Generation Y?

[Shades]

Received an invitation to a training program to deal with employing people in Generation Y....This is a new one on me!
This is how they described this new social group...
"The persons from the generation Y working in a business are characterized as “independent”, “multi-tasking”, and even as “impatient” individuals. They are familiar with new technologies. They are driven and have the capacity to learn on an ongoing basis, they are mobile … and they have the choice of commitment or not, depending on the material conditions and the working atmosphere – if they meet their aspirations or not."
Anyone ever heard of this designation before?
Sounds like a bullshit attempt to define a new niche for HR trainers.

 

[Robio]

They are in between Generation X and Z

It is a load of crap!

I am finding radical differences in the upcoming generations were they can not be categorized. You will get one kid who has a great work ethic and is a credit to his generation and you will get another the same age background that will put more effort into avoiding work then just doing it. In the past I never had seen such extremes in individuals

 

[a 1 player]

In the industry I am in, I have employed a lot of Generation Y's. I agree with the previous statement mostly. The Baby Boomers and Gen. Xers I employ are for the most part a pretty stable crew. The Y's though (again stereotyping), beleive high absenteeism is ok, that they have the right to be employed by me regardless of performance and merit. One of them told me to "get out of the way old man, I'll have your job in 3 years", had to laugh. I own the company.

That being said, yes some of them are fine, hard working and determined employees.

 

[Neverenuff$]

Why not assign yourself to toilet cleaning duties... then fast track the kid....

 

[Robio]

Ya what is with the absenteeism mentioned above by player ? I would like to add them being so late and thinking it is ok. I am not talking about 5 or 10 min either. It is mind blowing what they think is ok and acceptable.
I like the comment you said was he will have your Job in 3 years player. I had the same type of comment made to me and I replied with you at the helm this place would go under in six months so we will not worried about needing to fire you ass .

 

[stang]

Why ?

 

[Keebler Elf]

Generation Y is not crap. It's a designation that's been around for years and is very much legitimate. Every generation has it's own designation and Generation Y is just one of the latest. IIRC, we're onto the generation after Generation Y though and there's a name for it as well.

A lot of old timers absolutely hate the fact that the young 'uns aren't willing to put with the BS they did. The growing labour market crisis is putting employees in the driver's seat for the first time in a long time.

"Oh yeah, there's the door? Well fuck you, I'm walking right through it with the rest of my classmates and you can stick yourself with the inferior employee monkeys, if you can even find some stupid enough to work for you!"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generation_Y

 

[Keebler Elf]

The Y's though (again stereotyping), beleive high absenteeism is ok...

One of them told me to "get out of the way old man, I'll have your job in 3 years", had to laugh. I own the company.

Both of these statements are very much true. It's not that they believe high absenteeism is okay, it's just that they thoroughly do not believe in living a 9-5, 40-hour work week existence (that's for lifers with no social lives). They believe in flexible work hours that enable them to have a life outside of work. Something older generations can't seem to wrap their heads around (or simply pay lip service to... which, btw, increasingly won't work as the labour market shortage worsens).

The second part is also true because young people actually want the president's job and they want it yesterday! People think kids aren't ambitious but the actual problem once they get into the workplace is that they're too ambitious and don't necessarily realize how unprepared they are to start off at the top. But that ignorance is usually short lived. The point is that if you think you can plunk your young employees into tedious grind jobs and have them "earn" their way up the corporate ladder, you're sadly mistaken. They'll go work for your competition and put you out of business.

What older generations need to learn (and they need to learn it damn fast!) is that the labour market is changing dramatically and it's changing in favour of new employees. There simply aren't enough workers coming down the pike to fill all the jobs that are being vacated by retirees. If you're an employer, you need to educate yourself on this phenomenon PRONTO! If you haven't already, you're years behind those who have.

p.s., if you're one of those people who say, "When I was their age...", A) you're old; and B) the young person you're talking to has already completed discounted whatever it is you're about to say. Trust me, it's true.

p.p.s, (and this isn't addressed to anyone in particular) just because you don't understand something doesn't make it illigitimate. Do yourself a favour and educate yourself. You'll look a whole lot less stupid to people who actually know the truth about what you're talking about.

 

[Keebler Elf]

I'm 30, what generation am I?

Generation X

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generation_X

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generation_Y

 

[spatial_k]

Both of these statements are very much true. It's not that they believe high absenteeism is okay, it's just that they thoroughly do not believe in living a 9-5, 40-hour work week existence (that's for lifers with no social lives). They believe in flexible work hours that enable them to have a life outside of work. Something older generations can't seem to wrap their heads around (or simply pay lip service to... which, btw, increasingly won't work as the labour market shortage worsens).

Nice post, I totally agree. I also think that companies have had a role to play in shaping this attitude by how they're changing the structure of many jobs. Those stable, 40-hr jobs with pension and benefits are not as common as they used to be, and this generation has learned to distrust companies because they see downsizing and similar company actions not as an anomaly but what to expect.

 

[a 1 player]

Both of these statements are very much true. It's not that they believe high absenteeism is okay, it's just that they thoroughly do not believe in living a 9-5, 40-hour work week existence (that's for lifers with no social lives). They believe in flexible work hours that enable them to have a life outside of work. Something older generations can't seem to wrap their heads around (or simply pay lip service to... which, btw, increasingly won't work as the labour market shortage worsens).

