Here we go again: Ukraine’s Euro 2020 soccer shirt to carry slogan of Holocaust perpetrators, weeks after arena named for WWII Nazi massacre leader

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Ukraine’s national soccer team has sparked outrage online after unveiling its new kit for Euro 2020, which features the rallying cry of Nazi collaborators who played a significant role in the murder of Jews and Poles during WWII.

The yellow and blue shirt, shown to the public on Sunday, is branded with the words ‘glory to Ukraine’ and ‘glory to heroes’. While the slogans have a long history, dating back to the writings of the country’s national poet, Taras Shevchenko, in the 1800s, they have since gained more sinister associations. Both phrases were used by members of the Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists (OUN) and the Ukrainian Insurgent Army (UPA), paramilitary groups that historians say fought alongside the Nazis and played significant roles in wartime genocides.

The far-right OUN, led by nationalist figurehead Stepan Bandera, is understood to have been the driving force behind the bloody massacres of up to 100,000 ethnic Poles from 1943-45, as part of its quest for Ukrainian independence. Along with the UPA, it participated in the murder of more than one million Jews across the country, which saw among the most brutal destruction of its population at the hands of fascist troops.


Writing on Twitter, Eduard Dolinsky, the director general of the Ukrainian Jewish Committee, made the link between the slogans and the activities of the OUN-UPA, which he argued “is wartime organization of Ukrainian nationalists that heavily participated in Holocaust and killed 100 thousand peaceful Poles in ethnic cleansing.”

Since the 2014 Maidan, the groups, historically lionized by neo-Nazis and the far right, have seen their reputation rehabilitated by mainstream politicians in Ukraine, credited as fighters for the country’s freedom. As well as staging paramilitary operations to destroy Polish and Jewish communities, they also fought against the Soviet Red Army as it desperately battled against Nazi German forces in Eastern Europe.

In March, officials in the Western Ukrainian city of Lvov, one of the Maidan’s key strongholds, announced that they would seek to rename its main sports stadium after Bandera himself. There is already a large statue of the Nazi collaborator outside Lvov’s main train station.

At the same time, a separate row broke out after Israel’s ambassador in Kiev slammed a decision to name nearby Ternopil’s arena in honor of Roman Shukhevich, a UPA leader who served with a rank equivalent to a captain in a Nazi German auxiliary police battalion, and is said to have been involved in ethnic cleansing. Shukhevich commanded the Nachtigall Battalion, a collaborationist unit that fought on the side of the Nazis and has been accused of taking part in pogroms in the city of Lvov.


Ukraine’s uniform for the Euro 2020 tournament has simultaneously sparked outrage in Russia, as it features a map of the country that includes the Crimean Peninsula. The territory was reabsorbed by Moscow in 2014, but Kiev still maintains its claims over the region.

The head of the Ukrainian football association, Andriy Pavelko, defended the uniform at its unveiling on Sunday, saying, “we believe that Ukraine’s silhouette will give strength to the players because they will fight for all of Ukraine.”

However, Russian Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova added her voice to the criticisms of the design, mocking the claims that the contested map would improve its players’ performance, adding that “it is a pity this is their only hope.” She called its depiction of Ukraine, including Crimea, “impossible,” and said that officials in Kiev were actively working to whitewash history with the inclusion of the slogans.

While a number of fans have called for the kit to be banned by the competition’s organizers, UEFA, the sport’s governing body, gave it the green light to be used on Monday. “The uniform of the Ukrainian national team... has been approved by UEFA in accordance with the applicable rules regarding equipment,” it said in a statement.

Ukraine’s Euro 2020 soccer shirt to carry slogan of Holocaust perpetrators, weeks after arena named for WWII Nazi massacre leader — RT Russia & Former Soviet Union
 
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The yellow and blue shirt, shown to the public on Sunday, is branded with the words ‘glory to Ukraine’ and ‘glory to heroes’. While the slogans have a long history, dating back to the writings of the country’s national poet, Taras Shevchenko, in the 1800s, they have since gained more sinister associations. Both phrases were used by members of the Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists (OUN) and the Ukrainian Insurgent Army (UPA), paramilitary groups that historians say fought alongside the Nazis and played significant roles in wartime genocides.

