If in your view Homosexual behaviour is 'natural', Mr. Ruck, then how would Homosexuals reproduce themselves? Sincerely, Jon .ruck said:The three above posters were obviously born in the age of the dinosaur.
If it was nurture, how do you explain homosexual behaviour from children who are brought up in a heterosexual household? If it was nurture, how do you explain hetersexual children who live with homosexual parents?
mmouse, if it's only nature, how do you explain the offset number of men vs women in the entire world populace? Nature does what nature does. You can try to map every single gnome of nature but it won't be accomplished. You can try to define why or how someone is or can be homosexual but you won't get very far. It's not about preference. It's not about parents being homosexual so the kids will be just as homosexual.
How then do you explain bisexuality? Is that nurture or nature?
If it's nurture, how do you explain a farm boy who is totally cut off from homosexual influence being a homosexual? I personally know a couple farm boy homosexuals. They frequent my business. If you never knew they were gay, you would never guess it. They act straight, obviously look like a reg cowboy but are as flaming as the walkers of the pride parade.
It's nature. The only way it's nurture is when the parents/guardians are supportive of homosexuality as natural.
acutus said:If in your view Homosexual behaviour is 'natural', Mr. Ruck, then how would Homosexuals reproduce themselves? Sincerely, Jon .
Compromised said:Random mutations happen in nature all the time. Also, recessive genes. If it were not for recessive genes, there would be no blue eyed people. Or blondes.
If it was just as you suggest Acutus, could you please explain how two "normal" parents could produce a Downs Syndrom child?
Please try and control your emotions, Mr. Ruck. I have answered the question of this Thread. The Evolutionary and Biological purpose of sex is to create Life. There is no Evolutionary, Biological, Morphological or Physiological context for males having sex with one and other. Males may chose to have sex with one and other, but the result of that behaviour is a deadly, incurable, infectious anal disease that has killed millions and millions and millions of innocent peope and possibly poisoned Human sexuality permenantly. Heterosexual sex produces Life. Homosexual sex produces an infectious Death. It all seems easy to understand to me. Sincerely, Jon .ruck said:You're a retard.
Procreation is a different topic, lets stay on topic.
So first, answer my questions before answering with a question.
Conditioned how, Mr. Solitaria? Sincerely, Jon .solitaria said:I would say sexuality is conditioned behaviour which basically means behaviour that is learned in order to best acquire a set of needs and desires where the interaction is both unique to the individual and the environment that the individual finds their self in.
Could you please provide us with a couple of examples of Homosexuality occurring in Nature, Mr. Dave in Phoenix? In the meantime, I would point out that rapists and murderers are also known 'from the beginning of time'. Sincerely, Jon .Dave in Phoenix said:Gayness is also common in nature as well as mankind from the beginning of time.
acutus said:Could you please provide us with a couple of examples of Homosexuality occurring in Nature, Mr. Dave in Phoenix? In the meantime, I would point out that rapists and murderers are also known 'from the beginning of time'. Sincerely, Jon .
What is all this, Mr. Reg? Who and what is Mitchell, 1979, pps: 134-142, for example? What recognized academic Journal is this, and indeed all your cited examples from? How is Homosexual behaviour defined in your cited examples? Do you include lions, for example, that have paired up to hunt cooperatively or have you only included the documented examples of male donkeys, porcupines and elephants that have decided to anally fornicate with one and other purely for the fun of it? Sincerely, Jon .reg said:In the non-human primate groups, incidences of homosexuality have been recognised in the activities of rhesus monkeys, female stumptail macaques (Mitchell, 1979, pp. 134 &142), Japanese macaques (Mehlman & Chapais, 1988; Mitchell, 1979, p. 416) male chimpanzees, female bonobos, male mountain gorillas, male siamangs, male white-handed gibbons (Wrangham, 1986, p. 367; Yamagiwa, 1987; Yamagiwa, 1992; Edwards & Todd, 1991) and male pygmy chimpanzees (Savage & Bakeman, 1978).
Fedigan ( 1992; p142 ) writes that female-female sexual behaviour has been noted in ‘the squirrel-monkey ( Talmage-Riggs & Anschel 1973 ), the vervet ( Struhsaker 1967a ) and the talapoin ( Wolfheim & Rowell 1972 ), and Meredith Small also references incidences of female-female sexual activity amongst bonobos ( 1993: p144-5 ), Japanese macaques ( 1993; p145-6 ) and Indian langurs ( 1993; p146-7 ).
Other mammals noted for homosexual activities include: female cattle (Short, 1984)’, burros (Flinders, 1993), Male mountain sheep (Weinrich, 1982; Denniston, 1980), giraffes, rats (Kirsch & Rodman, 1982), dolphins, dogs (West, 1977, p. 116), female red deer (Short, 1984), donkeys, cats, rams, goats, pigs, antelope, elephants, hyenas, rabbits, lions, porcupines, hamsters, mice, and porpoises (Weinrich, 1982).
There have also been reports of homosexual pairings in several species of birds: female pairings of Western gulls, ring-billed gulls, California gulls (Weinrich, 1982; Davies, 1991; Denniston, 1980), budgerigars (also called undulated or shell parakeets) (Kavanau, 1987, pp. 41 &119); also mallard ducks whom consorted only with other males during the ‘imprinting period’, itself equivalent to human puberty (West, 1977, p. 43).
acutus said:What is all this, Mr. Reg? Who and what is Mitchell, 1979, pps: 134-142, for example? What recognized academic Journal is this, and indeed all your cited examples from? How is Homosexual behaviour defined in your cited examples? Do you include lions, for example, that have paired up to hunt cooperatively or have you only included the documented examples of male donkeys, porcupines and elephants that have decided to anally fornicate with one and other purely for the fun of it? Sincerely, Jon .
What essays? What theses? What dissertations and other publications are you talking about, Mr. Reg? From what recognized academic Journals are your cited examples from? Why should I, the reader, be expected to research the examples that you have cited to support your claim? It's up to you to back up your claims, Mr. Reg, not the reader's. It's your responsibility to provide your own documentation, not the reader's! Sincerely, Jon .reg said:They are various essays, theses, dissertations and other publications on the subject of homosexuality in the animal kingdom. A TINY bit of effort on your part should put them at your fingertips.
You asked for examples. There they are complete with documentation. I won't read them to you.
acutus said:...We should insist that Homosexuals simply tell the Truth about their choice in Life, and ensure that their 'culture' of disease and death is in no way allowed to be seen as 'equal' to the Heterosexual culture of Life. Sincerely, Jon .
Yeah...right. Since you're talking about 'credibility', maybe you could provide the sources for your cited examples...? Sincerely, Jon .reg said:Sorry. You lost all credibility with this post. Continue to troll if you wish. I'm not playing anymore.
eyeofthedragon said:who else has acutus on their ignore list
acutus said:What essays? What theses?