How long after starting a serious relationship do you ladies go BBFS with the BF?

[Punkdt]

Ladies, how many days/weeks/months with a new BF before you or if you go Bareback FS/everything with him? Judging from Sinful Selina's pics, she has had plenty of serious BF's who went BBFS-vaginally and anally and BBBJTC with her...

And as BF's of SP's, would you go BBFS with them knowing what they do especially if they perform or performed in the past BBBJ/BBBJTC, DATY, DFK, Greek,etc?....Do you feel safe?

 

[Shallow Throat]

days/weeks/months

you left out seconds/minutes/hours/

 

[BigBlack]

The bar hottie gets handed a snazzy buisness card, and wakes up hung over, broke, disappointed and waiting for a phone call that never comes from the guy that came and went, while the SP gets handed an envelope full of cash, for an honest buisness transaction..........

xoxo Selina, Sexual Maverick
http://www.geocities.com/sinfulselina

The true bar hotties may date the rich guys and get life handed to them (in many cases). Guys seem to pay one way or another. The above situation tends to happen to the average to less than average looking girls who sleep around.

Let's not over glamourize the sp business. You girls deserve the money beyond a doubt. Most I have spoken to can't wait to get out of it. Why is that if it were so easy? There is a cost to the business. I have dated both a dancer and sp for a period of time, and heard all sides of the story. Nothing wrong with other career women who choose not to hook either and have the occasional fling.

What's funny is that these women tend to display outright indignation if anyone suggested they were "sluts", while I more accurately consider them to be unpaid SP's..........

I can't tell you how many times I have heard strippers refer to mpa or sp's as whores. Same with mpa's refering to sp's as whores, ect. Is the bar girl putting out with 100 guys an unpaid sp? Perhaps, if she isn't receiving anything material. What if she is in med. school, very hot, has no time for a relationship and just horny for a lot of unattached sex? I have known girls in school who are far prettier than most of the sp's out there that volunteered and waitressed their way through school. They had flings and could be called "unpaid sp's", but it's was a personal choice. They didn't want to sp. Quite a few have good careers now. Anyone can sp (from what I have seen on these boards, I mean anyone).

Are sp's safer? Some are. Some aren't. A very popular mpa in North York was doing bareback BBBJ, and FS with many of her clients. I have always had BBBJ (never met an sp who did CBJ, even those who claim that's all they do), and sadly as a younger guy quite a bit of bareback fs with sp's ( it took many years of std tests for me to be relaxed about the past). I have found talking with sp's that many are safe with clients but not with others outside of the business (boyfriends, ect), much like other girls.


BBLACK

 

[mypussykat]

Nice to see you got the point of Selina's post.

Whoosh. It went over your head.

MPK

 

[BigBlack]

Nice to see you got the point of Selina's post.

Whoosh. It went over your head.

I felt it was too one sided. There were many points (not singular, although you probably only picked up one), some I agreed with , some not totally. You missed the points of my post. So much for expressing opinions here.

BBLACK

 

[mypussykat]

I love the misogynist undertones on this board. It's really too bad that so many men are threatened by intelligent, passionate and sexual women.

MPK

 

[Goober Mcfly]

I love the misogynist undertones on this board. It's really too bad that so many men are threatened by intelligent, passionate and sexual women.

MPK

Please don't judge the entire board by the postings of the few.

 

[BigBlack]

I love the misogynist undertones on this board. It's really too bad that so many men are threatened by intelligent, passionate and sexual women.

MPK

Now misogynist is a key defence for any post you disagree with? I hate women now? Where, please show me. There is no support for Punk's post here. I can point out misogynist undertones in Selina's post dissing bar women. please, don't use words you don't understand. An intelligent, sp you definately are not. Threatened? You seem like the threatened one. Sober up.

The way many sp's/ mpa's talk about their clients you'd think it was the other way around. But that ok. It's a double standard .

BBLACK

 

[BigBlack]

Please don't judge the entire board by the postings of the few.

Please don't judge the sp's here but the postings of a few either.

BBLACK

 

[Goober Mcfly]

Please don't judge the sp's here but the postings of a few either.

BBLACK

Agreed. Judging anything by a small sampling is silly.

That said, Selina's explanation was fabulous. IMNSHO.

 

[BigBlack]

I agree with most of Selina's statements although she stereotypes bar hotties, much like many others stereotype sp's ,ect. I still don't understand how defending bar women, and sp's can be viewed as women hating.