In other words, it's a slogan that dates back 200 years that was hijacked for 4 or 5 years by the Nazi-affiliated Ukrainian Nationalists in the early 1940's and RT is very, very, very upset.
 
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The yellow and blue shirt, shown to the public on Sunday, is branded with the words ‘glory to Ukraine’ and ‘glory to heroes’. While the slogans have a long history, dating back to the writings of the country’s national poet, Taras Shevchenko, in the 1800s, they have since gained more sinister associations. Both phrases were used by members of the Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists (OUN) and the Ukrainian Insurgent Army (UPA), paramilitary groups that historians say fought alongside the Nazis and played significant roles in wartime genocides.

In other words, it's a slogan that dates back 200 years that was hijacked for 4 or 5 years by the Nazi-affiliated Ukrainian Nationalists in the early 1940's and RT is very, very, very upset.
That argument is like saying that swastikas shouldn't have negative connotations because the Nazis only hijacked a 3000 year old symbol for a decade or two. I get the argument but people have to accept that the context of words continually change.

But Russia's 'concern' is just as BS as when the GOP condemn Biden detaining illegals.
 

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That argument is like saying that swastikas shouldn't have negative connotations because the Nazis only hijacked a 3000 year old symbol for a decade or two. I get the argument but people have to accept that the context of words continually change.

But Russia's 'concern' is just as BS as when the GOP condemn Biden detaining illegals.
Yes to highlighted in green.

I wrote a longer post about Ukraine's use of Nazi-related symbolism in C-M's last RT quote thread a few weeks ago. It's a complicated topic, so could you please look it up. Ukraine quotes WW2 era Nazi-related symbolism continually. It just means something different to them.
 

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Ukraine has a complicated history as its freedom fighters were also genocidal maniacs.
 

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Ukraine has a complicated history as its freedom fighters were also genocidal maniacs.
True. But you could say the same thing about Russia, Poland, Serbia and Croatia. Eastern Europe being Eastern Europe.
 

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True. But you could say the same thing about Russia, Poland, Serbia and Croatia. Eastern Europe being Eastern Europe.
Do I detect a bit of perjury here?
 

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True. But you could say the same thing about Russia, Poland, Serbia and Croatia. Eastern Europe being Eastern Europe.
Maybe Croatia would come close to Ukraine, Russia does not belong in this conversation. Poland, the Baltics, Czechs, Slovaks, Hungarians(and other members of the Austrian mess) reached their independence without lowering themselves to the utter barbarity of the Ukrainians.
 

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Maybe Croatia would come close to Ukraine, Russia does not belong in this conversation. Poland, the Baltics, Czechs, Slovaks, Hungarians(and other members of the Austrian mess) reached their independence without lowering themselves to the utter barbarity of the Ukrainians.
Not an expert, but you might have an argument re Poland. Most Ukrainians would say that the Polish White Army was as bad as the Ukrainian nationalists.

Russia - who authored the Holodymyr? What do you think the Red Army was doing in Ukraine, Poland and Belarus?
 

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Yes to highlighted in green.

I wrote a longer post about Ukraine's use of Nazi-related symbolism in C-M's last RT quote thread a few weeks ago. It's a complicated topic, so could you please look it up. Ukraine quotes WW2 era Nazi-related symbolism continually. It just means something different to them.
I have looked at it as it has been in the news. A number of Ukrainians joined the Nazis to fight against the Soviets and some of them were directly involved in crimes against humanity. Factions in modern Ukraine still look at Russia as the big enemy (with reason) and have happily recaptured the image of their Nazi-collaborating predecessors.

In an era where we condemn one of the founders of Canada's public education system because of his actions against our indigenous communities, we sure as hell can condemn the celebration of Nazi collaborators.
 

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Not an expert, but you might have an argument re Poland. Most Ukrainians would say that the Polish White Army was as bad as the Ukrainian nationalists.

