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bababuey

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like clockwork, another new "I am falling for an SP" thread appears.

turtlelover - do a search on this topic in this forum. You'll see many prior posts by various clients who gets infatuated with their favorite provider (SP, dancer, MPA, etc). Anyway, most of us has been where you are... develop feelings for our favorite provider at one time or another.. usually during our early stages of this hobby. I also remember being 20 and how naive I was.

there will always be a newbie, they might as well learn for the veteras mistakes!
 

Rockslinger

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there will always be a newbie, they might as well learn for the veteras mistakes!
Yeah, Jessica made the point that we have to keep refreshing these threads because newbies (although I suspect a few are "recycled" TERBies) are joining all the time.
 

turtlelover

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The other big factor from the SP's point of view is why the guy has been seeing SPs?

A man says "I am too busy to do the dating thing" = He will be too busy for me if I fall for him.
A man says "My wife does not understand me" = He will say the same about me in a few years.
A man says "I do not want to get involved" = Why?

It goes on and on.

If a man cannot easily pick up a civilian at the grocery store, do I really want him?

Is he desperate enough to settle for anyone? do I really want to be the one he settled for?

Is he trying to get an Sp so he can carve a notch in his bed post or brag to his friends?

A nice widower who is afraid to be hurt again is a nice choice ;).

It is also a great idea to talk to other women he had flings with.

So I guess I am agreeing with you. It is not easy to get involved with an SP and making it work.
The first time I saw her she opened the door and looked at me so puzzled, as if I didn't belong there or something. She told me I wasn't what she was expecting and I was one of the only guys who made eye contact with her when she was naked, I was just nervous. I have a feeling if she was older (24+) I wouldn't have a problem its just the fact that she is my age and looks like she can be your average DDG student living the life.
 

Nate1

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I don't think it's a particularly good idea to ask her out. There's an extremely high chance that you're going to get rejected. But if you really like her, fuck it, take the chance.

Just try not to make it akward for her. Wait till you're about to leave, at the very end of the session, and give her your phone number. There's a 99.9999% chance she won't call you, but who knows, it's possible she's into you too. Just whatever you do don't ask her if she'll go out with you. That puts her in a really uncomfortable possition.

Effie
TL if you want to find out (as it looks like you do) and you can't be convinced otherwise then follow this advise to the letter. After this, leave the ball completely in her court.

Wait.

The next move would be to wait some more, and if she doesn't call you move on and don't see her again. If she does call see where it goes, be open and that includes your eyes. End here.

If you insist on seeing her again (not a good idea) wait a minimum of one moth to call her for an appointment.

Stay cool, stay cool!
 

mrsCALoki

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TL if you want to find out (as it looks like you do) and you can't be convinced otherwise then follow this advise to the letter. After this, leave the ball completely in her court.

Wait.

The next move would be to wait some more, and if she doesn't call you move on and don't see her again. If she does call see where it goes, be open and that includes your eyes. End here.

If you insist on seeing her again (not a good idea) wait a minimum of one moth to call her for an appointment.

Stay cool, stay cool!
The sad part is that if we are really good at our job and making the guy think it was an amazing special connection we get pushed into embarrassing and annoying situations.

sad
 

Nate1

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The sad part is that if we are really good at our job and making the guy think it was an amazing special connection we get pushed into embarrassing and annoying situations.

sad
TL is a young man starting out on his life and has every right to make mistakes, dealing with a guy falling for you is an occupational hazzard of the profession.

TL if you can channel what the 50 year old TL would advise you--listen.

Stay cool!
 

CapitalGuy

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The sad part is that if we are really good at our job and making the guy think it was an amazing special connection we get pushed into embarrassing and annoying situations.

sad
Your fake internet persona is built on your having been an SP who saw only one client, and married him. So despite your weird desire to be seen as some sort of "savant ex-hooker", your pretend internet character does not have any credibility in that vein, having seen only one "client", whom you supposedly fell in love with and had a baby with, instead of having tricked him into thinking you liked him, as this post would imply. You need a script supervisor or simply need to keep tighter notes if you are going to continue pretending to be a woman who used to be a medical student but chose not to take your final exams because you were also a part-time prostitute who saw only one client who offered you your weight in gold to marry him, sir.
 

