Ghomeshi?

[canada-man]

 

[Perry Mason]

Perry, I'm not just asking out of my own curiosity but on behalf of all the current innocent men and women languishing in jail for crimes they did not commit. Save them Perry !

You are breaking my heart!!!

Like, you the Terb Jury will definitely do something meaningful in response to any effort that I make to say something meaningful!!!!


:rofl::rofl::rofl:


I had more respect for you and your intelligence than I have ever had for fuji... was I mistaken?

OTOH, if you insist on my expressing an opinion, you can retain me! My hourly rate is $750 and I will require at least 6 hours to "prepare and present my case" and deal with all the responses.

May I expect your cheque by return mail?

And, BTW, do you not know that a responsible writer writes the paper first and then the abstract, not the other way around?

Perry

 

[fuji]

The Japanese court system is not consistent with democracy, in fact is highly totalitarian and is full of bureaucratic elite males who do not think much of women. Cases are decided at the time of an arrest. Sexual harassment in these circles is rampant among judges and court officials.
The Yakuza are an inherent part of many aspects of the Japanese economy and have a working relationship with the police. Your mentioning of Japan vis a visit the Ghomeshi trial is still non-sequitur. The Toronto Police had ample evidence to arrest Ghomeshi. It was some of the accuser who mislead the police and the court that caused this result by sabotaging their own cases. LE did not know what the plaintiffs might say under oath nor what evidence that they had concealed only to be revealed in court.

I didn't mention it vis a vis the Ghomeshi trial, I mentioned it in response to a general statement about the Justice system unrelated to Ghomeshi.

Delete your post / rewrite it after understanding that.

 

[IM469]

1) Like, you the Terb Jury will definitely do something meaningful in response to any effort that I make to say something meaningful!!!!

2) I had more respect for you and your intelligence than I have ever had for fuji... was I mistaken?

3) if you insist on my expressing an opinion, you can retain me! My hourly rate is $750 and I will require at least 6 hours to "prepare and present my case" and deal with all the responses.

4) And, BTW, do you not know that a responsible writer writes the paper first and then the abstract, not the other way around?

1) The terb jury can't do anything meaningful when there is no effort to present an idea. Not a concept, not a general description - just an unsubstantiated claim that when challenged suddenly involves more effort than Einstein needed to describe Relativity.

2) Yes, you are mistaken. I have no illusion that I am but a contributor of average intelligence (on good days) and right now I am sitting in awe of the intellectual repartee between yourself and Fuji.

3) Interesting, I have the privilege of working with two law firms (not criminal) and our relationship is that all detailed submissions/strategies are discussed prior to the final effort. These meetings are 'on the clock' but the elbow work is defined - something that is painfully lacking here. No outline, no general concept .. it is similar to me making the statement that I can make gold from tap water and soliciting $750/hr to figure out how.

4) I only work with existing law firms but I do contract professional engineering contractors (hardware/ software/ mechanical) and before I hire them, they must present a detailed 'Abstract' of the the work that they intend on doing before they get a green light. Task, outline of proposed work, time line and estimate. I suggest that that is for all purposes an 'Abstract' of the work that follows.

You have already uncovered my intellectual limitations and made aspersions towards Fuji (who I have had my own disagreements) but you cannot fault Fuji for at least making an effort to explain his viewpoint. I am sure you are not a law clerk living out your fantasy under a moniker of a famous lawyer but there could be others that have doubts.

Let's get the court clerk to read the transcript:

Celticman :'In a general sense, what would be a better system?'
Perry Mason: 'a) it must ensure that no innocents are convicted and no guilty are acquitted'
Fuji:'I think a) is philosophically impossible ..... No matter how good you make the system there will ALWAYS be cases where the evidence is simply lacking. You have to decide how to handle that--we have decided to presume innocence which lets some guilty people be acquitted.'
Perry Mason: 'So other than your philosophy, what is your argument, your evidence, your science?'
Fuji: 'I don't think you have a real answer for what to do when the evidence is simply lacking'
Perry Mason: 'As usual, you are missing the point!'
Perry Mason: ' I have many years experience working with the system: I am not reading it from a book or making it up as I go along! '

So if I may use your own quote to Fuji... 'So other than your philosophy, what is your argument, your evidence, your science?

Don't call out everyone else then pull some holier than thou crap that we are too intellectually stunted to grasp the rudimentary fundamentals of a system of justice that is totally flawless. Unless you made up the concept as you wrote it, you shouldn't require extensive $750/hr study to actually prove it works. This is an anonymous escort forum not a legal forum - what harm can it do to put a five sentence outline ? You've spent more time throwing up roadblocks than it would take to put up an outline.

Why am I pushing this ? Because it drives me crazy that someone suggests that they know how to achieve 100% correct guilty/not guilty and then refuses to share the most basic of outlines while pissing on other comments. And with my limited intelligence - I become fixated easily !