how much money do busy SPs actually make?

[oakvilleguy]

I’d want to know purely out of curiosity and to understand how things/life works. Then I can better understand the inputs that goes into the rates charged by the providers. Not that I would use this to haggle on the rate.

I love watching How it’s Made on tv. You might think who cares how they get the oil out of the ground as long as there is gas for my car. I get that.

Just like I’d want to know how they get the chocolate inside the lindor or how much a Timmy’s employee makes and what their story is. Perhaps I can help them with a job in a field they studied for.

I’m just naturally curious.

Then there’s the competitive side of me.

Knowing how much my doctor or dentist makes lets me place a value on their service. Did I pick the wrong career path or am I doing ok relative to someone else? How much effort they put in vs me to get where they are in life? Is that extra effort worth it?

But this is just me.

 

[Jenesis]

I’d want to know purely out of curiosity and to understand how things/life works. Then I can better understand the inputs that goes into the rates charged by the providers. Not that I would use this to haggle on the rate.

I love watching How it’s Made on tv. You might think who cares how they get the oil out of the ground as long as there is gas for my car. I get that.

Just like I’d want to know how they get the chocolate inside the lindor or how much a Timmy’s employee makes and what their story is. Perhaps I can help them with a job in a field they studied for.

I’m just naturally curious.

Then there’s the competitive side of me.

Knowing how much my doctor or dentist makes lets me place a value on their service. Did I pick the wrong career path or am I doing ok relative to someone else? How much effort they put in vs me to get where they are in life? Is that extra effort worth it?

But this is just me.

So you ask your doctor how much he makes and how my patients he sees in a day/week? Really????

As I said, you can be curious but you can curb that when required and asking service people how many they serve and how much they make is rude. You don’t ask your Tim cashier how many did she serve through the drive-thru.

Curious about how something is made is one thing, asking a person how much they make and how many they service is something completely different.

And judging an escorts rates based on what YOU think she puts in, man …. I don’t even have to tell you that is wrong. You judge a woman’s rate based on your wallet because that is the only way it affects you personally. It is not or should not what you think she does or does not put personally into her career or based on how many she services. Maybe I misunderstand that part but that is how it is coming across. Her rates and how she came to them is none of your business. The only thing you have to say about her rates is - I’m willing to pay that or I’m not willing to pay that. That’s it.

 

[Jenesis]

Oh blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah hold my beer for me babe

Ok cupcake. I get it. I have challenged you and you can’t respond.

It’s ok little one, the grown ups will continue the actual discussion.

PS - holding your beer is a minimum $150 and for your curiosity - no male has requested this service before. You would be the only one who requested this. Doesn’t that make you feel “special”?

 

[Sonic Temple]

Let me also ask this - I know you guys want to fuck 10 times a day and wish you could and get paid, but realistically - how many times can you cum in an 8 hour shift? Is it 10 times?

Oh hell no , def 2 shots in 8 hours - timeline below:
Hours 1-2 - Foreplay
Beginning of hour 2 - shoot 1
Hours 2:01 - 7 - do your own thing, personally I would go play guitar, go to Tim's do some errands - whatever you fancy
Hour 7:01 - 7:59 - Foreplay
Hour 7:59:30 - shoot second
Hour 8 - resume daily activities.

Now I have a question for the men - why the fuck do you care about a) how much we make and b) how much we fuck in a day? Why is it any of your business?

A) Personally don't - I just worry about if I could afford you
B) Personally don't - that is history - lets think about the our moment

 

[Jenesis]

Sure but i deserve a full refund for the toxic replies ive gotten from you. So I guess we are even.

I answered your questions, you couldn’t answer mine. You started with the toxic replies instead of having a normal discussion. I’m now happy to serve them back to you pumpkin.

So scurry along, let the adults finish what you couldn’t.

 

[Jenesis]

Oh hell no , def 2 shots in 8 hours - timeline below:
Hours 1-2 - Foreplay
Beginning of hour 2 - shoot 1
Hours 2:01 - 7 - do your own thing, personally I would go play guitar, go to Tim's do some errands - whatever you fancy
Hour 7:01 - 7:59 - Foreplay
Hour 7:59:30 - shoot second
Hour 8 - resume daily activities.


A) Personally don't - I just worry about if I could afford you
B) Personally don't - that is history - lets think about the our moment

Now that is an answer I can get behind. LOL.

 

[Jenesis]

Wouldn't be surprised if most of the guys feel the same way about your services.

And yet I continue to laugh all the way to the bank!

