Hot or not?

Which would you prefer?

  • Not great looking but great lover

    Votes: 62 66.7%
  • Great looking but not great lover

    Votes: 31 33.3%

  • Total voters
    93

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I read an article recently, (forgive me, I can't find it at the moment), that said that a majority of men from Italy would prefer a woman who was average to below average in looks and who was a great lover, as opposed to a beautiful woman who was average to below average in bed. The opposite held true for American men.

Which would you prefer to be in a relationship with and why?
 
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I'd prefer 'great looking' to 'a great lover'. I'm not a great lover myself but maybe someone who was really hot would inspire me!

jwm
 
Why can't we have both?!

Besides a great looking woman that isn't so great in bed can be taught!:p
 
If we're talking a long-term relationship, then it's no contest: average looking but great in bed.

After all, time takes a toll on all of us.

Besides, those who are genetically lucky and have stunning looks tend to be more narcissistic (a generality, of course) and get hit on all the time.

I personally know couples that aren't great in the looks department - stretch marks on the women and a spare tire around the guy's middle, grey hair making an appearance and wrinkles - that are having sex with enough energy to light up a small city.
 
Looks...

..are WAY over ratted, and as someone else says, as often as not (in fact, more often then not in my experience) comes with baggage I could live without.

All I need is a woman to be attractive ENOUGH to ME. Everybody likes to look at hot chicks, but for example I've sent smoking hot stripper packing just because after one round of drinks I couldn't stand to be around them. I've sabotaged dates with attractive women for the same reason...I just didn't want to invest the time it would take to get them in bed having to listen to and deal with their bullshit, so I just ask them if we can leave and go back and fuck right now and get it over with (in so many words). One actually accepted once...this rather attractive Neve Campbell look alike...LOL...I couldn't believe it.
 
No question...great sex over great looks.

For the guys who are proposing that the great sex part can be "taught"; Sorry, but great sex with a woman doesn't come from "skills" that can be taught, it comes from an insatiable desire to please and be pleased.

You can lead a horse (woman) to water (your dick), but you can't make him (her) drink (swallow).
 
Average looking and great in bed is a fine mix.
 
I disagree...

viking1965 said:
For the guys who are proposing that the great sex part can be "taught"; Sorry, but great sex with a woman doesn't come from "skills" that can be taught, it comes from an insatiable desire to please and be pleased.

You can lead a horse (woman) to water (your dick), but you can't make him (her) drink (swallow).

wholeheartedly with that statement. I have seen this process take place first hand... or maybe I'm just a good teacher! :D
 
Cycleguy007 said:
Men are VERY visual creatures. That much is FACT or else the PORN industry would not be the multi-billion dollar industry it is.

Anyone that says LOOKS are not important are just not being honest with themselves... :rolleyes:

Just my nickels worth.
Nobody's suggesting that it's a choice between an absolute 10+ hottie and someone who looks like a can of crushed assholes.

Of course looks are important. But you know the drill just as well as anyone: For every smokin'-hot chick, there's a guy in her life who is just tired to death of her shit.

Give me a solid 7 who's a tigress in the sack and who can carry on a decent conversation over a 10+ who doesn't care about sex and can only talk about shoes and reality television any day of the week.
 
Cycleguy007 said:
Besides a great looking woman that isn't so great in bed can be taught!:p

Not in my experience.

Sexuality is something that you are born with and is honed at a very early age. Women in their 30's who are still hung up about sex and lousy in the sack will never change (in my experience). You might think you can teach them, but odds are against it.

As to the original question, I'd take good in bed over looks any day. Good looks fade with age, hell, after 2 or 3 weeks, looks become secondary.

Now, that's not saying that I'd want to be with some monstor who was amazing in the sack, but average looking is fine by me. I'm not exactly a GQ model myself. I can handle a bit of a big ass. I'm generally most attracted to a woman's face anyway.

A little humourous story about trying to "teach" a woman.

A few years ago, I met a woman. My age, very intelligent (was a lawyer), nice looking, but had NEVER had an orgasm. In fact, she was very sexually inexperienced. (Later it became clear that her parents had beat it into her skull that good girls keep a dime between their knees at all times.) She knew she had issues and had been seeing a shrink and a med about it.

Then she met me.

Her med doctor was encouraging her to have sex with men.

When she met me, she told me that she had never cum. I thought, "I'll be the one to show her the way"

Ba ha ha.

