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How I would fix election of the US presidency

Asterix

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With due recognition that this is somewhat fantasy because it won't happen.

Ammendment to the Constitution to change the term of president to one 6 year term only. No chance of running again.

Scrap the electoral college completely. It would force the candidates to pay attention to the entire country, and is a relic of the system in place from the early 19th century.

Severely limit the amount of money candidates could spend on their campaigns and the pacs they get it from. $2000 per individual should be enough.

Stop all broadcast, phone call ad campaigns before the final weekend of the election. Enough already. Give people a chance to reflect.

Shorten the entire campaign process. Canada does that better than us, at least.

$2 billion dollars on a presidential election. This is insanity. If this doesn't change the US election process will become even more cartoon like than it already is.
 

Aardvark154

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Scrap the electoral college completely. It would force the candidates to pay attention to the entire country, and is a relic. . .
In which case what would then happen is that candidates would pay attention merely to major population centers the Hell with the rest of the U.S.A.

Perhaps instead we should have a system of one vote for each county in the U.S.A.?
 

blackrock13

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Mak the lines so long that people have to wait in excess of 2-4 hours to vote on a ballot that goes on for a number of pages.
 

blackrock13

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So I suppose that investment in Sulzer, means that I was hoping that tunnels in New York would flood?
If I knew what Sulzer made or did I might be able to answer you, but something tells me it's a ludicrous comparison. Speaking of ludicrous, i noticed you didn't say anything about the voting line ups and ballots. something tells me the election will be a repeat of the hanging chads debacle with court challenges all over the place..
 

Aardvark154

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If I knew what Sulzer made or did I might be able to answer you, but something tells me it's a ludicrous comparison.
Oh, you mean just like implying that a financial investment in a firm which makes voting machines somehow is a) nefarious b) puts you the investor in a position to somehow "rig" voting machines

i noticed you didn't say anything about the voting line ups and ballots. something tells me the election will be a of the hanging chads debacle with court challenges all over the place..
Not only am I not from one of the counties having problems, I'm not a resident of Florida. So other than sitting on the fence shooting spitballs. . . . . . . .
 

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With due recognition that this is somewhat fantasy because it won't happen.

Ammendment to the Constitution to change the term of president to one 6 year term only. No chance of running again.
This makes some sense, we have one house of congress elected every 2 years, one house where a third is elected every 6 years.... a single 6 year term would be consistent with the Senate (in duration at least). The only weakness of this is that once elected the POTUS would feel very little accountability (much like the last two years of the second term).

Scrap the electoral college completely. It would force the candidates to pay attention to the entire country, and is a relic of the system in place from the early 19th century.
I agree with this, the amount of attention we are getting in Ohio is silly.

Severely limit the amount of money candidates could spend on their campaigns and the pacs they get it from. $2000 per individual should be enough.
The 2k limit already exists, what you can't really stop is the "issue" money as it's free speach.

Stop all broadcast, phone call ad campaigns before the final weekend of the election. Enough already. Give people a chance to reflect.
Would give a big advantage to a sitting POTUS (unless your fists item was in place) as they are always in the news cycle.

Shorten the entire campaign process. Canada does that better than us, at least.
I don't know how you do this we pre-scheduled elections.

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danmand

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This makes some sense, we have one house of congress elected every 2 years, one house where a third is elected every 6 years.... a single 6 year term would be consistent with the Senate (in duration at least). The only weakness of this is that once elected the POTUS would feel very little accountability (much like the last two years of the second term).



I agree with this, the amount of attention we are getting in Ohio is silly.



The 2k limit already exists, what you can't really stop is the "issue" money as it's free speach.


Would give a big advantage to a sitting POTUS (unless your fists item was in place) as they are always in the news cycle.


I don't know how you do this we pre-scheduled elections.

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The only option left is to bring back the monarchy. I am sure Liz would agree to reign over the old british parts of North America. No more elections, just take whoever is the frontrunner in exiting the royal vagina. Stability will be gusranteed. Bring in the lords also, while you are at it. Why elect senators, let Liz appoint them. The silly costumes will be a big hit.
 

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The only option left is to bring back the monarchy. I am sure Liz would agree to reign over the old british parts of North America. No more elections, just take whoever is the frontrunner in exiting the royal vagina. Stability will be gusranteed. Bring in the lords also, while you are at it. Why elect senators, let Liz appoint them. The silly costumes will be a big hit.
To quote a US license plate, I'd rather die....

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I have some bad news for some of you then...... There is a rumor spreading that if this US elections ends in a court debacle like it did in 2000..... Well, the British Gov't has already drawn up some documentation to revoke your Independence!

It makes sense based on your recent historical incapability's to elect a fair and unbiased Government. Some bullshit about "Taxation without Representation" has not really occurred, and how party lines have failed the American Public. So, They're takin ya'll back!

