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booboobear

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MindJohn said:
and then this, later:

Seeming to forget about the fact that we all sit here on this side of the fence where we hunt and hunt for the ideal asian SP, the perfect EU girl, the personable Chilean beauty or the Thai masseuse we may have seen before.

You just can't have it both ways, and if you want it your way, you have to completely respect the reasons, or lack there of, on the opposite side of the equation.



Face it, if we appreciate the very idea that these women are willing to enter into these arrangements we must at least strive to be fair!


If you are in a true business setting, then it is no more, or no less wrong to discriminate against a black person than it is against someone for the size of her chest, or even of her waistline.
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This type of logic makes no sense . i don't see the comparison of someone wanting an east indian girl let's say because he likes them or wants variety to someone refusing someone who is paying. If you were refused service because you were bald ( just an example not saying you are ) would you think that was ok.
 

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spartan5782 said:
But Cindy, how does the Agency screen a phone caller based on skin colour who requests this particular Provider? Do they ask every caller "Excuse me, are you Black? If you are, I'll have to direct you towards another Provider. The one you've chosen that works for us does not see Blacks."

So the caller asks why. Do they go into the story of her past, do they simply tell him she has her reasons and that's it. Do they risk losing a customer or customers? If she worked as a waitress, and she refused to serve Blacks for the same reason, does she get the "White Only" section? Again, not wanting to seem unsympathetic, but how is it her employer's responsibility? She works for them.
I tend to agree with Spartan. I think you are in the wrong business period if you've truly had such a horrific experience with sex.
 

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shanel19 said:
I tend to agree with Spartan. I think you are in the wrong business period if you've truly had such a horrific experience with sex.
A large number of SP's are rape victims beforehand.
 

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Her greatest fear is meeting those three men again,
ESPECIALLY in the course of her work. But given the
events of the past and her age at that time, she is
incapable of identifying them- she would not know
them if they were standing right beside her. But
she does know ONE thing for sure- the colour of their
skins- you can pick a reason for why this stands out
when the rest of the memory is suppressed...
That is what she focuses on... protecting herself
from her greatest fear with the very little useful
knowledge she has available.

It's all about avoiding what she fears, even if she's not
sure what that is...it's not rational and no logical
rule or system will address the root of the problem.
Nor will it be repressed...

Melanin? Black, White, Silver planes...huh? Nothing
changes the fact she was raped by 3 black men (with
myriad other descriptors, to be sure) AND/BUT that fact
provides absolutely no basis for characterizing
black men in general. I just don't think this girl's
trauma and society's problems with race are the same
thing, although we are all familiar with run-of-the-
mill racial intolerance...

I'm only speculating, so maybe I'm way off, but I
doubt it...

Agreeing with Barry-O on the subject of therapy at least
...
 

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For all those people who think that if she were raped by white men she wouldn't refuse to have sex with whites I have to offer up this for consideration (I only have hearsay to back me up and cannot provide stats on this point) some women who have been raped are incapable of having physical contact with men. This could be because they are white women who have been raped by white men. In their daily lives they interact with whites and therefore are fearful of intimacy with a white man. I don't think we should try to analyse someone reaction to having been violated. It involves many factors and we shouldn't judge her for it.
 

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spartan5782 said:
That and your Avatar/Signature pic has my complete and undivided attention!! :)

WOW!!!
Thanks!
 

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n_v said:
A large number of SP's are rape victims beforehand.
what precentage would you say? I'm a SP and I haven't, I just like sex.
 

booboobear

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diver said:
For all those people who think that if she were raped by white men she wouldn't refuse to have sex with whites I have to offer up this for consideration (I only have hearsay to back me up and cannot provide stats on this point) some women who have been raped are incapable of having physical contact with men. It involves many factors and we shouldn't judge her for it.


I could see if she did not want to have sex but to become an sp but refuse black men I don't see.

For some it would seem strange that she a victim of rape becomes an sp although I know this happens.
I feel sorry for the rape but like some have said in some strange way this might have had something to do with her becoming an sp.
It is still wrong to refuse blacks IMO
 

diver

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My point was that this white woman could identify specifically with a visible minority as the color of the rapist. She can then classify other colors as safe. In this case she said no to blacks,but did refer to hispanics or asians. She didn't say she would only see whites which would be more indicative of a prejudice. It is possible that a white woman raped by a white man doesn't have this "safety" factor so she is frightened by all men.
 

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Why hasn't she added anything to the conversation since? I would like to hear her thoughts on our opinions.
 

MindJohn

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How come all other businesses are allowed and witnessed to have signs that clearly state:

"We reserve the right to refuse service to anyone"


and yet some see fit to believe that it doesn't apply to the oldest business on earth?

To say that the woman is wrong, is to think along the lines of, because roughly 12% of the U.S. population is black, that it should be mandated by their government that one of eight whites should marry a black partner.

It might make sense for hiring in jobs where the government can police, and far less sense in educational institutions where it concerns the make-up of the student body.

But no sense at all once a woman is no longer allowed to freely pick and choose who she lets into her vaginal canal.
 
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