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Yoga Face

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the brutality of this film really happened

never knew slaves not allowed to ride horses and had zero rights. Not even the right to live unless they were granted freedom by their master

While Django is free he is not equal and would not have been allowed to have a gun and been a bounty hunter

film is very one sided as some slave owners did treat their slaves as extended family

i visited a slave plantation that is run by descendants and that is what they told me

the slaves homes were nice cottages










 

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Supposedly the slave fights were made up. Other inaccuracies at http://whatculture.com/film/7-historical-inaccuracies-in-django-unchained.php/8
these guns were inaccurately used in the film: the Cobra “Big Bore” Derringer , Sharps Cavarly and the Henry 1860

slaves were not as placid as depicted as there were revolts and masters would die of poisoning and houses and barns would "accidentally" catch fire

many blacks joined the union army to fight back

A Nefertiti bust was on display in the film and and she was not discovered yet

DiCaprio drank his " Polynesian pearl diver" through a straw

did they say "motherfucker" back then?

The use of dynamite was inaccurate Although in England it had been patented and sold a year earlier than the events depicted in Django Unchained, dynamite didn’t explode in America until 1867.

Ku Klux Klan was first formed in 1865 – 7 years after the events depicted in Django Unchained - so one must question the use of hoods and torches

as far as the plot goes having Django ride into candyland where his wife might suddenly see him then give him away is weak

the essence of the film is to show how brutal slaves were treated by some masters and Tarantino still claims Mandingo fighting was real

one has to question his motivation in saying this and the plot of some of his other movies ( such as Reservoir Dogs ) is absurd

he is not a genius

he just realizes the audience wants sax and violins (sex and violence)

always has always will

so he upped the anty
 
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saxon

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I think Hollywood calls it "artistic license" or something like that.
 

Yoga Face

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Al Gore's environmental documentary An Inconvenient Truth contains nine key scientific errors, a High Court judge ruled

The judge declined to ban the Academy Award-winning film from British schools, but ruled that it can only be shown with guidance notes to prevent political indoctrination.


But Judge Michael Burton ruled yesterday that errors had arisen "in the context of alarmism and exaggeration" in order to support Mr Gore's thesis on global warming.

His criticism followed an unsuccessful attempt by Stewart Dimmock, a Kent school governor, to block the Government's plan to screen the documentary in more than 3,500 secondary schools

It is, he ruled, a "political film".

The nine alleged errors in the film

Mr Gore claims that a sea-level rise of up to 20 feet would be caused by melting of either West Antarctica or Greenland "in the near future". The judge said: "This is distinctly alarmist and part of Mr Gore's "wake-up call". He agreed that if Greenland melted it would release this amount of water - "but only after, and over, millennia"."

The film claims that low-lying inhabited Pacific atolls "are being inundated because of anthropogenic global warming" but the judge ruled there was no evidence of any evacuation having yet happened.

The documentary speaks of global warming "shutting down the Ocean Conveyor" - the process by which the Gulf Stream is carried over the North Atlantic to western Europe. Citing the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), the judge said that it was "very unlikely" that the Ocean Conveyor would shut down in the future, though it might slow down.

Mr Gore claims that two graphs, one plotting a rise in C02 and the other the rise in temperature over a period of 650,000 years, showed "an exact fit". The judge said that, although there was general scientific agreement that there was a connection, "the two graphs do not establish what Mr Gore asserts".

Mr Gore says the disappearance of snow on Mt Kilimanjaro was directly attributable to global warming, but the judge ruled that it scientists have not established that the recession of snow on Mt Kilimanjaro is primarily attributable to human-induced climate change.

The film contends that the drying up of Lake Chad is a prime example of a catastrophic result of global warming but the judge said there was insufficient evidence, and that "it is apparently considered to be far more likely to result from other factors, such as population increase and over-grazing, and regional climate variability."

Mr Gore blames Hurricane Katrina and the consequent devastation in New Orleans on global warming, but the judge ruled there was "insufficient evidence to show that".

Mr Gore cites a scientific study that shows, for the first time, that polar bears were being found after drowning from "swimming long distances - up to 60 miles - to find the ice" The judge said: "The only scientific study that either side before me can find is one which indicates that four polar bears have recently been found drowned because of a storm."That was not to say there might not in future be drowning-related deaths of bears if the trend of regression of pack ice continued - "but it plainly does not support Mr Gore's description".

