highway 407 bill question

[Czech-mate]

hey guys,

i posed this question to the 407 customer service, and before i even asked the real question, i had to argue with the guy that there was no "peak hours" on the weekend since the whole weekend was considered "off peak".

i've taken the time to multiply the distance of each trip by the appropriate rate and sum them all up.

I'm consistently being overcharged over the last few bills unless it's suppose to include GST. The odd thing is they always list PST and GST as zero.

So, does the toll charges include GST or not? thanks.

my hobby money is at stake here.

 

[shrek71]

If your hobby money is at stake here, then by all means stop using the 407 and go enjoy yourself more with the savings.

 

[Questor]

Your question is mute as they will charge you what they want when they want and you have no recourse to appeal their decision. I'd suggest you travel on 401 instead, but that would be just adding one more car to that mess. Better yet, use public transit.

 

[1HandInMyPocket]

looking at their website, the tolls are tax exempt. However, did you also include your tranponder lease cost. The lease is taxed, I believe.

 

[Robio]

I found the rates to be really out there when you do not have a transponder. I do not have a transponder because I rarely use the 407.
I used it once from 404 to Dufferin one way and the bill was over $15 on a Sunday evening after 7pm. I thought that was high so I avoid it unless I am really pinched for time. Some things I do not like to pay for no matter how small the charge is like, air for my tires, parking, using the washroom, use of roads bridges or HWYs, and entrance to a bar

 

[Papi Chulo]

Don't Pay It

 

[shakenbake]

I found the rates to be really out there when you do not have a transponder. I do not have a transponder because I rarely use the 407.
I used it once from 404 to Dufferin one way and the bill was over $15 on a Sunday evening after 7pm. I thought that was high so I avoid it unless I am really pinched for time. Some things I do not like to pay for no matter how small the charge is like, air for my tires, parking, using the washroom, use of roads bridges or HWYs, and entrance to a bar

I once had an appointment at Frankie Tomato's, and had to leave from Mississauga (Highway 10 and 401)to get there. Funny thing, another invitee left before I did form Keele and Finch to the same destination. He left before I did and took the 407. I took the 401 during rush hour. Guess who got there with about at least 15 minutes to spare before the other person arrived!

When I worked in Missisauga, a lot of people asked me why I didn't take the 407 from Brock Road to get to work. Where I live, it would have added at least another 30 minutes one way to my travel time, just to get onto the 407, and would have cost me about twice what I was paying for gas with my car, adding about $25 to my daily commute.

The moral of the story is that, sometimes, the 407 takes you way out form where you are going and actually wastes your time, if you are not careful. And, it costs you a lot (way too much IMHO compared to other toll routes in North America) to get there. It just isn't worth it for me, personally, after having tried it, and after all that I have observed. I think that the excessive tolls are deterrents to many people, as well. If the governments of the day (Peterson, Rae and Harris) had really wanted to alleviate traffic congestion through the GTA, they would have NOT built a toll route, IMHO.

 

[Keebler Elf]

Get used to it. Tolls (in some fashion or another) are the way of the future on our roads.

 

[shack]

Your question is mute

Moot.

 

[1HandInMyPocket]

Moot.

yup, like a cow says.

 

[Questor]

Moot.

LOL Yes, what I meant to say is that my mute neighbour believes that it is a moot point. I was telling him about the 407 ripoff and he just shrugged his shoulders. Thanks for the clarification.

 

[Robio]

Not a good idea

Don't Pay It

I am to understand that the 407 ETR can be collected on ones license sticker or license renewal.
The interest on the unpaid amount makes a mafia interest loan look good.
Pay it, and pay it fast!

I wish I could have this leverage when collecting money off of my accounts.

 

[Papi Chulo]

I am to understand that the 407 ETR can be collected on ones license sticker or license renewal.
The interest on the unpaid amount makes a mafia interest loan look good.
Pay it, and pay it fast!

I wish I could have this leverage when collecting money off of my accounts.

I had a bill of a few hundred dollars about 5 years ago and never paid it. I have never heard anything from them... maybe I will call them in a couple years and ask whatever happened to it!

 

[maurice93]

I had a bill of a few hundred dollars about 5 years ago and never paid it. I have never heard anything from them... maybe I will call them in a couple years and ask whatever happened to it!

When it first opened, and was operated by the government, the 407 had the ability to deny your license plate renewal if there was no payment. Then due to many billing issues this right was taken away from the private owners. However, the 407 satisfactorily corrected these billing issues and were recently (in the past year or so) granted the ability to collect through the registrar again. either the government of Ontario gave them the access, or the government lost the court case ... one of the two. But the 407 now has the ability to request the registrar deny renewal of plates if you do not pay.

Five years ago they had no power to do this... now they do..., you may be in for a little surprise next time you go to get your license renewed.... and you will be far from the only one.

 

[Papi Chulo]

Five years ago they had no power to do this... now they do..., you may be in for a little surprise next time you go to get your license renewed.... and you will be far from the only one.

Unless somebody moves out of province

 

[maurice93]

Unless somebody moves out of province

Depends which one.