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Got a ticket for driving with no insurance...what to expect?

NHFL

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If I were you, I'd go with this. Its your best bet.
The problem with that argument - that he needed to put food on the table and pay the mortgage and not pay the insurance - is that it is flawed, and has no relevance to the issue. If indeed, the OP's spending priorities were on OTHER issues than his insurance, that is fine - THE CONSEQUENCE OF PAYING THE MORTGAGE AND PUTTING FOOD ON THE TABLE FIRST IS THAT HE CAN NO LONGER DRIVE!!!!!!!! The argument is far from perfect or sympathetic, and is in fact quite puerile.
 

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I have heard good things about POINTS and ex-Copper, the paralegals. They are mostly ex-cops and know the system. Maybe they can negotiate some sort of plea bargain for you, especially since you now have insurance.
 

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I have heard good things about POINTS and ex-Copper, the paralegals. They are mostly ex-cops and know the system. Maybe they can negotiate some sort of plea bargain for you, especially since you now have insurance.

Did you not read any of the posts?

A PLEA BARGAIN IS WORSE THAN USELESS FOR HIM!!!!

A plea will result in a CONVICTION that will put his insurance rates in the future at risk.

If all he wants is to reduce the fine by throwing himself at the mercy of the Crown then he can do that himself.

If he wants real power to negotiate he has to have a lawyer or SOMEONE that the Crown KNOWS will take it to trial and may win.

So many of you guys are such sheep. You worry about "Points" and the monetary fine like women overspend chasing Shoppers Optimium points! LOL!

The 800 lb Gorilla in the room when it comes to traffic tickets is YOUR INSURANCE RATES!!!!!
 

SchlongConery

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The problem with that argument - that he needed to put food on the table and pay the mortgage and not pay the insurance - is that it is flawed, and has no relevance to the issue. If indeed, the OP's spending priorities were on OTHER issues than his insurance, that is fine - THE CONSEQUENCE OF PAYING THE MORTGAGE AND PUTTING FOOD ON THE TABLE FIRST IS THAT HE CAN NO LONGER DRIVE!!!!!!!! The argument is far from perfect or sympathetic, and is in fact quite puerile.
Puerile?

Your sanctimonious post lacks a modicum of insight.

I suspect the OP is like millions being a suburban guy who can only get to work by car. No transit etc. So, if he didn't drive, then he'd likely lose his job.

Besides, you sanctimonious twat, he asked for input on how he can mitigate the consequences of his actions. You have nothing useful to add to the conversation.
 

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Did you not read any of the posts?

A PLEA BARGAIN IS WORSE THAN USELESS FOR HIM!!!!

A plea will result in a CONVICTION that will put his insurance rates in the future at risk.

If all he wants is to reduce the fine by throwing himself at the mercy of the Crown then he can do that himself.

If he wants real power to negotiate he has to have a lawyer or SOMEONE that the Crown KNOWS will take it to trial and may win.

So many of you guys are such sheep. You worry about "Points" and the monetary fine like women overspend chasing Shoppers Optimium points! LOL!

The 800 lb Gorilla in the room when it comes to traffic tickets is YOUR INSURANCE RATES!!!!!
Opinions vary on discussion boards and yours is not necessarily right. No need to get snarky! From what he wrote, he is not going to get off but he can mitigate the results by a plea bargain. He is cooked on the insurance rates though. You are free to disagree but it his the OP's decision.
 

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How do you know if he isn't going to "get off". Just because he didn't have insurance doesn't automatically equate to a conviction.

UNLESS you plead guilty!

Lawyers get "factually guilty" people off the charges every minute of every hour of every day.

Like it or loathe it, if you ever get charged criminally under the new prostitution laws and a CONVICTION will result in being barred from the USA for life (and say you travel to the US for your job) , being put on a Sex Offender Registry (and now you can't continue as a volunteer with you kids sports team) and will result in a divorce and family break up.... are YOU going to plead guilty and not hire a lawyer?

