hypothetical question

[jerk chicken]

Just a hypothetical question... with all the worries about STDs and stuff, is it possible to PAY an SP to be exclusive with you? like if you had so much money from business or lottery win. This is not marriage I'm talking about, because even in marraige, wife can cheat. This is strictly business relation where the lady can only have sex with you, Bareback everything of course because you are her only partner. She can still lead her own life, doing her own stuff, but just no sex with anyone else either as an SP or in her personal life. This is to be enforced somehow, so she will have very limited privacy, probably always followed by a "personal assistant" wherever she goes. or some kind of eletronic tracking device to know where she is at... just hypothetical... not sure even if this is legal.
If so, for how much money are ladies willing to do this? especially SPs are not such a lucrative career right now, I'd imagine $100k a year will attract a lot of takers??

 

[genintoronto]

For $5,500, you can get a standard model that is guaranteed to not cheat on you or infect you with anything.

More seriously, most sex workers have a life outside of sex work. Actually, most do sex work to sustain said life. The kind of "arrangement" that you are talking about would interfere quite drastically with their life, and for this reason alone, I doubt that anyone would enter this kind of "arrangement" freely.

 

[Noir]

Just a hypothetical question... with all the worries about STDs and stuff, is it possible to PAY an SP to be exclusive with you?

She can still lead her own life, doing her own stuff, but just no sex with anyone else either as an SP or in her personal life.

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This is to be enforced somehow, so she will have very limited privacy, probably always followed by a "personal assistant" wherever she goes. or some kind of eletronic tracking device to know where she is at... just hypothetical... not sure even if this is legal.

....are you kidding me? lol.

Give up my privacy, personal freedoms to be with one guy who has someone following me around to make sure I don't do anything 'wrong' or have a tracking device tethered to my leg to ensure that I don't 'mess up'? I'd also have to be available at the drop of a hat for sex since no one in their right mind would pay X amount of dollars for sex when I'm not feeling frisky... For how much? lol... Where do I sign?!

As Gen said, most ladies have a life outside of this business and are in this business to sustain/maintain a flexible lifestyle. I would be concerned if anyone would openly/knowingly accept this offer to become a sex slave - who, (by the way) would still have no guarantees that you aren't fooling around with others. There would still be a risk of STD's stemming on your part.

Darn, I keep forgetting....Don't feed the trolls...

 

[jerk chicken]

For $5,500, you can get a standard model that is guaranteed to not cheat on you or infect you with anything.

More seriously, most sex workers have a life outside of sex work. Actually, most do sex work to sustain said life. The kind of "arrangement" that you are talking about would interfere quite drastically with their life, and for this reason alone, I doubt that anyone would enter this kind of "arrangement" freely.

you mean most sex workers have a SEX life outside work? They can still go to school or even have a normal job, have friends, whatever, but no sex with anyone else. I guess my question is how much is enough for them to give up sex with any other men??? okay, maybe protected sex allowed, but it is probbly impossible to enforce.

 

[genintoronto]

I meant what I said: most sex workers have a life outside of sex work, and yes, that usually includes sex outside of work.

As Noir told you, one of the significant perk of sex work is the flexibility of it and being your own boss: both perks get lost in your hypothetical arrangement.

Your hypothetical scenario also conveniently brush over an important fact: your own health is your responsibility alone. Which means that the only way to protect your health is through your own behavior and practices. You don't want to get an STDs or HIV/AIDS? Don't have sex, have only unprotected sex with trusted and uninfected partners, practice safer sex practices, don't engage in riskier sexual activities, etc. But trying to control other people's behavior is impossible and wishful thinking at best, and dangerously delusional thinking at worst.

 

[Mrbig1949]

It is called a mistress, a particular kind of working girl who has one rich dude who kinda takes care of her sugar daddy style. Frank Sinatra is said to have had about 3 going at any one time. Sometimes they even have another job but through the relationship get such things as the free apartment, the fur coats in the past, the jewellery, the trips etc. He may think she is exclusive to him but these mistress' often have a BF her own age and she is playing the geezer.

 

[Kyra.Graves]

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Darn, I keep forgetting....Don't feed the trolls...

When will you ladies learn, escorts are not individuals your mind, body and soul can all be had for a price.

