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Gas going up .40 cents????

bver_hunter

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39.6 cents over the next 10 years is the estimate, counter-balanced by increases in the carbon tax rebate.
But why should they mention the Carbon Tax Rebate? Since when have the Conservatives tried to post the full facts? Angry Poilievre just wants to get more and more pissed off by the second, s that the right wingers can post baseless facts based on their Climate Change Denials!!
 

JohnLarue

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10 years? Who cares then...
You will care
This is going to drive up the cost of everything you buy,
It is also layered on Top of the Clean Fuel Standard (a tax by any other name) and an increase to CPP premiums

Now maybe you make enough so that it will be an annoyance to you. If so they have a different plan in mind for you
The other thing to consider is this carbon tax will be massive burden on low income earners

It is evil
 

Frankfooter

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You will care
This is going to drive up the cost of everything you buy,
It is also layered on Top of the Clean Fuel Standard (a tax by any other name) and an increase to CPP premiums

Now maybe you make enough so that it will be an annoyance to you. If so they have a different plan in mind for you
The other thing to consider is this carbon tax will be massive burden on low income earners

It is evil
You don't care about low income earners, you only defend the 1% here.
Extreme weather is already driving up the cost of insurance and food.
 
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doggyorcg

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You don't care about low income earners, you only defend the 1% here.
Extreme weather is already driving up the cost of insurance and food.
Not to mention line ups a food banks are getting longer. And the people in line don't look homeless. They look like middle class folk - just very down trodden looking.

I say fuck this green bullshit. We need to take care of people in need first. And stop giving aid to other countries. Fuck'em. We have enough people to take care of in Canada.
 
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oil&gas

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39.6 cents over the next 10 years is the estimate, counter-balanced by increases in the carbon tax rebate.
Can someone explain what the point is to rebate a
tax intended for emission reduction? What if people
use the funds from rebate on activities that could
result in more emission like traveling oversea? Taxing
consumption of diesel and jet fuel big time for real
and use the revenue to pay off our debt would seem
to be the right way to reduce emission.
 

doggyorcg

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Can someone explain what the point is to rebate a
tax intended for emission reduction? What if people
use the funds from rebate on activities that could
result in more emission like traveling oversea? Taxing
consumption of diesel and jet fuel big time for real
and use the revenue to pay off our debt would seem
to be the right way to reduce emission.
I think I get it. Drive one of those electric cars (aka sewing machines) and get the carbon rebate when you buy it. But have to pay it back to dispose of the battery. Electric cars are the biggest scam on the environment.
 
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JohnLarue

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Can someone explain what the point is to rebate a
tax intended for emission reduction? What if people
use the funds from rebate on activities that could
result in more emission like traveling oversea? Taxing
consumption of diesel and jet fuel big time for real
and use the revenue to pay off our debt would seem
to be the right way to reduce emission.
Just about everything you consume requires energy to make or get it to you
So the Trudeau/ Butts ideology is they tax the energy used for everything you consume so that you will consume less

The carbon tax applies to diesel and jet fuel,
Lots of wonderful places to visit in the world over a lifetime. But only for the rich going forward

The Trudeau/ Butts ideology does not include the idea of debt repayment, never has, never will

as for emissions, they will continue to grow, Trudeaus carbon tax wont stop that
If your plan wont meet its stated objective. it is failure
This failure will be borne by all Canadians, whilst China keeps building coal fired power plants
China has 250 GW of coal-fired power under development - study
Canada could be sending them natural gas as a much cleaner substitute, however..... pipelines to our west coast -Not in the Trudeau/ Butts ideology


Rebates ?
That will just be a vote buying redistribution of wealth after the government wastes 10-20% of it on administration,...... for a while

This government promised not to raise the carbon tax until at least 2022, but here we are

McKenna said at the time that the government has, “no plan to increase the price post 2022. For Conservatives to suggest otherwise is simply false and misleading.”
“The plan is not to increase the price post-2022,” McKenna said in July 2019.
“Our position has not changed,” McKenna said a month later in August
.

The rebates will not keep pace with the increases as the government will be cash strapped just to service the debt they are accumulating and at some point the rebate will likly just just stop
 

saxon

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Carbon tax is not revenue neutral, what Trudeau doesn’t tell you is that they are charging GST on top of the carbon tax and the GST portion of the carbon tax is not given back to us.
 

y2kmark

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Plant trees (and food crops), you stupid motherfuckers!
 

smallhatchet

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But why should they mention the Carbon Tax Rebate? Since when have the Conservatives tried to post the full facts? Angry Poilievre just wants to get more and more pissed off by the second, s that the right wingers can post baseless facts based on their Climate Change Denials!!
How about the billions Trudeau STOLE from a childrens charity??

Do we have any full facts on that from our TRUSTED Liberal govt and media????

Are we getting the full facts of SNC-lavalin?

How about CERB payments made to jailed inmates???

How about full facts about which business got a helping hand with the billions given away??? Seems to us that they can only come up with about a handful of businesses at the moment?

How about looking at your criminal treasonous Liberal govt first before you make nonsensical statements about conservatives????
 

smallhatchet

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Yes actually. The carbon tax is intended to both make providers of emissions pay for the emissions and users of the end product (ie, gasoline) pay more for what they use. The idea is to encourage people to use less. The rebate is intended to offset the increase in prices for the consumer and provide a stimulus to the economy by giving consumers money to spend on other things. Carbon taxes have been shown to be effective. I don't expect anyone with the user name oil&gas to understand any of that.
Remember when we didnt need A/C a coupe of summers ago and the hydro company had to put an increase on the bill because they didnt make enough money???



Why save on energy when you get punished for it????
 

jerimander

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I wil try to find the reference but the carbon tax is being used to finance the massive influx of migrants into Canada. Trudeau wants nothing better than to reduce the two founding peoples of this country to just another ethnic group in his third world cocktail.
 
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