 

[Redpeppers]

Be a man that's desirable for something more than just your money.

i already do all that. but if she makes comparable or more money than me, a man, shes not for me period. she would think the same too even if she denies it and tries to act like a good person saying it doesnt matter blah blah. of course it matters. even if she doesnt say it shes going to belittle the man in her mind. its an instinctive thing

 

[Jenesis]

i already do all that, but if she makes comparable or more money than me, a man, shes not for me period. she would think the same too even if she denies it and tries to act like a good person saying it doesnt matter blah blah. of course it matters. even if she doesnt say it shes going to belittle you in her mind

Stop listening to Tate and his kin.

There are plenty of women making more than men and have no problem with it. In my relationship I paid for so much and was making more than him. At one point I was making more than him and his wife combined. Like you, he hated that. I didn’t. It didn’t make me look down on him.

I’ll tell you what did though. His mind got so warped and insecure got so strong that he started to resent me for it. Then his behaviour changed and then the abuse started. Any success I had, he loathed and I would hear about it for weeks/months. He would pick fights just to berate me and when the physical abuse started, it got bad.

I sense that you are young and have been brainwashed into believing things that are not true.

And for the women that would do as you say, you are just weeding out the bad ones. Not every women is perfect and not every man is.

My contractor got to be a contractor because that is what he liked to do and his wife made more than enough to cover them while he started his construction business. He just built my deck last year. My third project with him now. He opened his business in 2008 which was when I first contracted him. He makes great money now. Always busy. Amazing contractor and all around good guy. His wife still makes more than him and they are one of the happiest couples I know.

I can give more examples but seriously, you are either very naive to the true world or you are trolling us.

Women want a man who bring more to the table then money. You can just watch thousands of reels, TikTok’s, female content creators, etc. They will all tell you the same thing. Women are leaving relationships because men still believe all they have to do is bring home a pay check, but no. Women need more than a man to pay. Women don’t need the pay anymore. They need all the things I listed.

Seriously - forget this escort. Work on yourself before going back out into the dating world. You are just going to strike out and resent women as a whole in the long run. Resentment is not a road you want to go down.

 

[SchlongConery]

Oh blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah hold my beer for me babe

You prove why some guys have to pay for it.

As for you wanting to own an escort agency?!?

Like a fat guy thinks he can start a restaurant because he loves to eat.

Aside from many other business skills you obviously lack, you also need personality and charisma to lead people and any business. Well maybe except for an emergency septic tank pumping service. There is lots of money in that shit and you could fuck and eat all you want with that money!

 

[SchlongConery]

I see one SP on a regular basis (who seems to have a lot of customers) and remarked to me once she's having trouble paying last months rent.

Geeeee... never heard that before!

Probably because her grandmother needed an operation last month and she spent all her money on saving her life.

You could call her.... but hurry, her cellphone is going to get cut off tomorrow if she doesn't get her bill paid!

Honest

 

[SchlongConery]

My pussy is not a tool that can be used often and all the time.

You might consider upgrading to the 18V FUEL tools for screwing, getting hammered and drilled.. Unlike the regular consumer grade M12 Milwaukee, they can screw all day!

 

[escortsxxx]

Bring something more to the table. Like honestly, loyalty, communication, safety, Humour, friendship, Overall companionship, Sexual interest in what makes her come not just you, strength, Emotional support, Maturity, nontoxic, or abusive.

I mean just to name a few. But dude, your mind is warped with how you are thinking. Get some counselling to work on those insecurities and then maybe you’ll see what you can truly bring to a woman besides money.

As a side note dating down is always available. Economics is a pyramid, there are a huge pool on the bottom. If you here at all , your not at the bottom. There your dating down pool. male Celebrities until recently almost always "dated" down. Many women celebrities like Amber Heard dated up and become celebrities because of it. Even if you ignore Jenesis advice there lots of choice via the money path. Hell I know a young fellow who went from janitor like job to poor suger daddy in a week. He earns she spends.

 

[escortsxxx]

Sometimes a few, sometimes none. I work when I feel like. I only take a certain amount men in a week. My pussy is not a tool that can be used often and all the time.

Some see more than me, but no escort is fucking 10 guys a day, 7 days a week, 4 weeks a month. No escort is doing that. Most cap out at 4-6 at most and work only 3-4 shifts a week. And those are usually agency girls, because the agency wants to max their girls out. Indies - far less. Which is also why they charge more. So they can make the same as the average escort without having to fuck as many guys. The higher the rate, usually the less she sees.

