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shack

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here in lies the problem
"It takes away money the gov't could have used."

the money was not the governments to begin with

the govt has no right to borrow money in other people names to give it away


absolutely not
charity and foreign aid $ do not get invested into job creating investments

sending $ overseas to advance DEI and gender ideology is not foreign aid and is not supported by anywhere near a majority of tax payers

re charity: a healthy well managed growing economy can support way more charitable initiatives than an overtaxed , underproductive debt burdened economy

we are heading down the slippery slope of a government debt crisis that will devastate the very people you want to help in addition to everyone else
I said it in my last post and I guess I need to repeat myself.

I am simply saying that by giving the wealthy tax breaks, they are depriving themselves of revenue. I am not talking about them giving away or spending money that is already in their possession. But they are losing the potential to make money.
 

JohnLarue

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I said it in my last post and I guess I need to repeat myself.
its odd to repeat what you know is wrong

I am simply saying that by giving the wealthy tax breaks, they are depriving themselves of revenue. I am not talking about them giving away or spending money that is already in their possession. But they are losing the potential to make money.
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I am simply saying that by giving away money , that it borrowed in other people name, the government is irresponsible depriving itself of the ability to stay solvent.

fyi
when anyone has trillions of dollars in debt , they have no money that is already in their possession.

the debt the US government has accumulated over its 240 year history is projected to double in the next 9 years, given the status quo
so your strategy of kicking the can down the road and offloading the liabilities for your virtue signaling generosity onto future generation will blow up in your face if you live long enough.

Please stay healthy as I would not wish you should miss the horror show
 

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Saw this doing the rounds yesterday on X. Amazing how lefties believe that Cuba is some sort of paradise yet people die trying to flee it. Where's the poverty rate metric here - somewhere between 80 and 90 percent of that population lives in poverty.
Its still worthy of discussion.

With about 1/4 of the US functionally living in poverty they are living in worse conditions than Cuba, where they at least have education and health care.
 
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shack

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its odd to repeat what you know is wrong
I am simply saying that by giving away money , that it borrowed in other people name, the government is irresponsible depriving itself of the ability to stay solvent.
There are none so blind as those who refuse to see. Giving a tax break to the wealthy is not giving away borrowed money. Or is this a cognitive issue you have.
 

JohnLarue

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There are none so blind as those who refuse to see
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a very telling statement by a man who purposely ignores what he does not want to see
  • the debt the US government has accumulated over its 240 year history is projected to double in the next 9 years, given the status quo
I have yet to see one loonie provide a rational plan for avoiding the debt bomb explosion
Raising taxes is not an option as there is only so much a govt can extract from the economy before doing damage and we are well beyond the point.
The left have taxed the middle class to the brink in Canada , while at same time borrowing a mountain of govt debt

govt spending has to be reined in


Giving a tax break to the wealthy is not giving away borrowed money.
nothing is given buy the government wrt to taxes . The government takes what other people earn

giving away borrowed money is unbelievably stupid and insanely irresponsible when that borrowing is in the name of other people
a child gets born and right after they smack his ass, he assumes a $100,000 in US govt debt- what away to start life

In 2021, the top 5% of earners — people with incomes $252,840 and above — collectively paid over $1.4 trillion in income taxes, or about 66% of the national total. If you include the top 10% — everyone who made at least $169,800 — that figure rises to $1.7 trillion, or 76% of the total.
Three quarters of all income taxes are paid by 10% so its not like they are not paying their "fair share"

The left never has the balls to quantify the "fair share" they banty about
So I will, 75% is way more than their "'fair share''

Or is this a cognitive issue you have.
you cognitive issue allows you to ignore what you do not want to see

charity and foreign aid $ do not get invested into job creating investments,
rich folks money does get invested into job creating investments, provided government does not get in the way

your whole premise is ridiculous
every action has a reaction
wealthy people just structure their affairs to put their money to sleep when the loonies tax target them for an incremental bite over and above the absurd 76%
They earn a risk free rate of return on government bonds or tax preferred municipal bonds (in the US ) with out assuming any investment or operational risk,
And they wait until the loonies get turfed by the electorate before increasing their risk appetite to help the economy grow.
 
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JohnLarue

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So you're saying that in Cuba, the average person is able to "keep up with the Joneses. I'm sure it's less than that in the US.
so you are saying everyone's potential should be limited to' 'keeping up with the Jones '' and the government gets to determine what the 'jones' are allowed to keep ?
meanwhile the Trudeaus, Bidens, Obamas, Gores, Butts and Castro's some how all get rich because they got into govt work
well to be fair Justin was born with a Trust Fund , which he tax sheltered, just before tax targeting small family run businesses
 

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sure this is a concern, these things do go in cycles

for every action there is a reaction
Trump is the reaction against the unbelievable irresponsible govt spending / borrowing, money printing, the DIE , Net zero and gender insanity and ever creeping intrusion of govt into peoples lives.
I fully expect post Trump there could be a rebound of left silliness and irresponsibility, unless of course he is successful in shrinking govt and the economy booms .

you guys are on the wrong side of the public debate fence on way too many issues
defending government spending waste and every increasing govt debt is the pathway to election purgatory
it has to stop or the debt will implode the economy world wide
right now that appears to be your plan in order to eliminate capitalism or the left is just plain too irresponsible to be trusted with the public purse

you might want to re think the huge step to the left and offer something more centralist to the electorate
there has to be an intelligent, more caring leader who can also be responsible
He's not watching the public purse. He's unregulating everything , including the watchdogs who monitor spending, solely so he and his tech bro backers can loot the treasury without hindrance. But your still celebrating the cancellation of the fictitious $100 million for Hamas condoms!
 