I agree with this, however the job that they have taken requires well, basically 9-5. We work around our clients schedules, that is the core of our business. I already have a 4 day work week, and starting vacation time is 5 weeks, which can be taken in 4 hour intervals. I do however expect people to show up, and make an effort to do their job to the best of their ability.

The second part is also true because young people actually want the president's job and they want it yesterday! People think kids aren't ambitious but the actual problem once they get into the workplace is that they're too ambitious and don't necessarily realize how unprepared they are to start off at the top. But that ignorance is usually short lived. The point is that if you think you can plunk your young employees into tedious grind jobs and have them "earn" their way up the corporate ladder, you're sadly mistaken. They'll go work for your competition and put you out of business.

I agree with this as well, however to talk to the boss/owner with such blatant disrespect is something else. If the employee came to me and said, "Wow, I really like working here...I have got some good ideas...what would it take to obtain a management position?...I'm willing to learn the business..." etc., I would be more than willing to groom him to take over. Hell, if I could get more time off myself, that would definately be a benefit. I however am not willing to share my experience to a person who bites the hand that feeds him regardless of what 'talents' he has.

What older generations need to learn (and they need to learn it damn fast!) is that the labour market is changing dramatically and it's changing in favour of new employees. There simply aren't enough workers coming down the pike to fill all the jobs that are being vacated by retirees. If you're an employer, you need to educate yourself on this phenomenon PRONTO! If you haven't already, you're years behind those who have.

I understand the labour market well, and again you are correct. But I am not an old man at 38. This is an expanding business that I started myself 3 years ago. I have hired some (what I thought) was some bright young talent. With only 5 employees in the company, myself included (and being the oldest), again, what the hell was this kid thinking?

p.s., if you're one of those people who say, "When I was their age...", A) you're old; and B) the young person you're talking to has already completed discounted whatever it is you're about to say. Trust me, it's true.

p.p.s, (and this isn't addressed to anyone in particular) just because you don't understand something doesn't make it illigitimate. Do yourself a favour and educate yourself. You'll look a whole lot less stupid to people who actually know the truth about what you're talking about.

Isn't learning a life long process?

 

[Robio]

To many chiefs and not enough Indians

The second part is also true because young people actually want the president's job and they want it yesterday! People think kids aren't ambitious but the actual problem once they get into the workplace is that they're too ambitious and don't necessarily realize how unprepared they are to start off at the top. But that ignorance is usually short lived. The point is that if you think you can plunk your young employees into tedious grind jobs and have them "earn" their way up the corporate ladder, you're sadly mistaken. .

They all can not have the president's job and they need to know how and were the money comes from.

I am not saying all because some generation Y’s have it going on and are great employees but what I find and stated above is the extreme differences . You will get one Generation Y aged employees who is a credit to his kind yet another who is a total write off. There has always been good and bad employees in the past but not in the extreme that I have seen in the Generation Y’s.

If the write offs put more effort into avoiding work then actually getting it done then going to work for the competition and will only help eliminate the competition.

The generation Y’s that is a credit to society is usually the last ones to say "get out of the way old man, I'll have your job in 3 years" or even think it yet become successful sooner.

One thing I explained to a Total write off type was “If you were to pay someone like yourself the wage you get what would you expect from him(or her) “

I find most of these “Total write off types” try to act like tuff punks but are really mollycoddled wimps

 

[Robio]

Generation Sex

Generation "Yummy"

Generation "SEX"

 

[Keebler Elf]

So I can be a X or a Y, no wonder I am so confused?

Dunno why. The link says 1960's to 1970's is Generation X and 1980's to 1995 is Generation Y.

 

[LancsLad]

So I can be a X or a Y, no wonder I am so confused?

If we aretalking chromosones then I suppose its reasonable for you to be gender confused!!

 

[LancsLad]

BOOMERS RULE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[red]

"Oh yeah, there's the door? Well fuck you, I'm walking right through it with the rest of my classmates and you can stick yourself with the inferior employee monkeys, if you can even find some stupid enough to work for you!"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generation_Y

don't let the door hit you on the way out, as I can hire 100 people from overseas to do your job better and cheaper and without the attitude.

 

[Keebler Elf]

don't let the door hit you on the way out, as I can hire 100 people from overseas to do your job better and cheaper and without the attitude.

LOL! Actually, no, you can't. But I'll let you find that out the hard way.

You're the employer who will lose in the growing labour market war. Have fun!

p.s., that was a pretty STUPID comment to make when you have no idea what I do. I wouldn't be at all surprised if that stupidity carries over into your business decisions. Oh yeah, you've already shown that it does.

 

[Keebler Elf]

I copied this line from the generation Y link you provided. second line into the description.

Read the entire paragraph and then think about what you're reading. It's not a contradiction because there is no "definitive" source on the matter.

 

[Robio]

If you were born in Toronto you are Generation YYZ

Dunno why. The link says 1960's to 1970's is Generation X and 1980's to 1995 is Generation Y.

So after 1995 is that Generation Z?
and after that we will have Generation AA ( Bunch of Drunks )
before the 1960's Generation V ?

Generation ‘Why’
Why were you born?