Now I have a question for the men - why the fuck do you care about a) how much we make and b) how much we fuck in a day? Why is it any of your business? Not just you directly, this is a general question because this topic gets brought up ALL THE TIME. Do you ask your doctor how many patients he/she sees in a day and how much they make per patient and how much they make in a year? Do you ask you dentist or your mechanic how many cars he can work on in a day? How much he makes a year? Let me ask this - do we know if a mechanic works at CT, do they take a cut and if so - what’s the ratio? Or are they just paid hourly? These are the important questions in life that all people should know right????? It’s our business to know these things??? I think not. So why? Why do you guys want to know so badly and why are you guys so bad at hooker math?

Let me also ask this - I know you guys want to fuck 10 times a day and wish you could and get paid, but realistically - how many times can you cum in an 8 hour shift? Is it 10 times? I think not as well because your dicks can’t do that every day, all day. It would get sore and raw and there would be no way to sustain that. Our pussies are the same. Use some actual common sense here. Not just your rose coloured glasses.

Again I say you as in general to guys, not you directly and personally @Meep_meep

I see this is the how many times a day a man things about the Roman empire. Men in general, think about the Roman empire a lot. Its the foundation of western civilization and its in our medical system, our legal system and our engineering and baked into our culture. Star Trek stole from it constantly, as do many bad and good writers for film television and books.

Men do ask about how many patients the doctor sees. When my doctor performance is connected to number of patients its crucial. Likewise, if I want to know if a guy is lazy or good or ripping me off I want to know how many customers he has. People want to be fair, and treat others fairly. I am not going to complain my doctor cant see me soon vs a pandemic but I will complain and seek another doctor if there taking 6 months vacation all the time. And yes, also we all encounter the SPs who cant pay the rent there phone is going to be turned off, but charge 500 an hour. Sometime up with that.

Partially is just the Roman empire thing. Its important to a certain way of logical thinking that for some reason many women never learn or chose to ignore. They have why bother about this or that - something men can generally not have the luxury to have as a default thinking as they are expected to be aware by society at large. Stupid men exist in large numbers, but even then they try to avoid being stupid if possible.

 

[oakvilleguy]

So you ask your doctor how much he makes and how my patients he sees in a day/week? Really????

As I said, you can be curious but you can curb that when required and asking service people how many they serve and how much they make is rude. You don’t ask your Tim cashier how many did she serve through the drive-thru.

Curious about how something is made is one thing, asking a person how much they make and how many they service is something completely different.

And judging an escorts rates based on what YOU think she puts in, man …. I don’t even have to tell you that is wrong. You judge a woman’s rate based on your wallet because that is the only way it affects you personally. It is not or should not what you think she does or does not put personally into her career or based on how many she services. Maybe I misunderstand that part but that is how it is coming across. Her rates and how she came to them is none of your business. The only thing you have to say about her rates is - I’m willing to pay that or I’m not willing to pay that. That’s it.

What I find rude is you attacking me after I shared my perspective on here.

I think you have a very narrow sense of what is considered private info and what is not. So you take offence when someone asks questions that YOU feel inappropriate based on your personal value system without consideration of other’s perspective.

If you choose not to answer then don’t. However don’t place your value system on me and judge me.

Now to answer your questions.

It’s not difficult to figure out how much my GP makes based on his office hours and how much OHIP pays per 15 min appt. Most professionals don’t mind me asking since I will also tell them my income. I don’t need to know the exact dollar they make. Just a ballpark. 400k 500k 1mm. And yes, I asked my doctor if he’s busy and fully booked then backed out the numbers.

I don’t see how asking service workers how often they work and how many they serve to be rude. I’ve had this same discussion many times with providers in the sex industry and they’re very open to having a civil discussion. They also want to know whether they are on par with others or if there’s anything they could be doing to up their income.

Nowhere did I say I judge an escort’s rate based on what she puts in. My exact words were “I’d want to know purely out of curiosity and to understand how things/life works. Then I can better understand the inputs that goes into the rates charged by the providers. Not that I would use this to haggle on the rate”

Instead of seeing through your red haze of anger, try to put yourself in others’ shoes and understand their perspective before putting your foot in your mouth. It may actually cause you less stress first thing in the morning.

 

[Jenesis]

What I find rude is you attacking me after I shared my perspective on here.

I think you have a very narrow sense of what is considered private info and what is not. So you take offence when someone asks questions that YOU feel inappropriate based on your personal value system without consideration of other’s perspective.

If you choose not to answer then don’t. However don’t place your value system on me and judge me.

Now to answer your questions.