Punkdt took a personal shot at Selina and she defended herself well. Mypussycat is just ignorant and rude.

BBLACK

 

[Araura]

Well with me bieng married i am out of the boyfriend stage but i can say before i was i had to seriously know the man first..its not a question of how long i knew the guy i was how well i knew the guy ...i also asked about how many parterns he had before me ...most of the men i have been involved with personally (wich i might add i can count on one hand) has eighter been a virgin when i met them or only had one or 2 relations with other woman ..i guess i must be a bad influence ...so i felt pretty safe about the matter not to mention i also asked if they had been checked first before getting that involved with them...i would also like to add it doesnt matter if your an sp,stripper,housewife or simply a girlfriend..eighter way you look at it the man always winds up paying for it in one way or another ....so i usually giggle when i hear woman calling sps whores ..when you look at it the no matter what a womans carreer is the only difference between sps and other woman is we charge a fee and are upfront about what your in for..lol

 

[queenie]

concise

I came into this thread late, and Goober beat me to it, but Selina, YOU RULE.
I second the motion of calling Selina's post "fabulous".

 

[bootycall28]

Mypussycat is just ignorant and rude.

BBLACK

After reading through this whole thread I agree with both Selina and BB. Veterans tend to know there way around here. Unfortunately newbies like MyPussyCat seem to becoming more regular here. They join up, post a little, step on all sorts of toes, and shoot out the place with crap.

Booty

 

[Don]

BigBlack

BigBlack - Nice post. A lot of very good points.

Selina also had a lot of vaild points but I did get the sense that it was leaning too heavily to one side. But as she mentioned, she was responding to getting singled out.

 

[Ophelia Black]

No kidding - forget a misogynist undertone, it's a goddamn misogynist marching band. Utterly pathetic.

That's why I'm a Vancouver SP posting on a Toronto board - there are literally maybe seven posters over there with more going on than a quarter cup of brain cells and a drawer full of wifebeaters.

And I hardly even post here - quite frankly, the Perb Experience can put you off boards for life

 

[Don]

My last observation is this: What is an unhappily married housewife who stays in a loveless marriage of convenience in order to maintain her lifestyle? A one client SP............

I found this statement somewhat offensive. There is much to admire for people who value the institution of marriage to choose to remain in it and not spurn it so easily. Seems like these days people don't think of marriage as a big deal. I know friends who get married quickly for whatever reason and then just end it for trival reasons. They obviously don't think too much of it. Sad.

I know my parents sometimes didn't have the most passionate marriage. But they (like many of their time) stuck with it because they valued marriage and also because they felt it important to stay together for the children. I realize that this has wandered a bit off the path but just wanted to express some points here.

 

[Don]

What's funny is that these women tend to display outright indignation if anyone suggested they were "sluts", while I more accurately consider them to be unpaid SP's..........

I think this comparison is a bit off - the difference between the bar hopper who picks up guys and an SP is that the bar hopper is doing what she does for her own entertainment/desires. The SP is providing a service strictly for payment. How can you consider the bar hopper an "unpaid" Service Provider is she is not providing a service?

 

[Don]

Don, no disrespect intended towards such individuals as your parents, who stay together for the children, as did my own.
I referred to the materialistic wife who simply cannot conceive of divorce, for then she would have to get a job, and would rather stay in a dead marriage, and at times even displays outright contempt and ridicule for her husband, while continuing to spend his money. I know women like these!They exhist!
Now that is surely a one client amateur SP.......

Towards the end while typing my post I got the sense that your comment was along those lines... which is why I mentioned that i was going off track. Now that you clarified - yes there are certainly women like that, I've seen them too. And I agree, they are a sort of SP... but I wouldn't insult SP's by saying those women are like SP's because real SP's don't try to pretend their clients that they love them or whatever...

 

[Punkdt]

I'm very sorry Selina for centering you out...

Sorry Selina, I wasn't thinking straight (recent heartache from breakup...I know it's no excuse). Although your website pics show numerous partners, obviously, this was over a lengthy course of time just like many non-SP's out there. I am truly sorry.

For the record, I am sure Selina practices much safer sex than most of the regular population. I guess in all walks of life, no matter what you do, some are more responsible than others.
i.e. STD's among teenagers is probably higher than the more mature 20+ age groups.