Russia - who authored the Holodymyr? What do you think the Red Army was doing in Ukraine, Poland and Belarus?
There was no Polish "white army" and Russia does not belong in this conversation because we are talking about national liberation movements. The Russian communists were not a nationalist movement- quite the opposite. One thing you did get right-you're not an expert.
 

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There was no Polish "white army" and Russia does not belong in this conversation because we are talking about national liberation movements. The Russian communists were not a nationalist movement- quite the opposite. One thing you did get right-you're not an expert.

There you go. And I'm not an expert, but I can read and Google. I said "White Army", should have been "Home Army".

Look under "reprisal killings". This was the first thing that came up and I am guessing it's the pro Polish version of history.

And you can talk about "national liberation movements" or whatever you want. I'm talking about Eastern Europe in general. So let's include Russia and the Red Army. You don't like them anyway.
 

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Polish-Ukrainian conflict
Background

Bloody ethnic conflict exploded during World War II in areas of today's western Ukraine, inhabited at that time by Ukrainians and a Polish minority (and until recently by Jews, most of whom had been killed by the Nazis before 1943).[181] The Ukrainians, who blamed the Poles for preventing the emergence of their national state and for Poland's nationality policies (such as military colonization in Kresy), undertook during the interwar years a campaign of terror led by the Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists (OUN). Under Piłsudski and his successors the Polish state authorities responded with harsh pacification measures. The events that unfolded in the 1940s were a legacy of this bitterness and also a result of other factors, such as the activities of Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union.[161][182] Ukrainians, generally assigned by the Nazis the same inferior status as Poles, in many practical respects received a more favorable treatment.[183] However, the Germans thwarted the Ukrainian attempts to establish a Ukrainian state, imprisoned Ukrainian leaders, and split the occupied lands that Ukrainians considered theirs into two administrative units. Following the Soviet victory at Stalingrad, the Ukrainian nationalists feared a repeat of the post-World War I scenario: a power vacuum left by the exhausted great powers and a Polish armed takeover of western Ukraine. Aiming for a country without any Poles or Polish interests left, the Ukrainian Insurgent Army (UPA) undertook to create an ethnically homogenous Ukrainian society by physically eliminating the Poles. The German occupiers, whose long-standing policy was to aggravate further the Polish-Ukrainian enmity, for the most part did not intervene in the resulting campaigns of ethnic cleansing.[47][181][184]

Ethnic cleansing



Victims of a massacre committed by the UPA in the village of Lipniki in Volhynia, 1943

The wartime Polish-Ukrainian conflict commenced with the massacres of Poles in Volhynia (Polish: Rzeź wołyńska, literally: Volhynian slaughter), a campaign of ethnic mass murder in western Reichskommissariat Ukraine, which was the Polish Volhynian Voivodeship before the war. The entire conflict took place mainly between late March 1943 and August 1947, extending beyond World War II.[185] The actions, orchestrated and conducted largely by the UPA together with other Ukrainian groups and local Ukrainian peasants in three former Polish provinces (voivodeships), resulted in between 50,000 and 60,000 Polish civilians killed in Volhynia alone. Other major regions of the slaughter of Poles were eastern Galicia (20,000–25,000 killed) and southeastern Lublin province (4,000–5,000 killed).[67] The peak of the massacres took place in July and August 1943, when Dmytro Klyachkivsky, a senior UPA commander, ordered the extermination of the entire ethnically Polish population between 16 and 60 years of age.[186] Hundreds of thousands of Poles fled the affected areas.[67] The massacres committed by the UPA led to ethnic cleansing and retaliatory killings by Poles against local Ukrainians both east and west of the Curzon Line.[119] Estimates of the number of Ukrainians killed in Polish reprisals vary from 10,000 to 20,000 in all areas affected by the conflict.[187] Ukrainian historians give higher numbers for the Ukrainian losses.[67] The reprisal killings were committed by the Home Army, Bataliony Chłopskie, and Polish self-defense units.[119] They were restrained from mounting indiscriminate attacks by the Polish Government-in-Exile, whose goal was to retake and govern western Ukraine after the war.[184] As a result of the fierce fighting that took place in May and June 1944, a Polish-Ukrainian front had been established along the Huczwa River with several thousand participants on each side; it ceased to exist only with the arrival of the Soviet Army.[119]

