Got a camera speeding ticket

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Your insurance company is automatically notified when you get a speeding ticket and your insurance increased for the next 3 years. Two more speeding tickets within the 3-year period will lead to cancellation of your insurance. Verify with your insurance company if in doubt.
 

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depends on how fast you were going. so if you were do 10km on the dvp, then yes, your insurance be going to sky rocket

 

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Tough to beat a camera ticket. Got nailed at a downtown intersection in 2018 and there wasn't much I could argue in court. It counts as a minor traffic violation and does impact your rates.
 

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no ding on your license, but a ticket for who owns the car so you still get the fine...insurance you will have a slight raise, even though it wasn't proven who drove the car, it was your car and that's what these fucking insurance will go after. If you have a good broker it shouldn't be that much.
 

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I talked to ticket fighters. They said treat it as a parking ticket. No points on license and no insurance implications . They will not even fight it for you. So, even if it is a bad ticket, you have to pay. I suppose you could fight it on your own but what is the point? Just pay it as you would a parking ticket. Not worth the effort to do otherwise

I was worried that as my car was involved in a traffic violation the insurance would go up on my car regardless of who was driving

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trust me you will get a slight raise on your insurance...insurance is against the vehicle and the driver. look at it this way. If it was proven you didn't drive the car when the police pull it over, they will ask for your insurance and ownership...and you get a violation...and the driver whoever it is, will get a ticket. it won't matter if he's a 2nd driver to the vehicle or not.
 

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I remember about 20 years ago in Winnipeg there was a American tourist who'd driven up to go duck hunting. He blew through a speed camera at about 3 am. He saw the camera flash, stopped, pulled over and retrieved his shotgun and blew the speed camera to bits. Police were still able to retrieve an image of his vehicle and licence plate and he was subsequently arrested and charged with vandalism and firearm offences.

The best part?

Manitoba doesn't fine out-of-province speeders caught on cameras. His plates were from Minnesota, so he never would have received a ticket.
I heard about this something like this. One guy got a speeding violation, passing a red light violation in Quebec...probably intoxicated...all on camera. since he was an Ontario resident...he got the notices by mail but never did anything about it..he was expecting by the time he needs to renew his license plates he will see those violations and will eventually have to pay for them...but never got any...I wonder if that story was true.
 

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Don't pay the fine and you will get a big surprise when it comes time to purchase your sticker . Fine not paid , no sticker given out That's right , the car gets the fine but the owner of the car will have to pay the fine to be able to get a sticker .
 

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I talked to ticket fighters. They said treat it as a parking ticket. No points on license and no insurance implications . They will not even fight it for you. So, even if it is a bad ticket, you have to pay. I suppose you could fight it on your own but what is the point? Just pay it as you would a parking ticket. Not worth the effort to do otherwise
Exactly what I was going to say. Speed camera tickets are the same as a parking ticket. It's simply a tax. If you get a ticket from a red light camera or photo radar, they will have no impact on your insurance and driving record. You will not receive demerit points for the ticket, nor will it appear on your driving record or impact your insurance rates.

depends on how fast you were going. so if you were do 10km on the dvp, then yes, your insurance be going to sky rocket
There are no speed cameras on any freeways in Ontario. So if you get a ticket on the DVP, then you would have to be pulled over by a Cop. Auto insurance companies will look back at your driving record for up to five years. Accidents, speeding tickets, and other traffic violations can stay on your driving record for up to three years. Demerit points (which have no effect on your insurance) stay on your record for 2 years from the date of conviction.

Tough to beat a camera ticket. Got nailed at a downtown intersection in 2018 and there wasn't much I could argue in court. It counts as a minor traffic violation and does impact your rates.
Not true. They have no way of proving who was driving.

I disagree with this statement.
If you accumulate enough demerits in a given period of time, insurance will know, and it will affect your insurance.
Also not true. Demerit points are an MTO thing. Demerit points do not directly impact your car insurance rates in Ontario. Instead, all tickets you get are what impacts your insurance premiums. One thing to note, if you get too many demerit points, the Ministry can suspend your license.

2 to 8 points:
You will be sent a warning letter.

9 to 14 points:
You will be sent a second warning letter encouraging you to improve your driving behaviour.

15+ points:
Your licence will be suspended for 30 days.

trust me you will get a slight raise on your insurance...insurance is against the vehicle and the driver. look at it this way. If it was proven you didn't drive the car when the police pull it over, they will ask for your insurance and ownership...and you get a violation...and the driver whoever it is, will get a ticket. it won't matter if he's a 2nd driver to the vehicle or not.
I'm not exactly sure what you're saying. But the bottom line (as I stated above) the registered owner is sent red light and speed camera tickets. Speeding up to 49 km/h over, it's a simple fine and nothing will show up on your driving record. Speeding 50 km/h over will mean an automatic court summons for the vehicle owner.

If you're pulled over and giving a ticket for any moving violation, it will show up on your driving record (provided you're convicted) and can affect your insurance rates.
 
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Fight it
With covid chances are ticket will at least get reduced

No points on license
No ID on you so no issue with insurance
 

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your insurance does not go up unless you make a claim in a car accident
This is not true

If you make a claim where you are AT FAULT (eg cops gave you a ticket)

A crash has no impact on your insurance (unless you have other circumstances eg 1st year driver or something)
 

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If you plead not guilty, you will probably have to identify the driver, and a conviction will go against someone's license.
Nope
They dont care

Even if you walk into court proving you were somewhere else (eg incarcerated in prison at the time) you will STILL be convicted and pay the fine
 

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When you pay a speeding ticket, the offence goes on your driver’s abstract. You are right the insurance company is not notified automatically. They will check when your policy comes up for renewal or when you ask for a quote from a new company. That is when your premium is affected for the next 3 years. Sorry for my previous error.
Many do not even check at renewal dates


Also if you drag tickets out long periods (court dates) it helps alot

eg get a ticket in 2020
Court date set for 2021
You delay first court date another 6 months (make request to change date etc they usually give you at least 1, I have gotten as many as 3)
By time ticket is convicted its very late 2021 / early 2022 and you have already renewed sticker + insurance
When your next renewal comes up (2022) even if they inquire they see a ticket issued in 2020 (2 years ago by this point) and it has negligible if any effect

I've dragged serious tickets out for a LONG time even knowing the person will get convicted and no chance but all delays also help if prosecutor loses documents or police are not available (note for red light ticket there still is disclosure but police are NOT required to attend, they write a letter to prosecutor instead as evidence which imo is nonsense because you have no ability to cross examine then)
 

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How much was the ticket for?
And how many km/h over the limit?

BTW, if you use the WAZE app, it alert you of all the red light and speed cameras. Users will also identify the location of Police. It's the best driving app.
 

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And how many km/h over the limit?

BTW, if you use the WAZE app, it alert you of all the red light and speed cameras. Users will also identify the location of Police. It's the best driving app.
If you're guilty and it's $100 pay it and move on...if it wasn't you and it's $300, well hmmmm
 

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trust me you will get a slight raise on your insurance...insurance is against the vehicle and the driver. look at it this way. If it was proven you didn't drive the car when the police pull it over, they will ask for your insurance and ownership...and you get a violation...and the driver whoever it is, will get a ticket. it won't matter if he's a 2nd driver to the vehicle or not.
If I lend you my car, when police pull you over you need to provide YOUR insurance

Unless you have some very weird policy insurance always covers your using a 3rd party vehicle

Now yes if you were not insured at all my car would get towed and I would be super pissed at you
You would be the one in court with that huge ($5000?) fine for no insurance though not me
Your license would also be suspended not mine
 
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