Because the thing anyone wants is a healthier, better educated and better employed populace. They might get uppity and start thinking for themselves. May have the option of telling bad employers screw you do better.
Guaranteed Basic Income
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I'm okay with UBI in theory, but would never trust our government to implement it as it should be.
For one, it shouldn't be at all comfortable living on just UBI. It's there as a safety net, not a free ride through life.
And it should be vouchers, not straight up cash. The list of items redeemable with the vouchers would consist of hard necessities like food, clothing and shelter, and some softer necessities like communication, transportation and internet.
The vouchers would be dispersed to everyone, rich or poor, thereby preserving the dignity of those who need them, but at the same time keeping people accountable.
For one, it shouldn't be at all comfortable living on just UBI. It's there as a safety net, not a free ride through life.
And it should be vouchers, not straight up cash. The list of items redeemable with the vouchers would consist of hard necessities like food, clothing and shelter, and some softer necessities like communication, transportation and internet.
The vouchers would be dispersed to everyone, rich or poor, thereby preserving the dignity of those who need them, but at the same time keeping people accountable.
No vouchers!!! Money only. The main problem with implementing UBI is that the government will not be tough enough to eliminate ALL OTHER SOCIAL PAYMENT and support (food banks, welfare, child support, subsidised housing, GST rebates, GIS, etc.). Having vouchers instead of money means that it is just another social support program that must be managed + there will be a black market for "cashing:" these vouchers. It must be WEEKLY (or better, daily) bank deposits and a law that prohibits such payments to be collateral for loans (i.e., make it illegal to use "payday loans" for such payments). This way everyone will have guaranteed money every week (or, better, every day) that he cannot piss away by borrowing against it.
I'm against it because it's a disincentive to work harder, to create wealth and to be self reliant. In reality it is just another tool of income and wealth redistribution, providing that it is even administered properly. As Thomas Sowell points out succinctly "The history of the 20th century is full of examples of countries that set out to redistribute wealth and ended up redistributing poverty."
Should it pass chalk it up in the annuls of history.
Should it pass chalk it up in the annuls of history.
There figures I've seen thrown around are $4,500-$4,800 a year. That's definitely not enough to live on without an other income.
I disagree that the CERB wasn't beneficial or did in the government's books. Out of the three main programmes launched by the government, only CERB served its function. The other two, the employer benefit and especially the landlord/tenant benefit were tremendously under utilized. CERB was the smallest out of the allocations so it didn't even spend all the money allocated to it and the other two didn't even cross the 10% (the landlord/tenant benefit was around 3%, a total bust as landlords weren't willing to fill the paperwork involved.) reimbursement level. All the remaining monies will get reabsorbed into next year's budget.
This bullshit song and dance routine that CERB recipients are somehow welfare queens and don't want to go to work is nonsense. I'm a specialized tradesmen, general contractor and subcontractor AND industrial cleaner. Businesses still aren't coming back. Out of the 7 medium sized businesses I cleaned daily/weekly, 1 has come back and promptly terminated services as they can't afford me at the moment. The others? All still closed/3 permanently. All of them shut down owing me money, and aside from going to small claims court for every single one of them to try and get my owed pay from, I'm probably never seeing a dime from them again. The dozen smaller ones, are mostly the same. Too cash poor to continue or reopen or are already permanently gone. On the trade side, everything is very slow. Due to Covid19 restrictions, maybe a fifth of the business has started back up but that's not enough to employ everyone. The fill in work I'd normally do in slow times is totally dead, fencing was a bust this summer as everyone cut back on non-necessary work and renovations are just very minor stuff for the most part. I fucking hustle every day for work and it just isn't there. As either self-employed or contracted I'm glad that EI is being changed to let people like me pay into the system, when I've always paid my taxes (I do not do jobs for "cash only") and had no safety net. I've gone out and busted my ass for minimum wage and can't get the hours enough to make it worthwhile.
I disagree that the CERB wasn't beneficial or did in the government's books. Out of the three main programmes launched by the government, only CERB served its function. The other two, the employer benefit and especially the landlord/tenant benefit were tremendously under utilized. CERB was the smallest out of the allocations so it didn't even spend all the money allocated to it and the other two didn't even cross the 10% (the landlord/tenant benefit was around 3%, a total bust as landlords weren't willing to fill the paperwork involved.) reimbursement level. All the remaining monies will get reabsorbed into next year's budget.
This bullshit song and dance routine that CERB recipients are somehow welfare queens and don't want to go to work is nonsense. I'm a specialized tradesmen, general contractor and subcontractor AND industrial cleaner. Businesses still aren't coming back. Out of the 7 medium sized businesses I cleaned daily/weekly, 1 has come back and promptly terminated services as they can't afford me at the moment. The others? All still closed/3 permanently. All of them shut down owing me money, and aside from going to small claims court for every single one of them to try and get my owed pay from, I'm probably never seeing a dime from them again. The dozen smaller ones, are mostly the same. Too cash poor to continue or reopen or are already permanently gone. On the trade side, everything is very slow. Due to Covid19 restrictions, maybe a fifth of the business has started back up but that's not enough to employ everyone. The fill in work I'd normally do in slow times is totally dead, fencing was a bust this summer as everyone cut back on non-necessary work and renovations are just very minor stuff for the most part. I fucking hustle every day for work and it just isn't there. As either self-employed or contracted I'm glad that EI is being changed to let people like me pay into the system, when I've always paid my taxes (I do not do jobs for "cash only") and had no safety net. I've gone out and busted my ass for minimum wage and can't get the hours enough to make it worthwhile.
As someone who does hiring, pouring coffee is better than a 6 year gap in employment that leaves you either lying (which can get you fired) or having to admit you were on welfare.
and more importantly, UBI isn't targeted towards youth so your point is rather silly.
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Hippies? How the fuck old are you?
First you will notice that the study completely undermines the claims about people not working because of it. Second, it seems that it resulted in a small net positive result.
The only arguable downside is therefore cost. Between taking that money back in taxes for those who don't need it and using it to replace the current welfare system and other tax credits means the main cost will be in the transition. Even that isn't a big deal because it will mean numerous welfare agencies will become redundant so the start-up cost will eventually get recovered.
I can't tell you whether this will have a significant positive impact but the fear-mongering is pointless.
p.s. Other than it contradicts your preconceptions, could you explain what problematic bias the article has?
Except its quite the opposite. It is incentive for people on welfare to earn extra money without worrying about being thrown in jail. Obviously there is a question about the amount but you're acting like UBI will massive. Even Andrew Yang's $1000 per month is only $12,000 per year and still well below the poverty line.
You mean the workers must slave and die and pay Brian Mulroney GST, while the indolent drones like Ben and queens like Caroline and relaxing ???
People like Jessica Mulroney should be recognized and rewarded, not overly taxed and snubbed by society, that snub is only for black lives ???
Hmmm...
