Gas Prices ...

VERYBADBOY

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So you think you’re getting hosed at the nozzle? Here’s a quick look at what Canadians across the country are paying for a litre of regular

Salt Spring Island, B.C.: $1.01
Vancouver: 97.5 cents
Whitehorse, N.W.T.: 94.5 cents
Edmonton: 82.3 cents
Regina: 89.9 cents
Winnipeg: 80.9 cents
Montreal: 92.9 cents
Halifax: 93.9 cents
Fredericton: 93.9 cents
Charlottetown: 83.6 cents
St. John's, Nfld: 92.6 cents

This is as of the last increase ...

So what's your thoughts ??? Profits ??? Politicians ??? Iraq ???
 

xarir

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VERYBADBOY said:
Profits ??? Politicians ??? Iraq ???
All of the above IMHO. Prices in Europe are still quite a bit higher than here - across the pond (and paradoxically closer to the source of most of the world's oil) they pay about one Euro per litre or regular gas. That's almost $1.65 Canadian per litre! I suppose in some corner of the world it's even higher than that.
 

brat_man_7

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Ahh , is still a bargain at half the price. Just keep driving those SUV's.


cheers
 

xarir

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brat_man_7 said:
Just keep driving those SUV's.
LOL! Quite true.

Personally I don't know what people expect. Oil is a non-renewable resource; ergo prices are only going to keep climbing as supply dwindles. At current rates of consumption it's entirely possible that in our lifetime, we will see the end of "easy" oil. (Oil that's relatively easy to extract from the ground.) Then what?

The not-so-serious push for alternative energy sources, particularly in cars will need a serious kick in the ass soon I think.
 

brat_man_7

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I thik we should all be driving HUM V's. Especially if you live in the city. They make great commuting vehicles. Even better we should have a second one for the wife. Just because everyone needs to be really safe. Heck we wouldn't want to jepordize the safety of our children and our family.
In case of an accident we should make sure our safety is first and that the other person is killed instead. Nice.

Myself I was looking on the army surplus site and they have used army personnel carriers. Only 14 years old. 9 liter diesel engine. About 7 miles to the gallon and 6 wheel drive. Now this would be just great. I also would purchase a 35 ft. boat to tow to the cottage in the Muskoka's. Althought the windows are pretty small in these and the wife and kids would complain. But for me it would be great.


Cheers
 

shack

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xarir said:
The conclusion of this site is that sometime in 1999 we had consumed 50% of the world's easy oil and that around 2050 we will have consumed 100% of it.
Not a problem. I'll be dead by then.
 

kbluejayk

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The consumer is in a 'can't win' situation! the 'Big 4' have destroyed the competition and control the price at the wholesale & retail level.......they adopt a yo-yo pricing strategy whereby they all move in unison like a well choreographed pack of trained seals, but of course there is NO COLLUSION!!! in a pigs ear!

The government has both hands in the cookie jar and will obviously do NOTHING but conduct endless useless enquiries.......

I have always believed in and supported free enterprise, the 'engine' of our economy, but what we are seeing and experiencing is corporate greed in its worst 'damn the customer' form!! the problem cries out for government control of the pricing structure, just like it controls the cable tv companies and the auto insurance rates in Canada. there must be a formula that can be worked out to allow for price control and profit and create stability in this industry!

Why should I have to join a frantic line up of vehicles every Monday night coming into the pumps from all directions before the 10 cent a litre price jump at 9.00 p.m.??

why is there such a big difference per litre for the 3 gas grades, when over the border the price difference is only pennies per GALLON???

the 'big 4' plays us like a fiddle week after week and blames everything on supply and demand, yet they CONTROL the supply and CREATE the demand!

We need stability and control, geared to the OPEC net cost...... and politicians with the will to bring it all about!
 

Dancerfan

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kbluejayk said:
The government has both hands in the cookie jar and will obviously do NOTHING but conduct endless useless enquiries.......
We need stability and control, geared to the OPEC net cost...... and politicians with the will to bring it all about!
And we will never have that as long as people here keep electing incompetent Liberal governments!

And as ive said before............
 

wollensak

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Cheap Gas not the answer

American Gas is the cheapest in the G7 which is why everyone down there drives fat-assed pickups and SUVs.

If everyone did this, the oil would already be gone. If the Americans cut back on their fuel consumption, they wouldn,t need to be in Iraq.

It doesn't matter who's in power in Canada, oil prices will be higher. No government is going to curtail their revenues by lowering gas taxes especailly when urban sprawl demands more and more highway construction. As Pogo says, I have seen the enemy and it is us.

I wish the government would compel the oil companies to supply cleaner gas. The crap we burn here would be illegal in Buffalo.
The sulfur content is off the scale. Esso is the worst (it figures).

Road users pay high gas taxes but road travel is still subsidized by the government. Rail can't compete with trucks even though it is way more fuel efficient and their hasn't been any new public transit initiative in years. As long as gas is cheap we'll just get more gridlock and pollution.