I'd start practicing your curtsey now for King Charles..... He'll be thrilled!

Cheers!
 

Aardvark154

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There is a rumor spreading that if this US elections ends in a court debacle like it did in 2000..... Well, the British Gov't has already drawn up some documentation to revoke your Independence!
Silly nonsense I know.

However,, I have even more bad news, Great Britain did not "grant" the U.S. Independence, hence it would be hard to revoke it. What G.B. did in the Peace of Paris was "acknowledge" U.S. Independence.
 

danmand

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Silly nonsense I know.

However,, I have even more bad news, Great Britain did not "grant" the U.S. Independence, hence it would be hard to revoke it. What G.B. did in the Peace of Paris was "acknowledge" U.S. Independence.
I would have to say that is an insignificant point in light of the God given right the british Monarchy has to reign over the americas.
 

S.C. Joe

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I have some bad news for some of you then...... There is a rumor spreading that if this US elections ends in a court debacle like it did in 2000..... Well, the British Gov't has already drawn up some documentation to revoke your Independence!

It makes sense based on your recent historical incapability's to elect a fair and unbiased Government. Some bullshit about "Taxation without Representation" has not really occurred, and how party lines have failed the American Public. So, They're takin ya'll back!

I'd start practicing your curtsey now for King Charles..... He'll be thrilled!

Cheers!

That be fine with me..we need some help over here. We got too many states-we do-drives up the costs having so many different state laws and rules.

We got half the country on one side, yet we can't just divide the country and make two USA's

Best part is, if EVERYBODY voted, the R's would be out of power...I'm talking everybody, that means people lock up also. Isn't it funny how a government they don't agree with, out laws something-say drugs - and then takes their right to vote away if they use drugs and still claim its a "free" country ?


I'm all for splitting up the USA..places like Texas can have all their guns and right to kill others and places like NY could live peaceful like folks in Canada do..but Texas has oil and the gulf of Mexico, how do you split the wealth ?
 

S.C. Joe

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Silly nonsense I know.

However,, I have even more bad news, Great Britain did not "grant" the U.S. Independence, hence it would be hard to revoke it. What G.B. did in the Peace of Paris was "acknowledge" U.S. Independence.
That is true and I laugh how the USA claims its free of Britain--sure, we won the Boston Tea Party but guess what, we might not pay taxes to the Queen anymore but how many billions does the USA spend helping Britain fight their wars ? Sure-sure we went to war with Iraq just cause we wanted to, funny how Britain was all for it to.

Lets cut off the rest of the world and just spend our US dollars in the USA and no more helping out Europe and see what happens, ha ha...The USA still has to pay taxes to Europe, we just pretend its not a tax and we really want to help Europe....people from 1776 would be shock if they knew how we help out Britain today
 

blackrock13

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Oh, you mean just like implying that a financial investment in a firm which makes voting machines somehow is a) nefarious b) puts you the investor in a position to somehow "rig" voting machines

Not only am I not from one of the counties having problems, I'm not a resident of Florida. So other than sitting on the fence shooting spitballs. . . . . . . .
An investment or a controlling interest? As for Florida, resident or not the stage is set for a three ring circus. I truly believe that the residences will go the extra mile and spit in the face of the Republican governor of Florida, making it clear, don't do this again.
 

blackrock13

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That is true and I laugh how the USA claims its free of Britain--sure, we won the Boston Tea Party but guess what, we might not pay taxes to the Queen anymore but how many billions does the USA spend helping Britain fight their wars ? Sure-sure we went to war with Iraq just cause we wanted to, funny how Britain was all for it to.

Lets cut off the rest of the world and just spend our US dollars in the USA and no more helping out Europe and see what happens, ha ha...The USA still has to pay taxes to Europe, we just pretend its not a tax and we really want to help Europe....people from 1776 would be shock if they knew how we help out Britain today
they tried that earlier last century and looked what happened. The global economy is more intertwined than ever, can't be successfully done. The US has the single biggest economy dollar wise, but it is still only 25% of the world economy. There to much elsewhere to ignore.
 

Aardvark154

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I would have to say that is an insignificant point in light of the God given right the british Monarchy has to reign over the americas.
Sorry to tell you that "The Olive Branch Petition" was ignored by the Imperial Ministry.
 

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Based on the comments from both the right and the left in this election I would say the best way to fix the election is have in place a "means test" for the voter. The amount of ignorance that has been spouted on both sides shows that a fair percentage of the electorate should not be allowed to vote for the person who is going to hold the most important job in the world.
 

Aardvark154

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Rick Ungar reported in Forbes, there is no evidence that Tagg Romney's private equity firm, invests, owns or controls voting machines made by Hart InterCivic.

Factcheck.org. reports that the closest one gets by following the money is to find Tagg Romney's firm invested in Hart InterCivic's medical fund, BioVentures, a wholly separate fund. Or in otherwords there no link at all.
 
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