Is he? I've never really gotten that impression. The one scene from Sunday's episode that may suggest that he is is the one where he sees Jon go in her cabin, but his look could have meant any number of things.
Game of Thrones "SPOILER ALERT" Thread
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Enjoyed the last episode of the season but the beginning dragged on longer than I thought.. to say it was epic compared to the last few seasons... no, but the ending with the army of the undead wouldn't have it any other way.
The dragon pit scene - the reunions before the meet were interesting but led up to them all meeting.. enjoyed the Clegane brothers what was that all about except for bad blood so was every family meet there.
I thought that they could do without Tyrion meeting with Cersei afterwards, he should know by now that all she craves is power and she has no intention of giving it up. Another decision gone wrong by hand of the queen.
Winterfell - well LF got his dues RIP. The sisters No longer have any beef but I enjoyed how it played out, have a feeling that Bran had a part to play that wasn't shown beforehand but his part in the great hall was enough. Nice to see Sam again and the final revelation? As to Jon/Aegon lineage, rumour online about Rhaegar/Lyanna wedding was true. This is a good storyline for S8.
Dragonstone - I guess this was Theons moment to shine plus another storyline for S8.
Boat - okay they finally got it on. I don't put too much stock into Tyrion watching.
Jaime - leaving KL and Cersei wasn't a surprise, I'm guessing he's heading north. Maybe he has found his honor and knows what the right thing to do. Brienne probably had something to do with it.
Eastwatch - the army of the dead with the help of an undead ice dragon bring down the wall and march south. Well I did get to see those giants again. Tormund and Beric escape but to where? My guess they travel along the top of the wall to Castle Black.
Overall, a shorter season with a bunch of stuff crammed in and lots of stuff left out leaving thinner plots to play out without expansion.. no wonder why GRRM is unhappy.
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The dragon pit scene - the reunions before the meet were interesting but led up to them all meeting.. enjoyed the Clegane brothers what was that all about except for bad blood so was every family meet there.
I thought that they could do without Tyrion meeting with Cersei afterwards, he should know by now that all she craves is power and she has no intention of giving it up. Another decision gone wrong by hand of the queen.
Winterfell - well LF got his dues RIP. The sisters No longer have any beef but I enjoyed how it played out, have a feeling that Bran had a part to play that wasn't shown beforehand but his part in the great hall was enough. Nice to see Sam again and the final revelation? As to Jon/Aegon lineage, rumour online about Rhaegar/Lyanna wedding was true. This is a good storyline for S8.
Dragonstone - I guess this was Theons moment to shine plus another storyline for S8.
Boat - okay they finally got it on. I don't put too much stock into Tyrion watching.
Jaime - leaving KL and Cersei wasn't a surprise, I'm guessing he's heading north. Maybe he has found his honor and knows what the right thing to do. Brienne probably had something to do with it.
Eastwatch - the army of the dead with the help of an undead ice dragon bring down the wall and march south. Well I did get to see those giants again. Tormund and Beric escape but to where? My guess they travel along the top of the wall to Castle Black.
Overall, a shorter season with a bunch of stuff crammed in and lots of stuff left out leaving thinner plots to play out without expansion.. no wonder why GRRM is unhappy.
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is it over yet ? LOL. sorry had too. I couldn't watch one of my favorite shows the other day because of the season finale of GOT and i was so mad they cancelled power for it... SMH .
So .. when Dany learns that Jon's her nephew, does she turn to him and call him out again for not agreeing to Cersei's condition of truce? After all, he could have honestly agreed that no son of Ned Stark would ever march or take up arms against Cersei: he's no son of Ned, and Bran isn't marching anywhere.
Also - has anyone told Theon that he didn't kill Bran?
Finally - does Sansa know to burn the body?
Also - has anyone told Theon that he didn't kill Bran?
Finally - does Sansa know to burn the body?
I think that Dany will happy to know that there is another member of her family alive and since Targeryen marry each other and he has a stronger claim to the throne it won't matter... also if Jaime does head north to Winterfell he will reveal Cersei betrayal therefore making any promises to her wouldn't make any difference. I think that Tyrion may have something to say about the two before knowing Jons lineage but afterwards that may change. Jon loves the north and has no desire to rule Westeros and will give that to Dany ... if they survive... and if Dany gets pregnant who knows?
I think that Theon already knew before, he had told Sansa previously, plus I'm pretty sure he knows that Arya and Bran are at Winterfell by now.
Burn the body? That would be an honourable funeral... feed him to the dogs like she did with Ramsey.
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CERSEI: “The Crown accepts your truce. Until the dead are defeated, they are the true enemy. In return, the King in the North will extend this truce. He will remain in the North where he belongs. He will not take up arms against the Lannisters. He will not choose sides. […] I ask it only of Ned Stark’s son. I know Ned Stark’s son will be true to his word.”
Hindsight is 20/20 and at this point neither knows they're aunt and nephew. By the time they figure out R + L = J, it won't take them long to realize Cersei has broken the truce by not sending her troops North.
Regardless, the actual terms were between Cersei and the "King of the North." The "Ned Stark's son" stuff was really about Jon being honourable above all else and therefore being true to his word, like his "father" Ned. Later, when he and Theon talk, (about Ned) Jon says "But you never lost him. He’s a part of you. Just like he’s a part of me.” When he does find out that Ned's not his biological father, I really don't believe that's going to fundamentally change his sense of honour.