Mr Gore said that coral reefs all over the world were being bleached because of global warming and other factors. Again citing the IPCC, the judge agreed that, if temperatures were to rise by 1-3 degrees centigrade, there would be increased coral bleaching and mortality, unless the coral could adapt. However, he ruled that separating the impacts of stresses due to climate change from other stresses, such as over-fishing, and pollution was difficult.
 

Insidious Von

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Since it isn't a Hollywood film, there probably isn't any artistic license in this film:

 

jcpro

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The U-571 did redeem itself although very slightly, the closing credits actually did state it was the Brits that actually captured the decoder machine. Another WW2 that isnt on the list is Enemy At The Gates, the 2 sniper dudes did exist but the German dude Konig was supposedly nowhere near Stalingrad during the war as the duel between the 2 was pure Soviet fantasy propaganda.
On the other hand, Enemy At The Gates got a lot of things right like the blocking units shooting own troops, pointless wave attacks( reason why Russians lost 20 million people), etc.
 

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these guns were inaccurately used in the film: the Cobra “Big Bore” Derringer , Sharps Cavarly and the Henry 1860

slaves were not as placid as depicted as there were revolts and masters would die of poisoning and houses and barns would "accidentally" catch fire

many blacks joined the union army to fight back

A Nefertiti bust was on display in the film and and she was not discovered yet

DiCaprio drank his " Polynesian pearl diver" through a straw

did they say "motherfucker" back then?

The use of dynamite was inaccurate Although in England it had been patented and sold a year earlier than the events depicted in Django Unchained, dynamite didn’t explode in America until 1867.

Ku Klux Klan was first formed in 1865 – 7 years after the events depicted in Django Unchained - so one must question the use of hoods and torches

as far as the plot goes having Django ride into candyland where his wife might suddenly see him then give him away is weak

the essence of the film is to show how brutal slaves were treated by some masters and Tarantino still claims Mandingo fighting was real

one has to question his motivation in saying this and the plot of some of his other movies ( such as Reservoir Dogs ) is absurd

he is not a genius

he just realizes the audience wants sax and violins (sex and violence)

always has always will

so he upped the anty
Interesting points. A lot of the criticisms are accurate.

"Motherfucker" was certainly in use in America in 1914. A recent commentary on British army slang in WW1 noted that the Tommies did not use "motherfucker", but Doughboys did.

I tried to find the date of the first Sharps carbine. This was complicated by the (obvious) fact that there were numerous models as gunsmithing leapt technically through the late 1800's. But at least 1 early model of the Sharps carbine was in use in 1852.

There is at least 1 other work of fiction which references Mandingo Fighting. George MacDonald Fraser (the late author of the renown Flashman series) wrote a work called "Black Ajax" about Tom Molyneaux, a black prizefighter in the early 1800's wherein the protagonist had been trained to box on a Virginia Plantation as a slave. Fraser was a far better historian than anyone writing for Hollywood. Molyneaux was a real character and his wiki bio is linked below.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Molineaux
 

Insidious Von

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So how much of Munich is accurate? It's Steven Speilberg's last great film.

And the hitwoman the Mossad track down is Canadian. Marie Josee Croze, she's also an Atom Egoyan regular.

 

Yoga Face

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Interesting points. A lot of the criticisms are accurate.

"Motherfucker" was certainly in use in America in 1914. A recent commentary on British army slang in WW1 noted that the Tommies did not use "motherfucker", but Doughboys did.

I tried to find the date of the first Sharps carbine. This was complicated by the (obvious) fact that there were numerous models as gunsmithing leapt technically through the late 1800's. But at least 1 early model of the Sharps carbine was in use in 1852.

There is at least 1 other work of fiction which references Mandingo Fighting. George MacDonald Fraser (the late author of the renown Flashman series) wrote a work called "Black Ajax" about Tom Molyneaux, a black prizefighter in the early 1800's wherein the protagonist had been trained to box on a Virginia Plantation as a slave. Fraser was a far better historian than anyone writing for Hollywood. Molyneaux was a real character and his wiki bio is linked below.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Molineaux
slaves were very expensive

so slave ships got rich very quickly

to kill your best slaves in a death match seems very expensive

Molyneaux was a prize fighter not a mandingo where they fought to death


in the film it was talked about like it was a celebrated sport as King Shultz claimed he was going to advertise Eskimo Joe to draw the crowds

if death fights accorded at such a public level then there would be no doubt as to their popularity among historians

i would never trust Tarantino to get anything right
 
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