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going slow with an SP

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One big difference between sex with an SP, and sex with a regular chick, is that once you start on the action, most SP's will do everything she can to make you cum as soon as possible. Also, some SP's seem to prefer to spend more time doing a BJ/HJ, etc., if it means it cuts down on the amount of time you spend fucking, by getting you hotter. Not that I'm really complaining. Once you're going though, they usually concentrate on trying to make you cum. For example, esp. in doggy style, sometimes an SP will use their hand to stroke you a bit more, so you cum faster.

Now when I have sex with a non-SP it is never like that. It's a lot slower, we take breaks, switch around more, and the chick is usually more interested in how she feels than on making me cum. Sometimes we stop and play for awhile before starting up again. Some of this happens a bit with some of the better SP's, but I have never had a session with an SP nearly as satisfying as with a chick who is into it for the fun of it.

So, here is the question... how to try and get this with an SP? I don't want to hear the usual terb crap about "respect her", that is a given, and too abstract to be of much use. I also don't just want a list of SP's with better service. I want to hear ideas on what can be done with any SP to try and work more towards this slow style like it is with a regular girl.

I've tried just saying "let's go slow" with some SP's, and often that works. That is probably the simplest and most obvious thing--just tell her what you want. Other ideas? I don't want to negotiate or complain, that'll kill my mood if it doesn't kill hers. I've also thought about monetary incentives, like, specifying a tip on the base rate dependent on duration, but negotiating that could be confusing and also a mood killer.

Another simple thing to do is just pull out half way and play for a bit, but some SP's seem to get upset by this, I guess from their point of view, fucking is what they are getting paid for, and perhaps they think if you draw it out they are not getting paid enough or something. Most SP's don't complain, but some do, I've had an SP tell me I was taking too long.

Well, I want to take too long!

Discuss amongst yourselves.
 

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Just remind her that you booked for the whole half hour or hour or whatever you booked. If she continues to rush you, she is a clock watcher for sure. Tell her she is spoiling the fun for you and ask her to relax and not to rush you. If she is a decent SP she will comply. If she continues to rush you, or tells you that you are taking too long then all is lost -- she is a lousy service provider and you will know better for next time.
 
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SPs don't have all day like your SO.

You want to take it slow, then book longer sessions.

Otherwise, if you've booked for the minimum time, then her job is to get at least 1 SOG out of you (as quickly as reasonably possible) and then, it's on to the next client or whatever else she does.

It's just a matter of experimenting with SPs to build a list of who gives you the most satisfying sessions.
 

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If your SP has a policy of accepting payment at the end of the session (which some do) and has a reputation for/claim of only charging for the time actually spent, then let her direct the pace. Under those circumstances, she has no incentive to rush you and every reason to prolong your enjoyment for the full amount of time you requested.

I see guys who seem in a big rush to get down to business -- and if they had their way, we'd have it all done and over with in 15 minutes.

If you know the SP is good -- if she either has reviews or posted policies to support the fact that she doesn't rush -- then I recommend you relax and let her take the lead.

..c..
 

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You answered your own question by simply requesting to go slower. Those that try to sense what you want are just guessing and based on the majority of guys they'll assume you want it fast and hard. Some women prefer to set the pace of the session while others are more submissive, it all depends on who you choose.
 

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Why would a SP want to go slow? She's got other customers to see so hurry up and wham, bam, thank you mam.
 

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Not all SPs take clients on a production line basis. Many limit the number of clients they see and work for repeat business.

If you've been seeing escorts who seem to want to get you out as quick as possible so they can get the next guy in, then I suggest that you have not been seeing those who are looking for repeat business.

..c..
 

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I like it slow so I rarely book less than 2 hours. If I win the lottery there is one SP I'd like to take to Hedonism for a week or so. Then I'd take it real slow.
 

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A combination of Baltimoron and EOTD works for me. I focus on the "Giving" side of the equation virtually always, mostly because I really enjoy giving. Also I tend to book outcalls for a minimum of two hours which allows for a relaxed pace. If I really hit it off with a lady then I will book future dates for four or more hours then.
 

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red-rageous is right - just ask. If you don't then get what you want, don't go back. I have several "regulars" who now know exactly what I want and go as slowly as I like, given our time constraints. Remember. however, you are buying time so there is a reasonable limit on what can be done in what period of time.
 

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Summarizing what we have so far:
-- ask (any suggestions on how to put this best?)
-- book longer sessions
-- work on making her feel good
-- find a better SP

Well. Those are pretty much the obvious ones. Any other thoughts?

Book a long session doesn't really answer it in my opinion. Let's say I book a 30min session, out of which there's 10min of chatting followed by 10min of sex. In 30min you only expect one SOG so in this case I am walking out the door after just 20min or so. If I book an hour instead, maybe I will have two 10min SOG or one 20min SOG, but my "ratio" has not improved. See what I'm getting at? What I would rather is find a way to have a 20min SOG in the 30min, or a 40min SOG in the hour, 80min out of 120, etc.

Another way to say this is how to get more (longer) bang for your buck out of whatever session you book. In that respect I think the "pleasure her" suggestion is a good one, and obviously "ask" is. "Find a better SP" may be the only good answer with some SP's but I'd really hope for more suggestions like "pleasure her" that would likely help in any situation.