A better case could be made for public auto insurance. Face it you're probably paying as much for auto insurance as you do for gas and you don't dare ever make a claim. Now that's highway robbery.
 

rembrandt100

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Funny isn't it? People pay $2.29 at the corner store for a 2 liter bottle of Coke, Pepsi, or what ever that is made from readily available ingrediants.(ck/sp)

But fuel. Which first has to be found, drilled for, transported, refined, transported again to point of sale, then sold to the consumer, and sold for over $0.75 and we go apeshit.

Go figure.

Dave
 

newly_single

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rembrandt100 said:
Funny isn't it? People pay $2.29 at the corner store for a 2 liter bottle of Coke, Pepsi, or what ever that is made from readily available ingrediants.(ck/sp)

But fuel. Which first has to be found, drilled for, transported, refined, transported again to point of sale, then sold to the consumer, and sold for over $0.75 and we go apeshit.

Go figure.

Dave
*laughs* Are you serious? First off, The Avg price of soda is 0.99 to 1.49 a litre.

Second, think about the packaging, transportation costs, and marketing costs. Then ask yourself if what you said makes sense.
 

tboy

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I think the comparisons between other products price per litre and gas is a little skewed. First of all most of the other products are not a necessity like fuel is. Soft drinks, well, you don't need them do you? Unless you're like me and are addicted to pepsi lol

Now you could argue that we all should take public transit but there was a statement in the news this week that if 10% of the people who drive to work, stopped and took public transit, the system couldn't handle it.

FYI: even with the traffic backlog on the gardiner/qew it takes me about 30 minutes to get to work. If I took the TTC it would be about 1 hour to 1.25 hrs. (street car, 2 subways, bus).

You really want to improve the system? Start offerring a 25% reduction on income taxes if you move to within 1 mile of your job. 20% 2 miles etc.

WHat kills me is people who move to places like orangeville etc and commute 2 hrs + everyday, each way. WHat are ya? NUTS?
 

brat_man_7

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Tboy. If everyone lived within 1 or 2 miles from work. You wouldn't have/need a job. A high percentage of the population is employed in the auto industry or auto related.
If we weren't driving everywhere there wouldn't be a need for automobiles.
If all those well paid autoworkers weren't working at GM/Ford and Chrysler, you wouldn't have support for all the down town restaurants, shopping, sp's, etc....
So be careful what you wish for.

Its a viscious circle.

Cheers.
 

oldjones

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tboy you haven't demonstrated that your gas is a necessity, just that you're willing to pay these prices to keep driving, alone in your car.
Of course this isn't you, but…. Having made the choice of the "cheaper than downtown" residence that needs support from two incomes, ensured by two over-heavy vehicles (safety, doncha'know, and couldn't have one of 'em unable to take the kids) to make their absurdly long commutes, the North American middle class claims necessity, unless the whole of society pays for a bus to pick them up at their door.
Used to be it was a real estate selling point, that you could walk to work—that the house was near the factory—but we chose a different lifestyle, on the comletely stupid assumption that gasoline would always be cheap.
Tough nuggies. There are lots and lots of alternatives. But none that aren't going to demand we change the way we think and do things.
 

Keebler Elf

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People who blame the gov't or gas companies are the same people who don't want to take personal responsibility for the problems we face in society. Gas prices are high b/c oil consumption continues to escalate. Asia is an emerging economic powerhouse and it needs oil to fuel its machine; that drives up the cost of fuel. Lack of investment in North American means reliance on foreign fuel supplies (i.e. Iraq & Saudi Arabia).

The real question is, what have YOU done to reduce fuel consumption? Hmmm? Do you drive an SUV? Do you leave the AC running at night or when you're at work? Do you car pool? Do you walk or take public transit?

People are to blame for this problem. The same people who complain about high gas prices. When I hear someone complaining about how much it costs to fill their gas-guzzling SUV I just laugh and say "you get what you deserve."
 

VERYBADBOY

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Heard on the news today that gas is 10 cents less over the border for each litre. Many people are going over just to fill up and are coming back.
 

newly_single

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I'm a salesman, on the road every day. This is going to cost me about $20 more in gas per month. Its irritating, but a cost of doing business. Mind you, I drive a Saturn, so I'm more of a socialist than most.
 
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VERYBADBOY said:
So you think you’re getting hosed at the nozzle? Here’s a quick look at what Canadians across the country are paying for a litre of regular

Salt Spring Island, B.C.: $1.01
Vancouver: 97.5 cents
Whitehorse, N.W.T.: 94.5 cents
Edmonton: 82.3 cents
Regina: 89.9 cents
Winnipeg: 80.9 cents
Montreal: 92.9 cents
Halifax: 93.9 cents
Fredericton: 93.9 cents
Charlottetown: 83.6 cents
St. John's, Nfld: 92.6 cents
What is the price in Toronto??

Actually in the GVA (Greater Vancouver Area), the price went down today to 93.9 (White Rock). On the Island, the price ranges from 90.9 (at a Tempo gas station in Bowser) to 97.9.. Salt Spring Island is an isolated area.

I heard that Calgary was around 72 cents
 
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