Not everyone can be that strong though. One thing I'm wondering is if the OP's friend has genuine feelings for the SP or is it an addiction for lack of a better word. I think the OP's concern is that his friend is not able or just not wanting to come back to his SO (assuming he has one.) There's still a financial and emotional cost to pursuing this relationship with the SP. At minimum, he'll have to deal with her sleeping with other guys.
how to separate feelings for a SP?
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So how do you explain real friendships that grow into beautiful relationships through this industry. How do you explain some clients who end up marrying the girls from this industry. How do you explain platonic relationships that form from this industry. There are ppl on Terb here have formed some sort of relationship with an industry girl. Just because you don't know does not mean it does not happen. Does this mean the they seek it out, does it mean that they are losers who can't form a normal relationship in real life. Answer is no. We are people, we are emotional and sometimes we form relationships. If you read my response you will see that I mentioned that it is very rare and I did not say that I encourage people to seek this. My message is don't run from it.
However, thinking that everybody is a bitter soul like your self, or abuses or takes advantage of industry women or is seeking some sort of real relationship for money is very arrogant and ignorant. Many of us do not live in your world, but are happy ppl living a normal life with a few things missing we find a way to substitute from this business. Sometimes shit happens and you develop feelings, so why run from it. We are human beings emotional and capable of complex relationships. Just because you can't understand this does not mean that it does not happen. Be mature and learn about the power of exploring your emotional potential.
However, thinking that everybody is a bitter soul like your self, or abuses or takes advantage of industry women or is seeking some sort of real relationship for money is very arrogant and ignorant. Many of us do not live in your world, but are happy ppl living a normal life with a few things missing we find a way to substitute from this business. Sometimes shit happens and you develop feelings, so why run from it. We are human beings emotional and capable of complex relationships. Just because you can't understand this does not mean that it does not happen. Be mature and learn about the power of exploring your emotional potential.
I feel sorry for those who confuse paid intimacy with normal social interaction. I also feel sorry for SP & MPA's subjected to unwanted emotional burdens from individuals incapable of social interactions with a female and then use paid service providers as emotional surrogates. Thank God when I am old and frail I will have no regrets that I had complete fulfillment in the enjoyment of the services I paid for and never wasted my life in confusing the services with the real life experiences that were shared and not purchased.
Tell him to spend ten minutes daydreaming about all the special, intimate moments he's shared with her. Then tell him to got out in a busy street and picture her sharing those exact same special, intimate moments with every guy he passes, cos chances are every one of them can buy the same fantasy with her. If she offers to see him off the meter, that's different. Till then, he's just another passing John.
Why is because the odds are stacked heavily against unicorns and rainbows.So how do you explain real friendships that grow into beautiful relationships through this industry. How do you explain some clients who end up marrying the girls from this industry. How do you explain platonic relationships that form from this industry. There are ppl on Terb here have formed some sort of relationship with an industry girl. Just because you don't know does not mean it does not happen. Does this mean the they seek it out, does it mean that they are losers who can't form a normal relationship in real life. Answer is no. We are people, we are emotional and sometimes we form relationships. If you read my response you will see that I mentioned that it is very rare and I did not say that I encourage people to seek this. My message is don't run from it.
However, thinking that everybody is a bitter soul like your self, or abuses or takes advantage of industry women or is seeking some sort of real relationship for money is very arrogant and ignorant. Many of us do not live in your world, but are happy ppl living a normal life with a few things missing we find a way to substitute from this business. Sometimes shit happens and you develop feelings, so why run from it. We are human beings emotional and capable of complex relationships. Just because you can't understand this does not mean that it does not happen. Be mature and learn about the power of exploring your emotional potential.
Yes, happily ever happens, but it may not be easy and it may well involve a version of the fairy tale that you never read in storybooks.
I agree that running may not be the best for everyone, but I would advise strongly against looking for it here.
Don't need to. Just use the search function and read her reviews. That'll be a dick-slap to the forehead for ya!Tell him to spend ten minutes daydreaming about all the special, intimate moments he's shared with her. Then tell him to got out in a busy street and picture her sharing those exact same special, intimate moments with every guy he passes, cos chances are every one of them can buy the same fantasy with her. If she offers to see him off the meter, that's different. Till then, he's just another passing John.
