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Given that all you need to post here is a throwaway email address, and your IP address is obscured from the public, I'd say it's 'pretty safe'. Even if some / all Mods can see your IP address, there a long way to go to link that to you specifically. With that being said:
-If you have a vulnerable browser, and / or vulnerable image or 'other content' libraries (often loaded as plugins), on a vulnerable OS, your system could be compromised by 'user content' (like images / 'other content') hosted here, or via links from other sites. Just like every site on the web.
-Your data could be compromised if there is a vulnerability in the forum software. But why would they target you specifically? Once again this is like every forum site that nominally conceals some data.
-Your data could be compromised if there is a vulnerability in OS or software that is hosting the site. But why would they target you specifically? This is like every site that holds nominally concealed personal data on the web.

Other than scooping up viruses and spyware from user generated content (which TERB is strict about for it's own reasons), the only thing to really worry about would be LE with a warrant taking a very specific interest in you. About the only case where that is likely to happen is if you're involved with assaults (or worse), trafficking, or minors. So, basically: a) Don't do anything really shitty, or b) Don't write about doing anything really shitty. After that take 'normal privacy and security precautions', and count on just being one of any number of TERB members.

edit: And nothing can stop a person from going though every one of your posts to scoop up every bit of personal info on you that you have ever chosen to divulge. So have some ground rules in mind, and don't stray from them.
Good advice,Menu
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OP: Hackers have already penetrated terb, learned your identity, contacted your wife, and penetrated her as well.
 

mynameisearl11

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"Only mods have access to the IP you are posting from. If you are concerned about your IP, then use a proxy server to change it, or run the ToR browser bundle."
As if I know what the hell you're talking about! But, you guys are all very helpful to alleviate my concerned.

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oldjones

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That you'll take bland assurances rather than fill in some of your knowledge-gaps should worry you.

Nothing is safe by nature. It may be safe for us because 1) we took steps to make it so—like establishing government and giving it a police power. or 2) Because we consciously limited our exposure to danger—like using an assumed name at the incall and only carrying the appropriate cash and non-legal ID.

If you are so unaware of your computer and its connections that you cannot take the steps or limit the exposure, you should be lurking, not posting.
 

mynameisearl11

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That you'll take bland assurances rather than fill in some of your knowledge-gaps should worry you.

Nothing is safe by nature. It may be safe for us because 1) we took steps to make it so—like establishing government and giving it a police power. or 2) Because we consciously limited our exposure to danger—like using an assumed name at the incall and only carrying the appropriate cash and non-legal ID.

If you are so unaware of your computer and its connections that you cannot take the steps or limit the exposure, you should be lurking, not posting.
Well said,oj
I will be turning into a lurker soon! Thanks.
 

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Well said,oj
I will be turning into a lurker soon! Thanks.
Even lurking is:
-Still detectable to someone monitoring your connection (You`re still connecting to https://terb.cc and it`s associated ip adress(es))
-Still leaves you vulnerable to anything piggybacking on images / content
-Still shows up in your browser history (unless you clear that or use private browsing mode)
-May still set cookies if you have cookies enabled (unless you use private browsing mode / disable / specifically block / wipe them)
-Still leaves data in your browser cache (unless you use private browsing mode / wipe that)

`Lurker` / `non-lurker` is less important than `has knowledge of how a browser interacts with a web site` / `has little knowledge of how a browser interacts with a web site`. I`m pretty sure oldjones was advocating for knowledge, not so much for lurking.
 

oldjones

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Even lurking is:
-Still detectable to someone monitoring your connection (You`re still connecting to https://terb.cc and it`s associated ip adress(es))
-Still leaves you vulnerable to anything piggybacking on images / content
-Still shows up in your browser history (unless you clear that or use private browsing mode)
-May still set cookies if you have cookies enabled (unless you use private browsing mode / disable / specifically block / wipe them)
-Still leaves data in your browser cache (unless you use private browsing mode / wipe that)

`Lurker` / `non-lurker` is less important than `has knowledge of how a browser interacts with a web site` / `has little knowledge of how a browser interacts with a web site`. I`m pretty sure oldjones was advocating for knowledge, not so much for lurking.
Thanks OM. I intended `lurking` to fall under the `minimized risk` heading. By my my minimal understanding, the risks you describe are pretty much everywhere and not especially concentrated on TERB. The real question for earl11 would be: What exactly are you afraid of? That your SO will check your History and hoover the joint account because you`re here everyday? Or that TERBizoids` `puters are more attractive takeover targets than posters on the Davos Bankers Car Forum?

1) Take steps; as in citizenship, this will require some minimal effort and responsibility. The PC world is full of anti-malware stuff and from the sound of it, some of it should be guarding your `puter 2) Minimize exposure. Like putting your purchases in the car trunk, not leaving the house unlocked when you`re away and keeping large sums of cash locked away, this should be fairly straightforward. Like not using a work `puter or account for pooning.

The thing about the human species and fears is that we`re s`posed to use `em to stay safe and thrive, not shut down and hide.
 

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Thanks OM. I intended 'lurking' to fall under the 'minimized risk' heading. By my my minimal understanding, the risks you describe are pretty much everywhere and not especially concentrated on TERB.
Not especially concentrated on TERB, but because of the nature of what TERB is.

A company may have a policy that takes a dim view of using their resources to be on TERB on company time, or any number of other policies that would deem 'just lurking' here to be problematic. A SO may freak out if you leave tracks on a shared computer. Whatever. Just being here can be problematic. Not logging in doesn't save you from that. Not (directly) using a connection controlled by a SO, or somebody who has power over you, and covering your tracks after you do browse TERB does 'protect you'.

The only additional risk 'logging in' really brings is somebody checking out what you've been posting if they know your handle, even if they don't know your password to check your PMs.
 

mynameisearl11

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OJ:
I am a computer illiterate. But, I do like to have fun by reading threads from the forum. Least of my concern is that some malicious virus entered my computer caused I clicked on the link. (happened up here about a week ago). My meaning of penetration is that 'someone is hidden ' be able to watch me typing up my password,for example. No, not worry about the SO and not worry about work because I am self employed. Stealing privacy information is my paranoia.
Sorry for the chirping.
 

oldjones

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Mostly replying to Options: Lurking, like leaving your laptop on the carseat, is not without risk. Nothing is. The point I wanted the OP to grasp—the point I likely failed to make—is that you have to be responsible for keeping yourself and your risks within your own tolerance zone. I guess I too carelessly used minimize as a sort of synonym, but that's what I was getting at by asking what you're afraid of. If you can say—and expect to be believed—that you're just here for the Politics, then TERB may be safe for you. If your company (or SO) has a zero-tolerance policy and you are caught breaching it, even posing the innocent question here was hugely dangerous. And if you think neither has the nerd-smarts to track you, then you're fine. But only if you're right.

As is the case everywhere, only you can decide what risks you face, only you can decide how brave, foolish or well-fortified you are. Somewhat like someone trying to answer, the question: Aren't SCs a rip-off compared to SPs? for someone else.

Anyway, passwords and such are as secure on TERB as they are on any site using the same widely available software and, so far as we know, the TERB Trojan is still just mythical rubbergoods.
 

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Mostly replying to Options: Lurking, like leaving your laptop on the carseat, is not without risk. Nothing is. The point I wanted the OP to grasp—the point I likely failed to make—is that you have to be responsible for keeping yourself and your risks within your own tolerance zone.
Exactly. Especially when the word 'safe' is as nebulous as the word 'best' when used without any criteria for a given topic.
 
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