I tried EVERY trick in the book over a period of a few months. You name it, I did it, including all the phscho babble, love and understanding. I encouraged her to masturbate (she wouldn't think of it). I bought her sex toys (She wouldn't use them - couldn't bring herself to do it.) I used sex toys on her, I went down on her in all fashions till my jaw locked up and my tongue was ready to fall off (the next day I couldn't even speak.) I fucked her in every position. I went down on her using a vibe at the same time. I tried relaying fantasies of all shapes and sizes whilst fucking her thinking that secretly she harboured a desire to be with a woman, a hockey team, a horse. You name it.

She never came.

The last time we were together, I was going mental on her box. She was responding (in as much as she ever did). Right in the middle of my dissertation, she stops me and calls her voicemail at work to check her messages and change her outgoing voicemail message letting others know her time frame (She was OBSESSED with Outgoing voicemail messages - you know the ones that tell you what day it is and what time they'll be in the office.)

She does all this and then says, "where were we"

I just got up, got dressed and never saw her again.

Her problem is not my problem.
 
capncrunch said:
Give me a solid 7 who's a tigress in the sack and who can carry on a decent conversation over a 10+ who doesn't care about sex and can only talk about shoes and reality television any day of the week.

Exactly.
 
capncrunch said:
Nobody's suggesting that it's a choice between an absolute 10+ hottie and someone who looks like a can of crushed assholes.

Of course looks are important. But you know the drill just as well as anyone: For every smokin'-hot chick, there's a guy in her life who is just tired to death of her shit.

Give me a solid 7 who's a tigress in the sack and who can carry on a decent conversation over a 10+ who doesn't care about sex and can only talk about shoes and reality television any day of the week.

LOL... I guess I'm just greedy then... (or maybe shallow...) I want it all! LOL

My SO is considered to be quite attractive by almost everyone we know, (myself included). AND she is a virtual TIGRESS (as you said...) in the sac as well... I just wish she took better care of herself physically... (she's put on a few lbs... still attractive, but about 30-35 lbs overweight) then I wouldn't have to be HERE! LOL!

OK- That's it... I'm shallow, and greedy...;)
 
Exactly....

james t kirk said:
. Good looks fade with age, hell, after 2 or 3 weeks, looks become secondary.

..my point.

After you fuck her 3 or 4 times and think to yourself "man, I can't believe I am fucking someone this hot"...after you've shown her off to all your friends likes she's a new sports car so they can see how hot the girl you are fucking is....then what? Now you have to deal with the fact that she is vain / narcissistic / lame in bed or whatever it was you decided wasn't all that important since she is hot.

Teenage boys think like that.

Insofar as your friend...wow...that is fucked up. But at this point in life, I'd know to avoid her all together. I didn't know that 10 years ago...but I sure as shit do now.

Also, that is interesting, because in my (limited) experience, the smarter a woman is, the more likely she is to be (relatively) open minded and uninhibited about sex. I mean, everyone has their limits, and I think they should be respected...my ex GF wasn't one for toys or kink in general...that just wasn't her...but she was smart, and she sure did like to fuck (and was really orgasmic as well)
 
jwmorrice said:
I'd prefer 'great looking' to 'a great lover'. I'm not a great lover myself but maybe someone who was really hot would inspire me!

jwm


Yeah, romance is not not strong suit in life :D
 
james t kirk said:
Not in my experience.

A little humourous story about trying to "teach" a woman.
POOR WOMAN! I think we can all agree this is a very special case... Thankfully I have never met a woman like this... I'm actually surprised you lasted THAT long...

I heard a wise saying once... A person can only be taught, if they are willing to learn.... Judging by the fact that:

james t kirk said:
I encouraged her to masturbate (she wouldn't think of it). I bought her sex toys (She wouldn't use them - couldn't bring herself to do it.)
I'd have to conclude that she's completely FUBAR.... (but it was not for lack of trying on your part!) sorry bout her luck. Proof again that parents can REALLY f#$& up their kids.
 
viking1965 said:
No question...great sex over great looks.

For the guys who are proposing that the great sex part can be "taught"; Sorry, but great sex with a woman doesn't come from "skills" that can be taught, it comes from an insatiable desire to please and be pleased.

You can lead a horse (woman) to water (your dick), but you can't make him (her) drink (swallow).

Great response! If a person has a bad attitude or thinks they are God, the sex sucks.