I am just curious to know how many guys go this route because they gave up on dating figuring they are just too unattractive to a vast majority of women. AND what traits make you that way: way too ugly, hidiously fat, short, a nationality that too few in this country find desirable? I myself am one of those guys BUT NOT going to say what traits make me undesirable to 98% of women BECAUSE I do not want to influence the direction of this conversation. Maybe later on. P.S. Not implying there is not other reasons for hobbying, just curios about how many for this reason & what makes you that unattractive.