Ridgeman08

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Shill!

I mean...

well Ridgeman ... there are drawbacks to being a true BFE, and you certainly are one.
Drawbacks? Well if you call my PM box filling up with offers for me to see them a drawback, then yes... it is! LoL :confused:


You're an A+ client, a perfect gentleman and you're wild in the sack ...


but I would still never, ever suggest you stop seeing other ladies. Highly inappropriate IMO.
OK... so we agree to see others then. :thumb: :D
 

Terminax

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I'm hardly the oldest or most experienced person here but I'd echo the sentiment that you should see hang out with normal people and take a break from seeing this SP. What you're experiencing isn't love, it's infatuation and it'll lead you to heartbreak sooner or later.
 

Nate1

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This is true but contrary to what she said, its neither embarrassing or annoying if someone can gracefully accept when a lady politely declines.

Understood, if everyone keeps honest and kind we're good.

(ppssst... I have her on ignore, but unfortunately, when you quote her I can see her posts :( )
Sorry, I feel your pain.:frown:
 

Don

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The first time I saw her she opened the door and looked at me so puzzled, as if I didn't belong there or something.
The average age of a client is usually much older than yourself. They expect (and often prefer) an older man.
 

Nate1

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meh ... its just silly, how can she say she knows what it feels like to have a client fall for you. Unless it was her husband who made her feel embarrassed and annoyed when he offered her the retirement package. Anyways, it's easier when she's on ignore. I think most people have done that, so she is rarely quoted or responded to much any more. Phew.
Sounds like a club worth joining.
 

turtlelover

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This is true but contrary to what she said, its neither embarrassing or annoying if someone can gracefully accept when a lady politely declines.

(ppssst... I have her on ignore, but unfortunately, when you quote her I can see her posts :( )
All I need is that closure, if I get it then I will respect it no matter the outcome.
 

turtlelover

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The average age of a client is usually much older than yourself. They expect (and often prefer) an older man.
and if they are roughly the same age and getting paid just as much why would they prefer older men?
 

turtlelover

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Some of the reasons that I've seen coming up often in threads similar to this one:

Less likely with older men that feelings will get in the way
Less awkward for the lady because of the age difference
Less awkward for the lady because they often don't understand why a young guy needs to see a SP
Older men tend to tip better, or to bring gifts
Older men tend to be less of the wham, bam, thank you ma'am type; tend to take their time with the lady
Older men tend last longer in bed
Older men know (more) what they're doing
Because older men have more life experience, there is more to talk about with them
Older men have seen more of the world, there is more to talk about with them
Older men have better manners and are more considerate
Older men are more gentle; less interested in non-stop pounding
Older men have more self-confidence
Older men are less likely to ask the lady out
Repeat clients tend to be older clients; young guys just want to add a notch on their belt, they don't tend to be repeat clients

And the list goes on...
reverdyyy......you my friend need to PM me
 

mrsCALoki

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This is true but contrary to what she said, its neither embarrassing or annoying if someone can gracefully accept when a lady politely declines.

(ppssst... I have her on ignore, but unfortunately, when you quote her I can see her posts :( )

Since you feel an urge to address me:

That is true, but sadly boys that get infatuated seldom can take a hint. And only an ogress would not feel bad having to shatter someones dreams and desires. But if the guy can take a hint and accept the "no thank you" it is relatively painless.

People should not assume this is restricted to this industry. Any attractive girl has had to reject boys since she was in her early teens. Odds at least a few were embarrassing and annoying. The issue in the industry is that the danger exists that the guy somehow gets the idea that the commercial act translate to "acceptance" of a personal relationship in the mind of the guy.

As nate1 pointed out, it is an occupational hazard,
 

mrsCALoki

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meh ... its just silly, how can she say she knows what it feels like to have a client fall for you. Unless it was her husband who made her feel embarrassed and annoyed when he offered her the retirement package. Anyways, it's easier when she's on ignore. I think most people have done that, so she is rarely quoted or responded to much any more. Phew.
I firmly believe that there is a wide range of personalities and motivations and marketing styles in the sex industry.
during my trip to
In 2009/2010 I hit a financial wall and needed $40,000 to get through it.

