn't hold up well to known public info.
Looking at your link I see there is more counter evidence out now, though.

I would say that Hersh's exact description has had a lot of holes in it, although I am not sure I would say it has been completely debunked.

Neither theory seems to hold up very well to available information.
 

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Cripes to pull off an underwater operation with a pretty massive set of explosive charges takes tech and training/experience. This is a major untertaking to get right, make sure your people don't get hurt, and you get away without leaving direct evidence behind.

How many nations have all the boxes checked in their navies to pull this off?
 

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ROTFLMFAO!! I'm not going to debate what Hersh said. I've arrived at my conclusion long before he published anything by listening to Biden and his flacks, knowing geography and the capabilities of the nation states in the area. Above all, it's patently obvious who gains from the destruction and why it's been kept a secret. Use your brain, Franky.
Ah yes, jcpro has decided and nothing can sway that decision.
Not evidence, facts or anything.

I don't remember it being debunked.
I remember people pointing out it had one sketchy anonymous source and some specific elements didn't hold up well to known public info.
Looking at your link I see there is more counter evidence out now, though.

I would say that Hersh's exact description has had a lot of holes in it, although I am not sure I would say it has been completely debunked.

Neither theory seems to hold up very well to available information.
I think we had this discussion before and there was enough doubt in Hersh's single source story along with a couple of key 'facts' that didn't fly to consider it debunked.
 
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Cripes to pull off an underwater operation with a pretty massive set of explosive charges takes tech and training/experience. This is a major untertaking to get right, make sure your people don't get hurt, and you get away without leaving direct evidence behind.

How many nations have all the boxes checked in their navies to pull this off?
Especially right after the Americans "exercised" with their allies in the Baltic. They even made a courtesy visit to Gdansk, the largest American Navy vessel to ever enter the port. The only problem I see is that it was not exactly subtle. Americans wanted Putin to know.
 
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