Hamas is Incapable of Forming a Competent Government

basketcase

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How is that, the civies were being told where to go by the IDF not by Hamas....
It's well documented despite Hamas' brutal control over Gaza opinions and news coverage that Hamas intentionally tells civilians to stay in combat zones so Hamas press can broadcast the casualties.
 

nottyboi

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It's well documented despite Hamas' brutal control over Gaza opinions and news coverage that Hamas intentionally tells civilians to stay in combat zones so Hamas press can broadcast the casualties.
Its all docmented that in this war Israel told them where to go. Hamas was in the tunnels. When they set up camp they would claim they had one cell signal from a Hamas "affiliated" person so they would drop 8000 lbs of bombs and kill hundreds. If you really believe tha shit that is justfied then you are no better then Mengele or Eichmann or any of those infamous people.
 

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Hamas is and always was a failure. A bunch of hicks and ignorant Muslim militant yahoos that tried to run a country. Abbas although corrupt is doing a better job than Hamas.

What were they trying to accomplish by invading Israel killing everyone the came across including women and children and then kidnapping babies, women, senior citizens and thailandese workers? They accomplished nothing except killing thousands of their own people and getting Israel to release terrorists and murderers that were in jail.

The Israelis now will not stop, they will never let anything like this happen again and once they get more hostages back they'll go back and continue killing hamas. Rightfully so. The crazy part is that we have a bunch of people that support them here in Canada and Terb, mostly Muslims that never integrated. A total failure.
 

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How is that, the civies were being told where to go by the IDF not by Hamas.
The IDF was giving them escape routes and hamas held guns to their heads telling the civvies that they cannot evacuate. hamas wanted to max out on the death toll.
 

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Its all docmented that in this war Israel told them where to go.
Israel gave them evacuation routes to safety.
hamas was in the tunnels.
Hiding safely and refusing entry to the Gazans who they were supposed to protect. A perfect example of Gazans being sitting ducks/human shields.

When they set up camp they would claim they had one cell signal from a Hamas "affiliated" person so they would drop 8000 lbs of bombs and kill hundreds. If you really believe tha shit that is justfied then you are no better then Mengele or Eichmann or any of those infamous people.
In English please?
 

nottyboi

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Israel gave them evacuation routes to safety.

Hiding safely and refusing entry to the Gazans who they were supposed to protect. A perfect example of Gazans being sitting ducks/human shields.


In English please?
Israel did give them routes to "safety" then bombed them on the road and when they got there. It was a genocide trap. A kill box. A standard military tactic applied to women, children and babies. Just like the Nazis told the Jews they were being evacuated to a safer place. ..the gleaming city of Auschiwitz.
 

nottyboi

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Israel gave them evacuation routes to safety.

Hiding safely and refusing entry to the Gazans who they were supposed to protect. A perfect example of Gazans being sitting ducks/human shields.


In English please?
I think your zionism has affected the language centers in your brain.
 

shack

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Israel did give them routes to "safety" then bombed them on the road and when they got there. It was a genocide trap. A kill box. A standard military tactic applied to women, children and babies. Just like the Nazis told the Jews they were being evacuated to a safer place. ..the gleaming city of Auschiwitz.
Your hatred of Jews blinds you.

Is Auschiwitz where they put the Aussie Jews? Every post of yours has mangled English. At this point, it just can't be coincidence. This is a reason why you have no credibility.
 

nottyboi

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Your hatred of Jews blinds you.

Is Auschiwitz where they put the Aussie Jews? Every post of yours has mangled English. At this point, it just can't be coincidence. This is a reason why you have no credibility.
Did you win the Zionist spelling bee? 🤣 Typical trope, I am the one seeing, you are the one closing your eyes to the slaughter. Yet you call me blinded by hatred. I don't hate jews, I hate anyone that deliberately slaughters innocent civilians.
 
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But never in other wars are civilians used as human shields by their own military under government orders, the way they were used by hamas in Gaza.

As well, in almost every war the casualties are much greater on the losing side. So the argument of disproportionality is totally moot. It's a given that it happens. And if the disproportionality is greater here, it is only because hamas dragged it out much longer than it needed to since there was no way that they could win except in terms of the PR war. That is clearly another way that hamas sacrificed their own people. Most wars end when one side surrenders so as to spare civilian lives. That clearly did not happen here.

Using human shields and needlessly prolonging the war was the reason for the number of civilian casualties. Those had nothing to do with Israel and everything to do with hamas' strategy.

BTW, being woefully ignorant of spelling and grammar is a good way to assess the intellect of whom you are debating. And that's especially telling when this site automatically spell checks for you. But that goes more toward laziness than ignorance, so I'll grant you that.
Israel is the only side that has been accused of using human shields.
Every accusation..

 

Frankfooter

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Your posts just get stupider and stupider.

Hamas has made clear their goals. For example interviews with the NYT where they stated that the suffering of Palestinians isn't as important as their war against Israel. I know you don't care what Arabs say but Hamas has made their stance clear.

And you are fucking insane with you blaming me for not making a peace offer; I don't have a say. That said, there have been many peace offers for a two State peace going back to 1937 but you have argued against every single one of them including the Arab League Initiative and have repeatedly told us that the Palestinians shouldn't be included in any negotiation. You have argued against negotiations and have repeatedly argued against peace deals, simply out of your racist desire to see Israel and the Jewish presence wiped out.

Every time you try to demonize zionism, you are clearly saying you disagree with Jews being there and every time you make excuses for Hamas, you show you support violence as the way forward. It's just like your insane support for Biden/Harris losing, just like your endless justifications for Hamas starting the recent war being simply a way to make you feel better about yourself without caring what the actual result is for Palestinians.
Nonsense.
Hamas repeatedly said they'd settle for the two state solution during ceasefire talks through the genocide. Netanyahu refused, preferring to kill as many as he could get away with.

Demonizing zionism is not saying there should be no Jews in Israel or Palestine, just not zionists. Prior to zionism Palestine was a much more diverse country, it was only zionism that built walls in order to create a ethno state while taking as much of Palestine as they could wipe off the maps.

Zionism is and always has been the problem. Not Palestinians, not Jews and not the Christians who used to live together peacefully.

 
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