"Gentleman" and "Service"

shyguy2222

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I had an interesting experience with a young lady during a recent visit to Toronto. I called a well-known EE agency and asked to see a young lady that caught my fancy (both agency and lady shall remain nameless). We took care of business and she and I spent a few minutes chatting and made out on the couch. Her stomach was growling audibly. She said that she hadnt eaten since lunch (over 10 hours ago). So I offered to order room service. She asked for ice cream, which was delivered promptly. She spent the next 30 minutes enjoying the treat!!

I did not want to be rude and tell her to put away the ice cream, and blow me! She obviously enjoyed the ice cream, and I was glad I could help. But I must admit that I had conflicting feelings - afterall, I did not pay $200 for the hour to watch her enjoy ice cream and make small talk. The session ended with little action for me.

I dont particularly enjoy being a prick to the ladies, but how do I avoid a similar situation in the future?
 

shack

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Choices.

1)Have some snack food waiting in the room so she can have a quick bite right away.

2)Book her for a longer time so you still have time to do the deed in a leisurely manner.

3)Have a pizza delivered to her previous call while she's there.

4)Offer her some tubesteak and let her know that you give her permission to swallow.
 

oldjones

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I sympathize. Obviously you needed to find a way to say to her, what you've said to us, and hope that her agency could cope with a 30 minute time out. Not an easy option. But maybe better than you had?
But wait a sec! How do you make a room service sized helping of ice cream last for half an hour? Did you think at the time she was perhaps deliberately prolonging her creamy treat, when yours was going begging? Silence is only golden for her at a time like that.
Communicating your misgivings at the moment might just have led to some inventive uses of the ice cream, eating included. Though as a gentleman, I'm sure you would endure the shivers and goosbumps for her sake.
Next time funfood for both of you, on hand. Or earplugs-happens all the time.
 

cyberbard

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shack said:
Choices.

1)Have some snack food waiting in the room so she can have a quick bite right away.

2)Book her for a longer time so you still have time to do the deed in a leisurely manner.

3)Have a pizza delivered to her previous call while she's there.

4)Offer her some tubesteak and let her know that you give her permission to swallow.
Problem is, why would you assume she is hungry?

This story sounds like a valid complaint, IMO. If she was that hungry, she (or her driver) should have made time during her day to solve that so as not to affect your meeting. That's an awful lot of money to spend to watch her eat...unless you're into that type of thing.

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shack

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cyberbard said:
Problem is, why would you assume she is hungry?
Exactly. I don't think it's something that the client should have a major concern regarding and of my "choices", the first one, which is quite easy, should be as far as we have to go. Seeing as I only do outcalls to my residence, if the lady is hungry, I can readily provide something. If you're in a hotel, it's not hard to have a few munchies ready. It never hurts to be a good host and offer the lady a nibble or a drink, but I don't want her having a four course meal on my time.
 

shyguy2222

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oldjones said:

But wait a sec! How do you make a room service sized helping of ice cream last for half an hour? Did you think at the time she was perhaps deliberately prolonging her creamy treat, when yours was going begging? Silence is only golden for her at a time like that.
In all fairness to her, it was a large helping of ice cream, and if I were eating the same ice cream with a ball game on the teli, I would have enjoyed the creamy treat for 30 minutes as well. So I do not think that she "dragged out" the meal.
 

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shyguy2222 said:
So I offered to order room service. She asked for ice cream, which was delivered promptly. She spent the next 30 minutes enjoying the treat!!
Was she naked all this time? Yum, nude girl eatin ice cream. If not, too bad. :(
 

CyberGoth

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no work ethic there...

you got conned.

anyone who comes over and just talks or just eats or whatever.... but doesnt work, is likely a con-artist. [and are a waste of YOUR hard earned money, time and energy]
 

kara

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from a sp's point of view

Wow you are a gentlemen.......way too much so. I understand you did not want to be rude, .but c'mon she knew why she was there......We all know what we leave the house for, and it's not to eat ice cream and chit chat.(or mabye it is mabye hes into that There are fetishes for that I am sure lol)......If she was very comfortable with you ordering room service , it must not be the first time. Even if she was STARVING there are many take out places on the way to you I am sure or she could have grabbed a snack afterwards.


I have had clients ask if we would like room service ordered and I decline, as I usually realize they are trying to be polite, but that is not why I am there. I have on many occasions been asked to join them after our session for a bite to eat and then yes, to me that is fine....but during a session I have other things on my mind ;)


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Hi Shyguy...
Taylor here adding another SP's POV .
You seem to be the type of client I have been encountering lately......thoughtful and kind among other admirable qualities.
I don't think she handled the situation properly. She should have refused, eaten quicker or involved the ice cream in some way...)~
Was she delaying?.... maybe she was ... maybe she wasn't.... only one person can answer that. I am finding many clients lately are seeking more than the fun part (though they tend to be the longer calls) and maybe some signs were misread.
The problem is many guys feel awkward and unsure about what, when, how and if they should say things. It would be easier/more comfortable/rewarding if the laws were as such that more verbal communication could take place without the fear of LE (rightly or not).
I would call the agency to express your concern, understanding that you also could have spoken up at the time to the SP. Time together can be nervous for both parties.... maybe seeking someone a bit more forward/aggressive next time to ensure a rewarding time might help...
Hey in an ideal situation she would have ordered the ice cream and asked the client if he'd like to be the bowl!!... better yet my stomach is concave when I lay on my back and might have room for a sccoop or two....and some whipped cream and chocolate sauce and don't forget the nuts!!!!
Naughty (and now sticky) Dreams
Taylor
 

shyguy2222

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Thanks for your responses and input.