Speaking of prices, the current National Average for Sex Slave is $68K per annum and the National Average salary for Sex Slave Minder (the guy that keeps her in line) is $45k per annum. Of course it is cheaper to install the electronic tracking device, I hear apple will be releasing a new model soon that you intall under her left breast called the iSlut. :-}
Of course rates are higher in larger metropolitan areas and lower in rural areas, hope that helps!

 

[jiiimmm]

for several hundred thousand dollars you can get yourself a wife. No guarantee about not having sex with anyone else including you. But it will feel exclusive, at least for a while.

 

[Cycleguy007]

Don't feed the trolls indeed!

LMFAO! At this thread too!!! WTF is going on here today?

To the OP... this guy has your only solution:

If you're so concerned about catching something just chop off your penis

Or get the Doll that Gen suggested...

I would have suggested you get a wife like Mrs. Cycleguy, but she would be too good for the likes of you! Not only that, but with YOUR attitude, you would never get close to a woman like that...

 

[jerk chicken]

oh yeah! cycleguy it's personal now. I will make my life's work to seduce your wife! we'll see! hahahahah

lighten up ppl, it was just hypothetical question... even i said it is probably not realistic or legal. just for fun of it

 

[Cycleguy007]

oh yeah! cycleguy it's personal now. I will make my life's work to seduce your wife! we'll see! hahahahah

lighten up ppl, it was just hypothetical question... even i said it is probably not realistic or legal. just for fun of it

LOL... Good luck with that... lemme know how it works out for you. She's a Bar-tender and knows how to deal with "your" type LOL!

Besides... awwww... fawgettaboutit...

 

[Ironhead]

Well of course it is possible. Yes it sounds wierd, but it is possible and JK was speaking hypothetically. As far as a tracking device and the legal issue, if she agrees to wear it ... what legal issue.



So lets say someone, I will use myself in this example, gave it a try.

Just playing along ...
I would have to be making some serious coin to pull this off, which I do not.
The woman would enter into the contract(?) willingly for X amount of money, he(JK) mentioned $100,000. I will bump it up to $150,000.
That said I do not see where the term sex slave would fit. She enters in to contract willingly and gets $150,000 yearly salary. She would have to agree to no other sex partners and no drug use period, other then RX of course.

Furthermore ...
I would give her four weeks holidays per year, can only take two weeks at a time and at least four months apart. Maybe after several years holidays can increase to six weeks a year. This would be aside from taking her along on trips with me, that would be part of her "job".

I would supply ...
Her own condo.
A clothing budget(to be worked out, I would be generous).
Nice car, Audi R8 or BMW 6 series or better.
Dental and medical, anything not covered by OHIP.
Two cell phones, one for her personal use and I alone would have the number to the other cell.


She would not have to be available 24/7.

She would have to carry the cell ...
Mon -Thurs 10am - Mid-night daily.
24 hrs / 10am Fri - Sun mid-night
Over night stays would be arranged several days in advance.

This was just an out line, there may be some other things to be worked out.




So for $150,000 yearly salary.
A condo.
A car.
Clothes, cell.
Med/Den.
Paid vacation.

The successful applicant would have to work about 2-3 hours per night, four nights a week.
Possible seven nights with a few overnighters in the first six months.

 

[jerk chicken]

heheheh finally someone gets it

plus it is not sex slavery, she can quit anytime, i just stop paying her. she cannot have sex with any other guy only for the duration of contract, besides i'd probably want to hire a different girl every year or so

 

[Kyra.Graves]

Well of course it is possible. Yes it sounds wierd, but it is possible and JK was speaking hypothetically. As far as a tracking device and the legal issue, if she agrees to wear it ... what legal issue.



So lets say someone, I will use myself in this example, gave it a try.

Just playing along ...
I would have to be making some serious coin to pull this off, which I do not.
The woman would enter into the contract(?) willingly for X amount of money, he(JK) mentioned $100,000. I will bump it up to $150,000.
That said I do not see where the term sex slave would fit. She enters in to contract willingly and gets $150,000 yearly salary. She would have to agree to no other sex partners and no drug use period, other then RX of course.

Furthermore ...
I would give her four weeks holidays per year, can only take two weeks at a time and at least four months apart. Maybe after several years holidays can increase to six weeks a year. This would be aside from taking her along on trips with me, that would be part of her "job".

I would supply ...
Her own condo.
A clothing budget(to be worked out, I would be generous).
Nice car, Audi R8 or BMW 6 series or better.
Dental and medical, anything not covered by OHIP.
Two cell phones, one for her personal use and I alone would have the number to the other cell.


