In some respects, Hitler was ahead of his time. He was certainly one of the greatest, if not the greatest, orators of all time. The British have always had a secret underlying "respect" (not admiration) for him because of his ability to efficiently control the masses and for his characteristically-German ability to "organize" things. He obviously went too far, and much too far, in certain areas but he was a genius of sorts, albeit an evil one. Regarding his "Thousand-Year Reich", there's little doubt that Hitler will be remembered 1000 years from now whereas the "great" politicians of today will be totally unknown. So the philosophical question remains, is it better to die young and be remembered for a thousand years or to live to the age of 110 and remain eternally forgotten ....... ? What would YOUR choice be?!
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It' sounding like a Fuji question, rather limited, but hey.
what make you think that the Brits felt that way. I certainly haven't met anyone.
I stated that it's a "secret underlying" respect, so no one is likely to admit it to you! I'm British myself by the way lol!
Hitler was really pissed when the TTC went down
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSjeUk22uT0
He is also an ardent Maple Leafs Fan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dry6bqzZbFc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSjeUk22uT0
He is also an ardent Maple Leafs Fan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dry6bqzZbFc
I'm going to suggest that you may feel this way, but to speak of it as general feeling is a stretch.
What is actually being said (if you don't speak German) in the famous scene from Downfall http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bmkUlXp5sk
I have no idea why you say Hitler was ahead of his time.
He was a very good orator, but there were orators thousands of years before him that we have good reason to believe were just as good, and some after him as well.
Hitler himself was not a great organizer, but he had some people underneath him who were very talented and the German culture tends to be organized, hierarchical and productivity oriented.
In fact, by the middle of the war, the competition between the political and military arms, and the inefficiency of Goebbels, and other internal rivalries that Hitler encouraged kept Germany from reaching peak industrial and military efficiency.
I would reccomend you consider reading "Wages of Destruction." for a really good overview of German organizational failings in WWII.
The people of Germany was eager to follow Hitler because he promised to bring the country out of deep depression where a wheel barrel of money was required to buy a loaf of bread in Germany at the time. He also promised to rid the country of Jews that had money to buy up all the property for almost nothing.
Stalin and Mao did not set up death camps, so they are not even in the same league as Hitler
Stalin and Mao did not set up death camps, so they are not even in the same league as Hitler
You obviously have never heard of the Gulags. You also need to read up on the Holomodor. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor
Caused by Stalin.
I agree. We look at Alexander the Great as a hero, and also Ceasar and Napoloen. All have killed men. Alexander genocided the people of Thebes, and Tyre.
How is Hitler any different. He transformed Germany from ruins into the most powerful nation in Europe. Proving one man can change the course of history.
Men are usually judged by historians by their impact on history. Hitler was the first to give animals rights.
Of course not to condone all the bad done by him as well. But again how was Alexander different?
The Gulags were prisons, the conditions were no where as good as modern day Canadian prisons. They were never set up as extermination camps.
There is no question that Hitler had a real gift with words. The Nazi movement reminds us of just how easy it is for one man to manipulate people into following ideas that they should otherwise know are wrong. Hitler managed to convince enough followers and used them to intimidate and force the others to fall in line.
WWII and the holocaust are examples of the death and destruction that a megalomaniac like Hitler can cause just by using words to manipulate people.
The Germans are otherwise fairly intelligent, rational and moral people. If it can happen in Germany, it can happen anywhere.
That’s a scary notion.
Hitler was by no means the only one, or even the worse one in history. It’s really disturbing just how often these kinds of guys come to power and the destruction that they can cause.
The main difference is that Hitler gets way too much air-time compared to the others.
Men like Mao, Stalin, Muhammad, Pol Pot and Hitler are the true evil in the world and it need to remind ourselves to be vigilant to never let that happen again.
WWII and the holocaust are examples of the death and destruction that a megalomaniac like Hitler can cause just by using words to manipulate people.
The Germans are otherwise fairly intelligent, rational and moral people. If it can happen in Germany, it can happen anywhere.
That’s a scary notion.
Hitler was by no means the only one, or even the worse one in history. It’s really disturbing just how often these kinds of guys come to power and the destruction that they can cause.
The main difference is that Hitler gets way too much air-time compared to the others.
Men like Mao, Stalin, Muhammad, Pol Pot and Hitler are the true evil in the world and it need to remind ourselves to be vigilant to never let that happen again.
Is there a difference between camps designed to systematically murder people and camps where conditions were poor enought that many eventually died?
And take rights from people.
There is a huge moral difference between death from military conquest and the systematic elimination of your own citizens. Alexander, Napoleon, and Caesar were admired for their amazing skills as generals. Hitler was an abject failure as a general. Just because you have a hard on for the mustachioed one doesn't stop him from deserving the shit that the world heaps on him.
In the final months of the war he was a real stubborn delirious general, throwing his last reserves against all odds. But the first years of the war didn't make him an abject failure.
