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toguy5252

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No insurrection, just a riot.

The police can handle a few hundred people rioting and wanting to delay a vote. You should see what is necessary to actually overthrow a government.

Same old frauds, faking a riot as an attempt to overthrow the government.
Of course it was just a little harmless fun. What's the big deal. It was just a few hundred trying to overthrow the government and hang the VP. Oh those whacky pranksters.
 
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basketcase

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... A few people riot and they want you to believe that it was an attempt to takeover the government and start ruling the country.

Does taking over a capitol building really equate to a coup attempt. Be honest. Yes or No.
Yes. A group trying to use violence to make Trump the unelected leader is pretty much the definition of insurrection.

Neither their stupidity nor their failure changes what they were trying to do.


(but I'm sure that czar now thinks these guys should be kept in jail forever to prevent them from reoffending)
 

mandrill

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In and of itself, no?
But the coup attempt wasn't limited to taking over the capitol building, as you know.
I'd argue, yes. By analogy, was the Storming of the Bastille an attempt to overthrow the French monarchy?... Fuck, yes! It's impossible to argue that an attempt to storm the seat of government was not an attempted coup.

The problem was that January 6 was inept and idiotic. But that just means it was an incompetent coup attempt. What if they had found and killed Pelosi? Or Pence?
 

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I'd argue, yes. By analogy, was the Storming of the Bastille an attempt to overthrow the French monarchy?... Fuck, yes! It's impossible to argue that an attempt to storm the seat of government was not an attempted coup.

The problem was that January 6 was inept and idiotic. But that just means it was an incompetent coup attempt. What if they had found and killed Pelosi? Or Pence?
They actually came much closer to pulling it off than people realize.
Their goal was to delay the proceedings to the point they weren't complete and put more pressure on Pence to do what Trump wanted. (Some also thought - sill think, even - that the way the law is written means that if it wasn't completed by midnight it didn't count.)

Anything to put enough confusion about the results in play that it could get kicked to the house or the Supreme Court would have to step in.

They did a fairly good job of that. They delayed it for hours, they put people in fear of their lives, which could have swayed votes enough to get things called off.
Pence was encouraged to leave but didn't, which means the delay didn't last days, which it might have otherwise.

So yes, it was a last ditch crazy bank shot approach because earlier pressure hadn't gotten him where he needed, but even under those terms it accomplished a lot of what it set out to do.
 

mandrill

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They actually came much closer to pulling it off than people realize.
Their goal was to delay the proceedings to the point they weren't complete and put more pressure on Pence to do what Trump wanted. (Some also thought - sill think, even - that the way the law is written means that if it wasn't completed by midnight it didn't count.)

Anything to put enough confusion about the results in play that it could get kicked to the house or the Supreme Court would have to step in.

They did a fairly good job of that. They delayed it for hours, they put people in fear of their lives, which could have swayed votes enough to get things called off.
Pence was encouraged to leave but didn't, which means the delay didn't last days, which it might have otherwise.

So yes, it was a last ditch crazy bank shot approach because earlier pressure hadn't gotten him where he needed, but even under those terms it accomplished a lot of what it set out to do.
Still a very remote long shot. Much as the SCotUS loves to slap down liberals and push the far right Christian agenda, it showed no appetite for Trump and his election litigation krakens.
 
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mandrill

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Yeah, yeah.

Another fraud with no detail.
Actually, Valc explained how the coup almost succeeded in pretty full detail. Wouldn't you agree?
 
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Czar

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Actually, Valc explained how the coup almost succeeded in pretty full detail. Wouldn't you agree?
I probably missed that.

I remember these tweets by trump:

“I am asking for everyone at the U.S. Capitol to remain peaceful. No violence! Remember, WE are the Party of Law & Order – respect the Law and our great men and women in Blue. Thank you!”

“Please support our Capitol Police and Law Enforcement. They are truly on the side of our Country. Stay peaceful!”

“You have to go home now. We have to have peace,”


Now, I do remember the fake dossier and the attempt to remove the president over it. Funny, there was so much coverage about it and now the lefties don't seem to ever mention the dossier(and there is a trial going on right now over part of it). Why?

Because they are frauds.
 
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So yes, it was a last ditch crazy bank shot approach because earlier pressure hadn't gotten him where he needed, but even under those terms it accomplished a lot of what it set out to do.
Just as crazy as the idea that Mike Pence may have saved America's democracy.
 

mandrill

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I probably missed that.

I remember these tweets by trump:

“I am asking for everyone at the U.S. Capitol to remain peaceful. No violence! Remember, WE are the Party of Law & Order – respect the Law and our great men and women in Blue. Thank you!”

“Please support our Capitol Police and Law Enforcement. They are truly on the side of our Country. Stay peaceful!”

“You have to go home now. We have to have peace,”


Now, I do remember the fake dossier and the attempt to remove the president over it. Funny, there was so much coverage about it and now the lefties don't seem to ever mention the dossier(and there is a trial going on right now over part of it). Why?

Because they are frauds.
Post a link, so I can see that, Czar.
 

NotADcotor

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Post a link, so I can see that, Czar.
So after he got the violence he wanted he finally got around to posting something to cover his ass should he get in trouble while leaving his special [needs] supporters to go fuck themselves.


Also, so what, if Bernardo posts that it is important to respect women, he suddenly doesn't become a rapist murderer?
 
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Who cares about Hunter? I'd do what he's doing if I got the resources to do it...
 
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basketcase

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Yeah, yeah.

Another fraud with no detail.
Details like...
Yes. A group trying to use violence to make Trump the unelected leader is pretty much the definition of insurrection.

Neither their stupidity nor their failure changes what they were trying to do.


(but I'm sure that czar now thinks these guys should be kept in jail forever to prevent them from reoffending)
 

basketcase

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...

I remember these tweets by trump:
...
What time did these tweets go out? How long did it take for his staff to force him to make a statement?

And who got these idiots all riled up to fight for Trump?


I wonder if you know the definition of the term "fraud".
 
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Czar

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What time did these tweets go out? How long did it take for his staff to force him to make a statement?
Let us know. Trump repeatedly called for peacefulness and law and order. The frauds never tell you that. Just the power of fraudulent suggestion.

Fake news.
 

Czar

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So after he got the violence he wanted he finally got around to posting something to cover his ass should he get in trouble while leaving his special [needs] supporters to go fuck themselves.


Also, so what, if Bernardo posts that it is important to respect women, he suddenly doesn't become a rapist murderer?
Trump said at the rally to march peacefully. which was prior to the riot. The frauds do their best to ignore this. They hate that he asked for peaceful protest because it ruins their fraudulent lies.

What Bernardo said after his crimes are irrelevant as a comparison, unless you ask the frauds.
 
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