Some guys might marry or get into a serious relationship with an SP / porn star, but can it last? They might be fine for a while, but jealously and greed often gets the better of people. I don't think it's impossible to make such relationships work, but it is an additional strain knowing that one person (or both) is a sex worker / porn star.So how do you explain real friendships that grow into beautiful relationships through this industry. How do you explain some clients who end up marrying the girls from this industry. How do you explain platonic relationships that form from this industry. There are ppl on Terb here have formed some sort of relationship with an industry girl. Just because you don't know does not mean it does not happen. Does this mean the they seek it out, does it mean that they are losers who can't form a normal relationship in real life. Answer is no. We are people, we are emotional and sometimes we form relationships. If you read my response you will see that I mentioned that it is very rare and I did not say that I encourage people to seek this. My message is don't run from it.
Platonic relationships are fine too, as long as they stay that way. The lines blur when a guy is paying for the girl's time sex or not.
If you're single, then forming a relationship (be it sexual, platonic, or marriage) shouldn't be a problem as long as it doesn't interfere with your work or the rest of your life. If you're in a serious relationship or married, then you have to be careful.
Nothing wrong with enjoying her company and showing affection. For me, that's kind of the point. But it has to be clear to her that there's no further expectations and you understand it's a business that ends at the door. There's a professional boundary, paid for, finite.There is nothing wrong with feelings. I can't believe some of you are so scared to show some emotion to an SP or MPA even though you feel it. What is wrong with this exactly? ...
You guys get too hung up on the physical stuff. Yes, she gets naked with other guys. You knew that going in. That's probably the easiest stuff to deal with in the big picture.
Industry relationships are difficult because of the tremendous baggage that inevitably accumulates with women who work the biz. Everything from the obvious (trust issues) to the surprising (intimacy; yes, she can fuck your brains out, but she is totally uncomfortable with making love or cuddling). It's just...complex.
Industry relationships are difficult because of the tremendous baggage that inevitably accumulates with women who work the biz. Everything from the obvious (trust issues) to the surprising (intimacy; yes, she can fuck your brains out, but she is totally uncomfortable with making love or cuddling). It's just...complex.
She might be interested in him socially. Tell him to ask her if she would like to meet him outside of an escort arrangement. If she likes him too she'll says yes, but if she's not interested she'll say no. In general, we don't date the people we have as clients, but we're not heartless monsters.
I mean, if she doesn't have feelings for the guy she'll definitely make it clear that any time they spend together would have to be paid time. It's not likely she'll be interested, but it's not impossible. Im my experience, the best decision I ever made was to hang out with someone who started out as a client. He's my best friend now. We have a ton of things in common and I enjoy having him around.
I mean, if she doesn't have feelings for the guy she'll definitely make it clear that any time they spend together would have to be paid time. It's not likely she'll be interested, but it's not impossible. Im my experience, the best decision I ever made was to hang out with someone who started out as a client. He's my best friend now. We have a ton of things in common and I enjoy having him around.
I have a friend too.
Tell your friend: she's a professional and is not interested in you socially. You have two choices: one is to keep seeing her, spending money, getting more attached, and setting yourself up for a bigger fall when it finally ends. Option two is to respectfully let the lady know that you have these feelings and that you know she can't return them so, for this reason, you have decided to stop seeing her. If the off-chance that she really does like you, she can demonstrate that by asking to see you off the clock. It's unlikely that she will...but that's life.
You're GIF is so funny! lol
His point is that why can't people just grow some balls and say it is themselves and not "a friend"... that majority of people do not discuss their hobbying with friends or family, so when anyone say it is "a friend" who is having a problem, we see right through and know it is most likely you.
Cause guys like to brag about it.And why do people here have so many friends who share their hobby habits?
Exactly...100% agreed.Nothing wrong with enjoying her company and showing affection. For me, that's kind of the point. But it has to be clear to her that there's no further expectations and you understand it's a business that ends at the door. There's a professional boundary, paid for, finite.
Very elegantly said PabliceThere is nothing wrong with feelings. I can't believe some of you are so scared to show some emotion to an SP or MPA even though you feel it. What is wrong with this exactly? Feelings need to be managed, but not suppressed. Life is so beautiful to waste it by running from intense moments when the opportunity is there. In my head I know I always come back to my SO no matter how intense it gets. This has opened many beautiful moments i have never experienced with anybody but industry girls. Although these moments are very rare it is quite foolish to run from them b/c of being scared of hurt. When you guys are old and frail and can't hobby anymore you will regret not fully enjoying this hobby.