The ethnic cleansing and securing ethnic homogeneity reached its full scale with the post-war Soviet and Polish communist removal of the Polish and Ukrainian populations to the respective sides of the Poland-Soviet Ukraine border and the implementation of the Operation Vistula, the dispersing of Ukrainians still remaining in Poland in remote regions of the country. Due in part to the successive occupations of the region, ethnic Poles and Ukrainians were brutally pitted against each other, first under the German occupation, and later under the Soviet occupation. Tens or hundreds of thousands on both sides (estimates differ widely) lost their lives over the course of this conflict.[51]


See also: Historiography of the Volyn tragedy; Janowa Dolina massacre; Massacre of Ostrówki; Pavlivka, Volyn Oblast; Przebraże Defence; and 27th Home Army Infantry Division (Poland)
 

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I have looked at it as it has been in the news. A number of Ukrainians joined the Nazis to fight against the Soviets and some of them were directly involved in crimes against humanity. Factions in modern Ukraine still look at Russia as the big enemy (with reason) and have happily recaptured the image of their Nazi-collaborating predecessors.

In an era where we condemn one of the founders of Canada's public education system because of his actions against our indigenous communities, we sure as hell can condemn the celebration of Nazi collaborators.
We can do anything we want.

But let's draw a comparison between the Ukrainian celebration of their SS collaborator units and Robert E. Lee and the Army of Northern Virginia and the Southern Battle Flag. Different symbols mean different things in different places. For a nice Toronto liberal, the Confederacy means the oppression of Blacks. Ask a white guy in rural Alabama and the Confederacy is the South's apogee. He doesn't see the oppression or corruption, just the bravery and patriotism that he was taught about in school.

See where I'm going? As I understand it, Ukes get a sanitized and glorified view of their WW2 participation taught to them in school.

The issue is that ALL Westerners react with shock and distaste to the the display of Nazi regalia; whereas only SOME westerners react the same way to the Confederacy and its symbols. We have ALL hated on the swastika since 1939. Hating on the Confederate flag is a lot more recent and not nearly as instinctive and gut level.

And return to my point that several Eastern European countries have engaged in genocide in the last 100 years. Again, we're imposing North American norms on a not North American part of the world.

So condemn away.
 

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Background

Bloody ethnic conflict exploded during World War II in areas of today's western Ukraine, inhabited at that time by Ukrainians and a Polish minority (and until recently by Jews, most of whom had been killed by the Nazis before 1943).[181] The Ukrainians, who blamed the Poles for preventing the emergence of their national state and for Poland's nationality policies (such as military colonization in Kresy), undertook during the interwar years a campaign of terror led by the Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists (OUN). Under Piłsudski and his successors the Polish state authorities responded with harsh pacification measures. The events that unfolded in the 1940s were a legacy of this bitterness and also a result of other factors, such as the activities of Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union.[161][182] Ukrainians, generally assigned by the Nazis the same inferior status as Poles, in many practical respects received a more favorable treatment.[183] However, the Germans thwarted the Ukrainian attempts to establish a Ukrainian state, imprisoned Ukrainian leaders, and split the occupied lands that Ukrainians considered theirs into two administrative units. Following the Soviet victory at Stalingrad, the Ukrainian nationalists feared a repeat of the post-World War I scenario: a power vacuum left by the exhausted great powers and a Polish armed takeover of western Ukraine. Aiming for a country without any Poles or Polish interests left, the Ukrainian Insurgent Army (UPA) undertook to create an ethnically homogenous Ukrainian society by physically eliminating the Poles. The German occupiers, whose long-standing policy was to aggravate further the Polish-Ukrainian enmity, for the most part did not intervene in the resulting campaigns of ethnic cleansing.[47][181][184]

Ethnic cleansing



Victims of a massacre committed by the UPA in the village of Lipniki in Volhynia, 1943