It’s not difficult to figure out how much my GP makes based on his office hours and how much OHIP pays per 15 min appt. Most professionals don’t mind me asking since I will also tell them my income. I don’t need to know the exact dollar they make. Just a ballpark. 400k 500k 1mm. And yes, I asked my doctor if he’s busy and fully booked then backed out the numbers.

I don’t see how asking service workers how often they work and how many they serve to be rude. I’ve had this same discussion many times with providers in the sex industry and they’re very open to having a civil discussion. They also want to know whether they are on par with others or if there’s anything they could be doing to up their income.

Nowhere did I say I judge an escort’s rate based on what she puts in. My exact words were “I’d want to know purely out of curiosity and to understand how things/life works. Then I can better understand the inputs that goes into the rates charged by the providers. Not that I would use this to haggle on the rate”

Instead of seeing through your red haze of anger, try to put yourself in others’ shoes and understand their perspective before putting your foot in your mouth. It may actually cause you less stress first thing in the morning.

No stress. Why would I be stressed? LOL It is a posting on a thread. Calling something rude or dropping the word fuck around doesn’t mean I’m angry either.

I call bullshit on sitting with your doctor and asking what he makes or what he bills OHIP and trying to find out what he makes. That is my opinion. Maybe that angers you. I don’t know. But personally, this was this mornings topic over coffee and I have moved on to the afternoons thread. With coffee again it would seem. So since I don’t really take some of what you are saying for face value, I don’t see the point of continuing with you personally right now.

And that is not an attack either. I just don’t have enough interest right now but since you quoted me, I wanted to at least give you some sort of a reply.

If something changes, maybe tomorrow morning I may be back, I don’t know. So many threads, so little time and all that.

Have a good night though.

Edit - I will apologize for my misread of your comments regarding what considerations an escort puts into her rates? I totally read that wrong. Maybe not enough coffee this morning but I was totally off on that part and I apologize

 

[escortsxxx]

No stress. Why would I be stressed? LOL It is a posting on a thread. Calling something rude or dropping the word fuck around doesn’t mean I’m angry either.

I call bullshit on sitting with your doctor and asking what he makes or what he bills OHIP and trying to find out what he makes. That is my opinion. Maybe that angers you. I don’t know. But personally, this was this mornings topic over coffee and I have moved on to the afternoons thread. With coffee again it would seem. So since I don’t really take some of what you are saying for face value, I don’t see the point of continuing with you personally right now.

And that is not an attack either. I just don’t have enough interest right now but since you quoted me, I wanted to at least give you some sort of a reply.

If something changes, maybe tomorrow morning I may be back, I don’t know. So many threads, so little time and all that.

Have a good night though.

There is a taboo in Canada about income. You don't ask someone in conversation generally. So your just going to go with that flow. It serves a purpose just like taboo about sex talk which I think is good in many contexts just generally not good in a discussion forum. The taboo comes with advantages and disadvantages.

 

[Jenesis]

There is a taboo in Canada about income. You don't ask someone in conversation generally. So your just going to go with that flow. It serves a purpose just like taboo about sex talk which I think is good in many contexts just generally not good in a discussion forum. The taboo comes with advantages and disadvantages.

Ok. I’ll take that. That’s fair. For sure.

 

[harryass]

ok, for those who are really curious how many a high volume service provider serves daily.

FYI - How many people are served at McDonald's every day?
69 million customer give or take a million.

I trust this is helpful to all the curious ones on this post. LOL

 

[kherg007]

Interesting thought experiment, and I'm curious too but more about the whole experience of being an SP, not just the income. I'm fascinated by it, the skill set involved, and so forth. I also enjoy the challenge of just looking at this from a straight business perspective. In essence the lady (lets real name "jane smith") is the CEO of "Jenesis, Inc." or "Kimberly Rose, Inc." Or "Amber Rabbit, inc", (working name) thus the administrative aspect is not as appreciated but is every bit the same challenges as any business (where and how to advertise, understanding what's my particular market, where might we be able to expand, or what costs/efforts are not worth the time, etc.). And different ladies have different business models, as some its a supplement, some their main source of income. Business decisions include not necessarily maximizing income. Ladies know overextending themselves may generate more income now but lead to less income later as they burn out and fail to deliver to their standards.
I've been asked by some ladies early in their careers about money and i will say the simplest way is the "rule of 3rds" - with your new cash flow, take 1/3 and sock it away in a CD or bank account or somewhere and never touch it. Pretend it does not exist except to deposit funds. Use 1/3rd on your expenses. Enjoy your remaining 1/3rd. Easy to comprehend. Guarantees you'll walk away with something. Ideally sock away more.

Although enjoy the process, I have always felt it a losing effort, though, to count other people's money.