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dirkd101

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sure this is a concern, these things do go in cycles

for every action there is a reaction
Trump is the reaction against the unbelievable irresponsible govt spending / borrowing, money printing, the DIE , Net zero and gender insanity and ever creeping intrusion of govt into peoples lives.
I fully expect post Trump there could be a rebound of left silliness and irresponsibility, unless of course he is successful in shrinking govt and the economy booms .

you guys are on the wrong side of the public debate fence on way too many issues
defending government spending waste and every increasing govt debt is the pathway to election purgatory
it has to stop or the debt will implode the economy world wide
right now that appears to be your plan in order to eliminate capitalism or the left is just plain too irresponsible to be trusted with the public purse

you might want to re think the huge step to the left and offer something more centralist to the electorate
there has to be an intelligent, more caring leader who can also be responsible

Agreed, on all points.

Those who think that throwing more money at an issue will eventually solve it, are delusional, but this seems to be top priority in the left's playbook. There are now people who make six figures, working for those charities, that the government sends ridiculous amounts of money to. And yet the problems never seem to have an end or even a glimmer of hope that they're working, so let's pump more money into it. This has to stop, the business of charity with no end in sight. There has to be a better way, one that shows results.
 

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A very slightly (teeny tiny) exaggerated version of how radical leftists manoeuvre through the world.

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I never once had this issue growing up in school. Nor did we ever refer to the bathroom as “boys room.” Let’s be real here this cartoon above is just hyperbole and lies to push a false narrative
 

JohnLarue

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He's not watching the public purse.
wrong
the fact so many ridiculous cheques are being identified should have told you that


He's unregulating everything , including the watchdogs who monitor spending,
the watch dogs apparently have not been doing a good job.
There is tremendous waste and abuses occurring within govt spending.
You are a denier

regulation
needs to be applied prudently and intelligently for the benefit of the country, not for political / ideological reasons
Gerald Butts / Trudeau regulated our resource sector with the ideologically driven madness of shutting it down
Ironically now the Liberals are suddenly figuring out we do need pipelines.
The permitting process for some projects now takes longer to complete than the actual construction
Companies look at the regulations, and say " we can not invest our money in Canada "
Billions are wasted on filling out regulatory documents that sit in a que, waiting for some government bureaucrat to review and send to his boss's que
Biden issued drilling permits so he could brag he was supportive of oil and gas, but he quietly put regulation in place that would not let the connecting feeder pipelines be built. No point in drilling if you can't get the product to market
Boarder agents hands are tied where ever someone cries "Refugee".
Small business have to spend huge amounts of time and money meeting regulations instead of servicing customers and growing the business
you want to business in Quebec, you need to do everything in French and English, now simultaneously

you clowns over regulated
for ever action there is a reaction

solely so he and his tech bro backers can loot the treasury without hindrance.
that is pure loonie left nonsense
are the democrats freaking because they view the treasury as their turf to loot ?


But your still celebrating the cancellation of the fictitious $100 million for Hamas condoms!
It was $100 MM for condoms in Gaza
right name, wrong country
If world wide birth control is the US taxpayers responsibility , best to let them know. they may have domestic priorities, like paying their rent/ bills

I am curious if Trojan received the PO for its US condom manufacturing facility or if some corrupt officials in Mozambique pocketed much of the $ and then went to the drug store for a 12 pack of rubbers
 
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JohnLarue

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Agreed, on all points.

Those who think that throwing more money at an issue will eventually solve it, are delusional, but this seems to be top priority in the left's playbook. There are now people who make six figures, working for those charities, that the government sends ridiculous amounts of money to. And yet the problems never seem to have an end or even a glimmer of hope that they're working, so let's pump more money into it. This has to stop, the business of charity with no end in sight. There has to be a better way, one that shows results.

there is a huge difference between:
helping others to get back on their feet , providing assistance to hep others acquire productive skill sets or to break an addiction
vs.
making them a govt dependant
 

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That triggers you, doesn't it? You guys are so fragile. If this dude is happy dressed like that why the fuck do you care?
Doesn't trigger me at all, seems that the post triggered you. 😂 I really don't care, as long as they don't compete with women and they go to mans jails when they commit crimes.
 

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Gentlemen (and I use that term loosely) the mods are more tolerant in the politics section, but if it devolves into nothing more than trolling and name calling, there will be deletions and possibly significant suspensions.
 

dirkd101

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there is a huge difference between:
helping others to get back on their feet , providing assistance to hep others acquire productive skill sets or to break an addiction
vs.
making them a govt dependant

Exactly! And when you make no headway in alleviating the problem, except for asking for more money and expanding your fiefdom, then you've lost all direction.
 
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