The wartime Polish-Ukrainian conflict commenced with the massacres of Poles in Volhynia (Polish: Rzeź wołyńska, literally: Volhynian slaughter), a campaign of ethnic mass murder in western Reichskommissariat Ukraine, which was the Polish Volhynian Voivodeship before the war. The entire conflict took place mainly between late March 1943 and August 1947, extending beyond World War II.[185] The actions, orchestrated and conducted largely by the UPA together with other Ukrainian groups and local Ukrainian peasants in three former Polish provinces (voivodeships), resulted in between 50,000 and 60,000 Polish civilians killed in Volhynia alone. Other major regions of the slaughter of Poles were eastern Galicia (20,000–25,000 killed) and southeastern Lublin province (4,000–5,000 killed).[67] The peak of the massacres took place in July and August 1943, when Dmytro Klyachkivsky, a senior UPA commander, ordered the extermination of the entire ethnically Polish population between 16 and 60 years of age.[186] Hundreds of thousands of Poles fled the affected areas.[67] The massacres committed by the UPA led to ethnic cleansing and retaliatory killings by Poles against local Ukrainians both east and west of the Curzon Line.[119] Estimates of the number of Ukrainians killed in Polish reprisals vary from 10,000 to 20,000 in all areas affected by the conflict.[187] Ukrainian historians give higher numbers for the Ukrainian losses.[67] The reprisal killings were committed by the Home Army, Bataliony Chłopskie, and Polish self-defense units.[119] They were restrained from mounting indiscriminate attacks by the Polish Government-in-Exile, whose goal was to retake and govern western Ukraine after the war.[184] As a result of the fierce fighting that took place in May and June 1944, a Polish-Ukrainian front had been established along the Huczwa River with several thousand participants on each side; it ceased to exist only with the arrival of the Soviet Army.[119]

The ethnic cleansing and securing ethnic homogeneity reached its full scale with the post-war Soviet and Polish communist removal of the Polish and Ukrainian populations to the respective sides of the Poland-Soviet Ukraine border and the implementation of the Operation Vistula, the dispersing of Ukrainians still remaining in Poland in remote regions of the country. Due in part to the successive occupations of the region, ethnic Poles and Ukrainians were brutally pitted against each other, first under the German occupation, and later under the Soviet occupation. Tens or hundreds of thousands on both sides (estimates differ widely) lost their lives over the course of this conflict.[51]


See also: Historiography of the Volyn tragedy; Janowa Dolina massacre; Massacre of Ostrówki; Pavlivka, Volyn Oblast; Przebraże Defence; and 27th Home Army Infantry Division (Poland)
Thank you for the Wikipedia "knowledge". My youngest uncle, not even 5 years old, was murdered by the UPA in a massacre of the whole village, so the 16-60 "order" is a lie. One of many lies. The truth is the Ukrainians massacred EVERYBODY who was not Ukrainian, regardless of age and sex. And they were running wild, armed by the Nazis for better part of three years before any resistance could have been even mounted. Do notice the dates. The Polish resistance did not really start until the mid 1943 and it took until the mid 1947 to destroy the Ukrainian units hiding among the civilian population. Stalin decided to incorporate the Western Ukraine into the Soviet Union and the Polish population was put on the trains and shipped to what used to be German Silesia, Pomerania and East Prussia, while the Ukrainians who survived the Red Army got their just reward by becoming the Soviet slaves. A sea of blood spilled for exactly nothing.
 

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...Ask a white guy in rural Alabama and the Confederacy is the South's apogee. He doesn't see the oppression or corruption, just the bravery and patriotism that he was taught about in school.
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And that's a problem that should be condemned and addressed as well. in case you haven't noticed, there has been a significant backlash to the stars and bars. There are very few people in the US who aren't aware of the connotations and people who actually are aware of history know that the whole southern pride thing was explicitly in opposition to blacks gaining civil rights. It's at a point where continuing to fly it is saying that you are aware and either support that racist world view or don't care.

Just like it is important to educate people about systemic discrimination against blacks and its symbols, it is important to educate people about the connection between these Ukrainian symbols and nazi atrocities.

But if you think it's okay to base a national identity on nasty people as long as people don't talk too openly about it...
 
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