She would not have to be available 24/7.

She would have to carry the cell ...
Mon -Thurs 10am - Mid-night daily.
24 hrs / 10am Fri - Sun mid-night
Over night stays would be arranged several days in advance.

This was just an out line, there may be some other things to be worked out.




So for $150,000 yearly salary.
A condo.
A car.
Clothes, cell.
Med/Den.
Paid vacation.

The successful applicant would have to work about 2-3 hours per night, four nights a week.
Possible seven nights with a few overnighters in the first six months.

You are being sarcastic right?
Honestly I can't tell if it's sarcasm.

I'm not an expert in contract law or HR and even I know that you'd have some serious issues trying to enforce any contract where you contracted sexual services for pay. Even if you were to draw up the contract in a place where such services are legal enforcing it here would not be and she'd have the right to refuse.
Add to that the possible issues of having a 'tracking device' or someone else assigned to watch her which is why people became offended at the idea of a sex slave and yes you'd be facing some serious issues.
Just imagine trying to explain to customs why you, your sex partner and her keeper are travelling together - the UN would have a field day with you as you would be walking a fine line with human trafficking laws, if you have someone watching her then wouldn't she by definition be under duress, she has no freewill as you have someone who's sole job is to take that away.

I believe if he wanted to discuss an exclusive relationship it might be better done by talking about a "mistress" where the female party is a willing participant rather than an object tethered to a tracking device or with muscle watching them 24/7 to ensure they have no freedom of choice. That's what makes it slavery, even at our jobs everyday we have a certain amount of freedom of choice; a Starbucks barrista can go home at the end of the day, can use the washroom without a monitor and can call their mother without their boss listening in. The scenario proposed the female cannot and that is a slave in which no being should be subjected to.

 

[toughb]

"trying to enforce any contract where you contracted sexual services for pay. Even if you were to draw up the contract in a place where such services are legal enforcing it here would not be and she'd have the right to refuse."
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Such a contract is legally enforceable in the Prov. of Ont. as long as it does not try and overwrite an existing law and is a contract for legally acceptable services. In other words "companion".

The contract would most likely be null and void in other parts of the world including the US.

As far as the rest. Forget it.

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[Ironhead]

Kyra, I was not being sarcastic, but also not serious.

It is/was just a game sort of, but I will try and explain further(In case I ever win $50 mil ... lol).

As far as the tracking device goes I said " IF SHE AGREES TO WEAR IT ... WHAT LEGAL ISSUE " !!!!
I did forget to say that I would not even suggest that she wear a device like that nor would I have a third tracker person. She would be on her honour.


As for the contract, again it is hypothetical, plus "she would enter into the contract willingly". There would be a opt out for both her and I if things were not as we thought they would be.
Understand that part more then any other. The woman would be like a Unrestricted Free Agent in sports, free(in spirit) to sign where ever she wants to 'play'.

As for crossing borders and other legal issues, why in the hell would anyone tell them the truth? As far as they are concerned we are a couple traveling together. If our IDs check out and our passports are valid ... what the fuck.

If you work in an office or car plant or whatever you have to be there upwards of eight hour/day(40 hrs/wk), start and finish at a certain time, for a lot less then $150,000 per year.
So, as long as you are ready and willing to go 2-3 hrs/day, four days a week(8-12 hrs/wk), I will pay you $150,000 yearly and provide what I listed above. In addition to the perks it works out to be about $260/hr, if I max out at three hour sessions, four times per week. I doubt I would go the max, I am in my late 40s.

 

[GotGusto]

 

[a 1 player]

Here is a better idea for the original poster.

Get a nice girlfriend, and enter an exclusive committed relationship. Yes, women like this do exist. It is a win/win situation for both you and her.

Of course, that would require actually going out and dating.

 

[Riley.Royal]

Some Sugar Daddies out there try and be exclusive with their SPs by paying for their life and in hopes of them being faithful to them. but you can only really only take care of yourself and practice safe sex and put your foot down on what sexual acts you will not perform.

 

[john frankly]

I would be concerned if anyone would openly/knowingly accept this offer to become a [sex slave who, (by the way) would still have no guarantees that you aren't fooling around with others.

Hmmm! Isn't there a law against this under human trafficking LOL ...just joking here