Also, any thoughts on changing the way the compensation works? Brushing away the "professionalism" aspect for a moment, there is an incentive for an SP to make you pop ASAP, since she gets paid the same whether you walk out the door in 10min or 30min, and obviously 10min is a lot less time "working" for her. (And I'm sure that while SP's must really enjoy some sessions, there is only so much sex you can have in one day before it really does become "work").

So, it seems to me there are two ways to go: "Manipulative" approaches that get "more time" for the same buck, which cold as it sounds, I am interested in. There may also be "financial" incentives that align the SP's interests with your own interests.

Take the case of a 30min session. Perhaps you could offer her $100 just for showing up plus $5 per minute of active sexual activity. That way she could earn $150 for the typical 10min case, but if she could draw it out to 20min she'd earn $200 for the same session. The problem with this is getting people to agree to that and possibly arguing about how it works. It's just not the way people do things, so a lot of SP's would be reluctant to change their normal billing practice just for you, even if it's potentially more lucrative. It's an idea though.

Other thoughts?
 

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I will give you an example that illustrates the point maybe of what I am talking about. When I am having sex with a GF sometimes I just stop, inside her, and talk for awhile, make some jokes, and then after awhile, go back to the hard and fast stuff, then if I feel like I'm going to cum, maybe slow down again for awhile. Maybe even pull out and do something else for awhile until I start to lose the erection, then start up again.

I've found that when you try and do this with SP's, a lot of them resist it. They try and keep the motion going, either they will start to ride you, or they will reach down and use their hand, or whatever, and I guess the reason is--cutting away all the fantasy and the illusion for a moment--that for an SP the hardest part of the job is the time you're inside her, and she wants to get it over with. So the idea that you would be inside her, but not making any progress towards orgasm, it's something that she doesn't like, she wants to keep things moving.

That sums up in a way what I'm talking about. Doing this kind of thing might only draw the activity out another 5min or so, but it is going to feel like a very long 5min.

To be honest with an SP I often feel like there's almost an implicit contract that I have to keep going, that there's some pressure on me NOT to stop and make it take longer. Sometimes this is reinforced by "unprofessional" SP's saying things like "come one baby" or whatever, essentially letting you know she thinks it's long enough and it's time for you to cum. This has little to do with what the time on the clock says, it seems to me, and more to do with how long you have been going at it. Although someone said on the thread "you paid for 30min" or an hour or two hours or whatever I gather that a lot of SP's intuitively don't think about it that way--they think you paid to have sex N times and since other customers get off ASAP and you are taking too long and they are having to do too much work.
 

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fuji

30min is never long enough to get this.


IF the SP is looking for repeat clients then the time is your time. I always ask my clients what they like, if they want it to last. Long and slow. I think a good escort will be happy to give you exacly what you are looking for. Bring you to the edge and back or if you are looking to get to it more then once. Your wish is her command....

IT is about being passionate....
 

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I say teach her a lesson a refuse to orgasm :rolleyes:
 

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fuji said:
Perhaps you could offer her $100 just for showing up plus $5 per minute of active sexual activity. That way she could earn $150 for the typical 10min case, but if she could draw it out to 20min she'd earn $200 for the same session. The problem with this is getting people to agree to that and possibly arguing about how it works. It's just not the way people do things, so a lot of SP's would be reluctant to change their normal billing practice just for you, even if it's potentially more lucrative. It's an idea though.

Other thoughts?
I think this is too complicated and makes sex more businesslike than it should be. I think most SPs are willing to let you set the pace, you're literally in the driver's seat when you're thrusting away. :p If you can't talk to her about going slow, then just take charge - most will follow your lead.
 

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sweetsasha said:
fuji

30min is never long enough to get this.


IF the SP is looking for repeat clients then the time is your time. I always ask my clients what they like, if they want it to last.
and you are also communicating and that is a criminal offense.

If you don't know him and he does not know you, you are only setting yourself up to get popped.
Let him ask you the questions and you can answer them but also include he is paying for your time and what happens within the time is strictly between you and him and NOT what he is paying for!

If he asks you questions like what do I get for my money or at a massage parlour I get this ... what do I get from you? Basically anything service related and you volunteering the info is a recipe for disaster. If he is looking for you to volunteer the info., chances are he is probably a client but then again ... he could be a cop.


Amber
 

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If you ask what he wants while the guy is naked, I wouldn't worry that you're dealing with a cop. Communicating should be fine for each of you.
 

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Svend said:
If you ask what he wants while the guy is naked, I wouldn't worry that you're dealing with a cop. Communicating should be fine for each of you.
wrong ... cops can be naked and still communicate

I know a lady who was raided after he got naked and she got charged for communicating and keeping common bawdy. It was her own place and never shared or occupied by anyone other then her.

So NO it would not be fine.
Cops love to get their kicks too.

Amber
 

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fuji said:
When I am having sex with a GF sometimes I just stop, inside her, and talk for awhile, make some jokes, and then after awhile, go back to the hard and fast stuff, then if I feel like I'm going to cum, maybe slow down again for awhile.
I think some SP would let you "stop, leave it inside her, and chat" <--we need an acronym for this.

You just need to book longer session.
 
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