Well, the general opinion seems to be that I was not assertive enough, and in retrospect, it would be hard for me to disagree. However, after reading about the working conditions at some of the local EE agencies, I found it hard to push the issue. Oh well...I suppose thats the price to pay for being a newbie to the Toronto hobby scene.
 

thighspy

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Raspbeery Perhaps my dear?????

Like the Man said---Quote--There is a Sucker born every minute...
You are the -Client-,if you want to watch Ladies slurping Ice cream,go to an ice cream Parlour..


Life is too short to hurry.

P.S Still looking for your Highschool Sweetheart??????
 

MuffinMuncher

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Well, the general opinion seems to be that I was not assertive enough, and in retrospect, it would be hard for me to disagree. However, after reading about the working conditions at some of the local EE agencies, I found it hard to push the issue.
First, in the long run it is far better for you to be "too nice" as opposed to "not nice enough". Especially as you repeat with regulars, most SPs appreciate the generosity and empathy, and you will be handsomely rewarded for your efforts. The one thing that most guys dont understand is how far good manners and common courtesy will get you in this business.

Second, although I understand your reaction to the EE Agency issue, unfortunately we have a few habitual pollyannas on this board who use the plight of some EE girls to generalize treatment of all of them. Not every SP named Anna or Maria or Eva is enslaved and mistreated.

Finally, I do not find ANY fault with this SPs behaviour! She took the invitation as it was offered, she did not ask for the ice cream. Given the option to make the same amount of effort, and having permission to take a snack break on your time, its a no brainer. My point is that it doesnt make either one of you a bad person, just bad communicators.
 

drlove

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I was in a similar situation a few years ago. The SP I saw seemed intent on talking for the entire duration, or so it seemed. I agree with the other comments that were made in that you need to be more assertive when a situation like the one you described presents itself.

It is quite possible to retain a softspoken, gentlemanly approach while gently steering the appointment in the direction you wish to go in. This works for about 99% of the cases out there. If on the other hand, you feel as though you are being scammed, be upfront and say, we only have "x" amount of time left; I'd like to get started. Remember, you're the one who's paying!
 

CyberGoth

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perhaps its simply a case where the person with the non-existant work ethic believes that "oral sex" merely means "talking alot" ??
 

tboy

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Its funny, with non sp women I hear all the time that men are too agressive and find that in this situation, we are not agressive enough. I too often find that it is up to me to plainly and openly state what my expectations are, direct the encounter to get the ball rolling (so to speak) and generally make sure the session turns out to my expectations.

I think what we, as clients, have to do is to make sure that everything goes as we want. Do it in a nice way of course, and be as gentlemanly as possible. Otherwise this sort of thing will result.

We all have to understand that there are some clients out there who just want some female companionship for an hour, some just want to f*ck, and some want more of a romantic interlude. As an sp, sometimes she has to be agressive and ask what or how the client wishes to see the encounter progress and as clients we have to insure that we let the sp know what it is we expect.
 

zog

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Let's hear it for the (t)boy!

That's right.

There's nothing wrong with expressing your preferences for the encounter because there are many different ways to spend one (or more) hours with an SP. Just remember that a respectful approach is always the best but this does not mean that you should not enjoy your session.

Many SPs are very upfront about asking what you want to do while others smoothly take the client's lead follow where he wants to go. Both are good approaches (when done well) but the client also has a role to play.

My own preference is for the SP to lead the session most of the time, though I will drop subtle hints if I want to steer things toward a direction that I prefer. With most SPs I've enjoyed seeing, the hints are followed smoothly.

Perhaps in the case described in this thread the hints to move on from the ice cream portion of the evening were too subtle or the SP was really quite hungry and didn't pay close enough attention. Of course, there is also the possibility that she intentionally delayed matters to make the session easier for her (and less fun for the client). If you feel that this might be the case, I would suggest looking elsewhere for your next encounter.

I've actually has SPs stop and ask if we should "move to the bedroom" or other such suggestions when they though that time might be wasting in the session. Often I'm cool with the pace but it's nice to know the woman is concerned with making the session go well.

Zog.
 

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I think sometimes you have to bite the bullet and do the right thing. Obviously she was hungry, and you did her a good turn. Once the sex is over it's over but doing a good thing has a positive lasting influence. Besides, how would you have felt if she really was one of those EE girls who are virtual slaves and you told her to drop her ice cream so she could give you a blow? Who knows, you might have given her a much needed break that she was very grateful to you for. Even if you were taken, being a sucker is not the worst thing in the world that you can be.
 
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