I like many SPs was abused as a child. I like many abused girls was volunteering at a shelter. I became intimately aware of the stories of dozens of sex trade workers. When I decided to accept the risks and problems of the industry as a viable path to getting out of debt I joined a few sex trade boards to get more insight on the financial aspects.

I had booked several clients for my first week in Toronto, Lord Loki was my first. He liked me a lot and he convinced me to cancel the other appointments and give him the entire week. Only an idiot would turn down $2,000 a day with one man to please and keep the $1,000 a day with multiple men. None the less it did make me feel uncomfortable. It was to "real", and I suspected that it meant a lot more to him that to me. I grew up in a pretty typical upper middle class family, but our family were wine merchants, so I had seen how wealthy people lived, and suddenly I was shipping the champagne instead of delivering it.

None the less of course I felt embarrassed being on the arm of an older man in public. If he had not treated me with reserve in public it would have been annoying as well. If he had decided we were connected and etc etc I would have become very annoyed and dumped him.

He monopolized my time that week, and booked any time I had available to work. The more time we spent together the more we got to know each other. After a few hundred hours I realized I was attracted to not only the life style, but to him. Once I had netted my target $40,000 and my debts were gone and tuition paid, I told him I would never be a paid toy again. I basically threw him out. I also chased him to the elevators and said "I hear you may be looking for a GF?"

After that we both had to go through some rough times re-defining our relationship. Either he had to join me in my middle class dreams of becoming a doctor, or I had to join him in his well off retired dreams.

So yes, I am aware that not all sex workers are the same. I know that for many it is something they do because they just need the money. I know some enjoy it because they crave the attention. I know some have classic inferiority complexes that make them vulnerable and in need of continuous attention.

I also know and accept that the secret of of having long term regulars is all about how you make them feel. Most men like to feel special and will pay and pay and pay if that feeling. Those that just want sex seldom book multiple hours. Cocks are satisfied in minutes, minds take hours to be satiated.

I also know that most sex workers are in it for the short term, a very few years at most, and a few are in it well past menopause. I came to the conclusion that the motivation and beliefs are very very different.

I also accept that my feisty in your face attitude attracts a very different type of man than a sweet marketing story. I also accept that is id counter productive for some women to not be supportive of clients. It is their bread and butter.

As for my life style choice..... Loki was willing to join me in my dreams, he was willing to teach in Toronto while I finished my training. But his personal dream was to retire and sail the world. Odds are I will have him for only another 20 years. I decided to put my dreams on hold and share every moment we have available for those years.

My statement stands. It takes a few hundred hours to know someone well enough to love them. Most attractive girls learn early on that boys who "fall" for them within a few hours are jerks, are annoying, and most will be embarrassing in public. Of course the same is true of clients. Why do you think so many SPs have already said they would stop seeing any client who started getting to serious?

:)
 

mrsCALoki

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Some of the reasons that I've seen coming up often in threads similar to this one:

Less likely with older men that feelings will get in the way
Less awkward for the lady because of the age difference
Less awkward for the lady because they often don't understand why a young guy needs to see a SP
Older men tend to tip better, or to bring gifts
Older men tend to be less of the wham, bam, thank you ma'am type; tend to take their time with the lady
Older men tend last longer in bed
Older men know (more) what they're doing
Because older men have more life experience, there is more to talk about with them
Older men have seen more of the world, there is more to talk about with them
Older men have better manners and are more considerate
Older men are more gentle; less interested in non-stop pounding
Older men have more self-confidence
Older men are less likely to ask the lady out
Repeat clients tend to be older clients; young guys just want to add a notch on their belt, they don't tend to be repeat clients

And the list goes on...

Pretty much the only down sides with older clients are:

Well they may not look as good. Although some can look much better.

On the general dating side:

If you are pretty and they are much older people assume you are a gold digger.

Your Father gets upset if your lover is older than he is :)

In my experience, about 1/2 your friends do not get it.

Most girls my age do not have what it takes to keep an older man interested day in day out.

:)

By the way, ever notice most civilian girls in High School and University prefer men older than they are?
 
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