Because, of course, you are a filthy idiot douchebag and should have known better than to have risked all of that over getting your dick pulled! Right?
 

black booty lover

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Be careful there BBL we have a lot of law abiding citizens on this board, even though some of them hobby.

you hit the nail on the head there Titalian, I think it's hilarious that on a board based on breaking the law, people are judging the OP's ethics. Kind of a double standard to be judging people based on moral ethics.
 

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so can we assume that everybody here who hobbies will just plead guilty if caught?

@OP - getting valid insurance is a good step. Go talk to lawyer to find out if you can use it to plead to a lesser charge or outright acquittal
 

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I'm shocked that you would say that. I've only paid a woman for her time. When did that become illegal? ;)
 

black booty lover

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Speeding while driving without insurance is equivalent to paying for sex? If so then killing someone is the same as the aforementioned crimes. Your analogy falls in the give your head a shake department.

Really there smart guy??? If we accept the fact that laws are based on what society deems be right or wrong, than what he has done is less morally wrong than someone who part-takes in this hobby, since this is a criminal offence, and what he did is NOT a criminal offence.

For starters, he was going 20 over, which almost every car on the road does, accept in school zone and side streets. 2) what do you think the outcome would have been if got into an accident?
 
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nottyboi

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Did you not read any of the posts?

A PLEA BARGAIN IS WORSE THAN USELESS FOR HIM!!!!

A plea will result in a CONVICTION that will put his insurance rates in the future at risk.

If all he wants is to reduce the fine by throwing himself at the mercy of the Crown then he can do that himself.

If he wants real power to negotiate he has to have a lawyer or SOMEONE that the Crown KNOWS will take it to trial and may win.

So many of you guys are such sheep. You worry about "Points" and the monetary fine like women overspend chasing Shoppers Optimium points! LOL!

The 800 lb Gorilla in the room when it comes to traffic tickets is YOUR INSURANCE RATES!!!!!
A minor conviction will not move your rates, and in 3 years it will be gone. No need to hit the panic button. Also insurance companies rarely check abstracts once you are a customer, so don't change companies. I was in this situation before, got 4 tix in rapid succession, 2 no shows, 2 convictions laid low and it NEVER affected my rates. If I had been nailed with all 4 I would have faced DUI rates. Spending thousands on a lawyer to save a $150 fine is not great advice to someone who is already short on cash.
 

nottyboi

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you hit the nail on the head there Titalian, I think it's hilarious that on a board based on breaking the law, people are judging the OP's ethics. Kind of a double standard to be judging people based on moral ethics.
Indeed, especially when they routinely engage in acts that are CRIMINAL CODE convictions. They even vote for the douchbags that criminalized their hobby...
 

punter

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I was speeding 20 over.
I didn't expect it because it was already 9pm and despite driving down this stretch of road over the past 16 years have never seen a cop there...
If you had not driven without insurance, you could have avoided both tickets.

When I was young and stupid, I got three speeding tickets in a few months and was banned from driving. It's not the same situation, but I could have driven while being banned, but decided to take my deserved punishment. I had to beg for a (30km) ride to work, from family, for a month. It was either that or take the TTC. You had a choice and you made the wrong one.
 

black booty lover

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You had a choice and you made the wrong one.

and for umpteenth time, correct. He knows it, you obviously know it, and everyone on the board knows it. Are you going to let this man move forward and try to give sound advice, or do we have to keep reading another 20 members tell us how he made the wrong choice?
 

punter

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and for umpteenth time, correct. He knows it, you obviously know it, and everyone on the board knows it. Are you going to let this man move forward and try to give sound advice, or do we have to keep reading another 20 members tell us how he made the wrong choice?
Did the OP really think that he would get away without us criticizing him for doing something illegal, stupid, and then getting caught? Fuck that. The court of public opinion is harsh.
 
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