Don't get me wrong many times it's very fun just to fuck or talk or whatever, but don't limit yourself just to one, especially as we are so fluid.
So how do you explain real friendships that grow into beautiful relationships through this industry. How do you explain some clients who end up marrying the girls from this industry.
... However, thinking that everybody is a bitter soul like your self, or abuses or takes advantage of industry women .
Why is because the odds are stacked heavily against unicorns and rainbows.
Thanks TeasePlease, I couldn't have said it better myself.
Just how many customers actually end up marrying their clients ?? Let's compare that to the number of people I know who have roses up their ass like you and ended up giving cars, jewelry, and I know of one that financed a house for a dancer before he was unceremoniously dumped. I have a clear conscience telling guys not to go into SP/MPA & SC clubs with the attitude that love is around the corner. At least they won't get hurt/ played.
BTW: If you you can discern the difference between a paid GF experience and real GF experience - ask her socially without the need for paying for her time. As one girl pointed out here - that is the wake-up call for many dreamers - but I have a hunch- not all of them.
As far as me being a bitter soul that abuses the SP's - you are a delusional idealist who shows a tremendous lack of understanding in mature relationships and hostility to anyone who brings a measure of reality to your pipe dreams. Just because I do not attempt to marry the girl providing me with services does not mean I am an ogre paying them money so that I can rape them. Also don't label people using this service (as advertised) as shallow individuals who will regret our encounters. We are not the ones building our selves up for disappointment.
I enjoy the company of the SP, I respect the SP and I make my best efforts to assure that we both have as pleasurable an experience as possible. I do not engage in any activity that will cause discomfort and I leave with a clear conscience. I do not go in with a hidden agenda to pry into the SP's private live and I respect that she (like me) has a personal life that is separate from our encounter.
Well said Mr Ridgeman. Eloquently put and to the point. I realize that this is just a way for me to explore some of my wild fantasies, and that could be a healthy thing. I do have some strong feelings for some SP's, and instinctively know that its just a temporary thing. But damn, everyone always wishes they could be the exception to the rule.And yet another; I've fallen for my SP thread... There are numerous threads on this subject, and literally thousands of posts.
Here's my take on it... Dating an SP will never work. ....
Having said all that, tell "your friend" to avoid all this drama, and see another SP right away.
Its just human nature I think.
LMAO...you really are crazy and have convoluted some weird messed story + are taking it personal...serious lol...man now it is quite clear why you are so afraid and run of your feelings.
I don't know what dream world you come from but bring it back to reality man!
I don't who what kind of smoke your mind is under, but clear it up man and stay on topic man.
Or maybe just get laid and chill a bit!
Seriously messed up!
I don't know what dream world you come from but bring it back to reality man!
I don't who what kind of smoke your mind is under, but clear it up man and stay on topic man.
Or maybe just get laid and chill a bit!
Seriously messed up!
Thanks TeasePlease, I couldn't have said it better myself. Just how many customers actually end up marrying their clients ?? Let's compare that to the number of people I know who have roses up their ass like you and ended up giving cars, jewelry, and I know of one that financed a house for a dancer before he was unceremoniously dumped. I have a clear conscience telling guys not to go into SP/MPA & SC clubs with the attitude that love is around the corner. At least they won't get hurt/ played. BTW: If you you can discern the difference between a paid GF experience and real GF experience - ask her socially without the need for paying for her time. As one girl pointed out here - that is the wake-up call for many dreamers - but I have a hunch- not all of them. As far as me being a bitter soul that abuses the SP's - you are a delusional idealist who shows a tremendous lack of understanding in mature relationships and hostility to anyone who brings a measure of reality to your pipe dreams. Just because I do not attempt to marry the girl providing me with services does not mean I am an ogre paying them money so that I can rape them. Also don't label people using this service (as advertised) as shallow individuals who will regret our encounters. We are not the ones building our selves up for disappointment. I enjoy the company of the SP, I respect the SP and I make my best efforts to assure that we both have as pleasurable an experience as possible. I do not engage in any activity that will cause discomfort and I leave with a clear conscience. I do not go in with a hidden agenda to pry into the SP's private live and I respect that she (like me) has a personal life that is separate from our encounter.
