German Plane Crashes

[MissCroft]

There is some speculation that he might have had a brain tumor. Presumably, they will do an autopsy if they find his body.

I might get a lot of heck for this but IF these medical issues are true (brain tumor/schizophrenia,depression, etc.) then I don't think it's fair to simply call him a selfish asshole.

I am not saying that it's okay what he did. Of course I don't think it's okay and he should have disclosed his medical issues. But maybe his brain really wasn't functioning properly. ??



I had a friend commit suicide (in a horrific, tragic way). He had Schizophrenia - went off of his meds cold turkey thinking he didn't need them anymore. If he'd been taking his medication, I highly doubt it would've happened.

 

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I might get a lot of heck for this but IF these medical issues are true (brain tumor/schizophrenia,depression, etc.) then I don't think it's fair to simply call him a selfish asshole.

I am not saying that it's okay what he did. Of course I don't think it's okay and he should have disclosed his medical issues. But maybe his brain really wasn't functioning properly. ??

If this is all true then I would think his doctors should be held partially responsible for this tragedy

 

[AK-47]

If this is all true then I would think his doctors should be held partially responsible for this tragedy

They can't, there's something called doctor/patient confidentiality.

If a doctor opens his mouth and goes to the airline company he could be sued and lose his job

 

[AK-47]

Holy moly, this guy was a messed up puppy:

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/germanwing...led-suicide-gay-websites-before-crash-1494044

A "small mountain" of drugs believed to be antidepressants were found at Lubitz's apartment.

Antidepressants are used to treat range of conditions, including anxiety and panic disorders, obsessive-compulsive behaviour, phobias, post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD), chronic pain, as well as moderate and severe depression

 

[Aardvark154]

There is some speculation that he might have had a brain tumor. Presumably, they will do an autopsy if they find his body.

Given that the aircraft flew into the ground at about 500 kts, the remains of those who where killed have been reduced to pieces. There is no body to autopsy.

They have to identifying body parts by DNA typing.

 

[mandrill]

I cannot but imagine that ALL airlines henceforth will draft a "full mandatory disclosure" medical release policy for all flight crew and mandatory annual psych check-ups and testing.

 

[FAST]

They can't, there's something called doctor/patient confidentiality.

If a doctor opens his mouth and goes to the airline company he could be sued and lose his job

Looks like law makers the world over, are idiots.

I wonder how long it will take to modify this ASININE law.

There is going to be a lot of lawsuits now,...but of coarse,...some will have big smiles on their faces.

FAST

 

[destillat]

A terrorist only has to put a gun to a pilot's head to force the door open to gain access into the cockpit. The cockpit must only be opened from the inside.

No decent pilot would ever agree... he knows the entire plane is dead if he follows those instructions.

 

[destillat]

They can't, there's something called doctor/patient confidentiality.

If a doctor opens his mouth and goes to the airline company he could be sued and lose his job

So when I see my psychiatrist, he makes me sign a waiver stating that I am OK with him going to authorities if he feels that I may be a threat to myself or others.
But a doctor, who knows his patient is an airline pilot cannot notify authorities if he feels a patient has some mental health issues.

 

[AK-47]

I still think people are overreacting. Yes its tragic whats happened, but suicidal pilots who wanna die and take an entire airbus with them are extremely rare.

I think everyone needs to chill out a little

 

[GameBoy27]

They can't, there's something called doctor/patient confidentiality.

If a doctor opens his mouth and goes to the airline company he could be sued and lose his job

Under the Highway Traffic Act of Ontario physicians, optometrists and medical professionals are required by law to report any driver who may be suffering from a medical or physical condition that may impair the driver’s ability to safely drive. Maybe they need to adopt similar rules for pilots.

I still think people are overreacting. Yes its tragic whats happened, but suicidal pilots who wanna die and take an entire airbus with them are extremely rare.

I think everyone needs to chill out a little

Not something that will make the victim's families feel better, but so very true. This type of event as tragic as it was is extremely rare, especially when you factor in the number of flights on a daily basis.

 

[destillat]

Under the Highway Traffic Act of Ontario physicians, optometrists and medical professionals are required by law to report any driver who may be suffering from a medical or physical condition that may impair the driver’s ability to safely drive. Maybe they need to adopt similar rules for pilots.

Yep... a physician can send a letter to the MoT for just suspecting that the patient is an alcoholic and their license will be suspended (without even any proof of actually operating a motor vehicle under the influence).

 

[wilbur]

Yep... a physician can send a letter to the MoT for just suspecting that the patient is an alcoholic and their license will be suspended (without even any proof of actually operating a motor vehicle under the influence).

The rule exists in Canada for pilots. By law, when a pilot sees a doctor, he (or she) has to declare that they have a valid pilots license. The doctor is obligated by law to report a pilot to Transport Canada if they think that they are unfit to fly an airplane.

Germany has no such rule. A doctor could lose his doctor's license if he breaches the confidentiality rules.

The problem with Canada's rules, is that pilots who don't feel well may not freely consult with a doctor fearing their loss of livelihood. So you have pilots out there who may be flying while sick. Periodical medicals cannot uncover many underlying illnesses, and the assessment relies on what the pilot volunteers on the medical form and verbally to the doctor. And that applies to a whole lot of illnesses. An ECG is not a predictor of a heart attack, for instance. It will surely reveal one that has occurred, but not necessarily one that is about to happen. Plus, pilots are not screened with brain scans.

Working as a member of a union helps, because union contracts include loss of license or disability benefits, so there is less reluctance to withhold medical facts from the medical examiner, and more encouragement to seek help when issues arise.

The failure to report in Germany would not be the doctor's fault, but German law.

 

[SkyRider]

Luftansa insurers have set aside $300 million for potential damages.

 

[AK-47]

This type of event as tragic as it was is extremely rare, especially when you factor in the number of flights on a daily basis

Supposedly you have to fly once every day, 365 days of the year, for 60,000 years before you statistically would be in danger of dying in an airplane crash

 

[SkyRider]

Apparently, they have found a cellphone video of the final minutes.

 

[Aardvark154]

Apparently, they have found a cellphone video of the final minutes.

The Gendarmerie have said it is a hoax.

Their statement certainly makes sense to me given that the aircraft struck the ground at about 500 kts, and just about everything except parts of the landing gear were smashed into very small fragments I'm not at all convinced that a cell phone has been recovered in usable condition.

 

[destillat]

The Gendarmerie have said it is a hoax.

Their statement certainly makes sense to me given that the aircraft struck the ground at about 500 kts, and just about everything except parts of the landing gear were smashed into very small fragments I'm not at all convinced that a cell phone has been recovered in usable condition.

Although I do think that it might be possible for a microSD card to survive in tact.
That would be interesting.

 

[AK-47]

99% sure its a fake

 

[Aardvark154]

Although I do think that it might be possible for a microSD card to survive intact.
That would be interesting.

Yes, it would be possible, it would also mean that French Accident Investigators are amazingly unprofessional, immoral, unethical, criminal, pond scum that they would take a video which might prove of great significance to the investigation, steal it and then sell the video to tabloid newspapers.