Where you are correct that it should be exclusive, that would fall under the term "committed". Dating itself is only exploring, whether the two of you, have that ability to achieve the full relationship. During that dating period, you cannot expect any change to her occupation, nor decide you have to support her, as a sugar daddy. The rules would be the same as any person, you would "date". At some point, that discussion, would come up, but only because you are both thinking, you do want a full commitment. Not much different then, any other relationship, that started as interest, was explored, and found to be the right one. It is during that dating period, you both discover, if there are reasons, it would not work. No different then dating someone outside this particular occupation.Occasionally, there comes a time when recreational sex turns into emotional sex (for one or both partners...). If this feeling is mutual, (which by the way almost never happens...), that is when you consider dating an SP. However, unless the SP is willing to quit the business and find a new vocation and/ or means of living their lives to the standard they want, (e.g. Sugar daddy...) and the hobbyist is going to stop seeing other SP's, then this relationship is pretty much doomed. Its the nature of the beast. That inevitability is almost always 100% guaranteed.
Time and time again have I read and heard stories of SP's and clients trying to make a go of it, but unless they are both completely committed to the relationship and cut themselves off completely from other recreational sex partners, it won't last... It may survive for awhile because everyone is having fun, but eventually the inevitable will happen. In this case, the only possible solution is to have recreational AND emotional sex with the same partner... exclusively.
You are an idiot. Being delicate just bounces off that thick skull so I will give up. Your posts are all over the map and the suggestion that I take it 'personal' when answering misrepresentations directed at me is further proof that waters don't run deep in your thought process.LMAO...you really are crazy and have convoluted some weird messed story + are taking it personal...serious lol...man now it is quite clear why you are so afraid and run of your feelings.
I don't know what dream world you come from but bring it back to reality man!
My last word of advice when visiting SP's is in your own hippie signature : Open Your Eyes. Your first post was condescending dribble suggesting that most S/P customers not trying to establish a personal relationship with an SP will regret it. News Flash: most SP's are not in the business looking for dating material.
Now you are resorting to name calling very classy and mature indeed. So not only have you fabricated the shit out of my statement, and made of all these tangent stories to suit your dream world you have also stooped to a whole new level of low. This is pathetic.
It's amazing how you managed to convolute such a crazy story from my statement to everybody to not run away from your feelings if you are in this situation and not pursue it. This is simple as day gets and yet you managed to convolute this crazy fabricated story.
You need help man. This can't be healthy for you if such a simple thing sets you off. Seriously get some help before this kind of attitude seriously backfires on you.
It's amazing how you managed to convolute such a crazy story from my statement to everybody to not run away from your feelings if you are in this situation and not pursue it. This is simple as day gets and yet you managed to convolute this crazy fabricated story.
You need help man. This can't be healthy for you if such a simple thing sets you off. Seriously get some help before this kind of attitude seriously backfires on you.
You are an idiot. Being delicate just bounces off that thick skull so I will give up. Your posts are all over the map and the suggestion that I take it 'personal' when answering misrepresentations directed at me is further proof that waters don't run deep in your thought process. My last word of advice when visiting SP's is in your own hippie signature : Open Your Eyes. Your first post was condescending dribble suggesting that most S/P customers not trying to establish a personal relationship with an SP will regret it. News Flash: most SP's are not in the business looking for dating material.
If you think being in a committed relationship with an active SP and being in a committed relationship with civilian lady is no different, then you completely missed my point about emotional and recreational sex. Just ask ANY guy in a committed relationship if he minds that his girlfriend is fucking numerous guys of all ages, shapes and sizes, or ask any girl in a committed relationship if she minds that her boyfriend is fucking the hottest nymphomaniac babes...Where you are correct that it should be exclusive, that would fall under the term "committed". Dating itself is only exploring, whether the two of you, have that ability to achieve the full relationship. During that dating period, you cannot expect any change to her occupation, nor decide you have to support her, as a sugar daddy. The rules would be the same as any person, you would "date". At some point, that discussion, would come up, but only because you are both thinking, you do want a full commitment. Not much different then, any other relationship, that started as interest, was explored, and found to be the right one. It is during that dating period, you both discover, if there are reasons, it would not work. No different then dating someone outside this particular occupation.