Also, she doesn't say "march."
Just as Cersei can take up arms without doing any actual fighting, so can Bran, if for some reason he doesn't abdicate. This all assumes that the North (plus wildlings / The Vale) don't recognize the trueborn son of Rhaegar Targaryan as King, because of his parentage. Bran is also "Ned Stark's son" and would be obligated to the terms of whatever truce was struck by his predecessor.
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Theon knows he didn't kill Bran. Reek confessed it to Sansa in season 5 and to Ramsay even earlier. He made the lie up himself, with help from his Ironborn lieutenant(?).
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Hopefully she didn't burn him before Arya got a chance to steal his face. Aiden Gillen is a gem and I hope he's back next season.
Presumably Sansa is burning bodies. We didn't see the funeral pyre after the Battle of the Bastards, but Jon absolutely knows the consequences of unburned dead, so I imagine that by now it's pretty standard practice for Winterfell.
Interesting theory that the Starks possible Bran is the Knight King floating around....Aerial shot of the army of the dead on Sundays episode just before the dragon
There formation does resemble a wolf the symbol of the Starks
https://pmchollywoodlife.files.wordpress.com/2017/08/game-of-thrones-bran-the-night-king-embed.jpg?w=620&h=349
There formation does resemble a wolf the symbol of the Starks
https://pmchollywoodlife.files.wordpress.com/2017/08/game-of-thrones-bran-the-night-king-embed.jpg?w=620&h=349
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UcjvB20yLTQ
Here's the scene where Theon tells Sansa the truth about Bran and Rickon.
In other news, apparently there was a deleted scene in which Sansa asks Bran for advise on LF and he gives her the whole story about his betrayal.
http://bgr.com/2017/08/30/game-of-thrones-season-finale-cut-scene/
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Personally i was extremely satisfied with Little Finger's death. A little quick but to see him beg like a little bitch and boom slice throat by a Stark. Yup justice was served. I like the actor but i hated the character as in all he did. I get that they wanted to play the audience a bit with the whole Sansa vs Arya but it made so little sense, but oh well since the payoff was worth it im cool with it lol.
Otherwise its nice to finally have some resolve over some story arks. Its true this season was moving 100 km/h but in a way i can't say it was "bad" that it did. I mean i wish there would had been a little more talks and politics but at the same time i didn't want some useless "road talk" either. What i mean is that some peoples complain they moved fast from one location to the other, but in a way if nothing happened on the road? LOL whats the point of showing it.
We only got 7 episodes but there was lots of action and some of the best battles i ever seen , hell even for movie standards. I still wish we could had got 10 but fully satisfied with the 7 we got. Next season is only 6 so it will be even shorter... but im sure it will be action packed as well.
Its funny the irony in a way that Jon wanted to mobilize everybody against the dead but in the end the reason they do are able to move south is because they got there trying to capture one, without that they wouldn't had need Daenerys to go with the dragon and therefore the Night King wouldn't had got the dragon and possibily not able to make the wall crumble. I mean maybe giants and other stuff would had make it fall too, we will never know, but the dragon was the piece he needed...
Otherwise its nice to finally have some resolve over some story arks. Its true this season was moving 100 km/h but in a way i can't say it was "bad" that it did. I mean i wish there would had been a little more talks and politics but at the same time i didn't want some useless "road talk" either. What i mean is that some peoples complain they moved fast from one location to the other, but in a way if nothing happened on the road? LOL whats the point of showing it.
We only got 7 episodes but there was lots of action and some of the best battles i ever seen , hell even for movie standards. I still wish we could had got 10 but fully satisfied with the 7 we got. Next season is only 6 so it will be even shorter... but im sure it will be action packed as well.
Its funny the irony in a way that Jon wanted to mobilize everybody against the dead but in the end the reason they do are able to move south is because they got there trying to capture one, without that they wouldn't had need Daenerys to go with the dragon and therefore the Night King wouldn't had got the dragon and possibily not able to make the wall crumble. I mean maybe giants and other stuff would had make it fall too, we will never know, but the dragon was the piece he needed...
My own gripe with Littlefinger's end is that he had become so much of a dunce by the end that the victory wasn't as sweet as it could have been. Plus I would have rather the Stark sisters (specifically Sansa) outsmart him themselves, rather than use their ace-in-the-hole Bran.
I don't think I'd bet on this, but show logic seems to be taking a backseat to shock / surprise / twist, so I'm not ruling it out altogether.
The shape analysis is pretty similar to the blood pattern analysis so many were doing in the wake of Jon Snow getting stabbed at Castle Black beteeen season 5 and 6. We saw this level of crackpot-etude analysis after "Eastwatch" this season when some believed Jon saved himself from drowning/hyperthermia by warging into the dire wolf pommel on long claw.
Giant (unintentional) red herrings as we later found out.
I'm not saying Bran Stark being the Night King doesn't have ANY merit as a theory and wouldn't be a bit fun, but there's been almost no actual show work whatsoever to tie them together since Bran was 'marked' in "The Door."
It's been long-rumoured that the Night King is/was a Bran Stark, an ancient relative of the current Stark family, and a very popular name in the North, but otherwise not really connected.
It seems like 'Bran is a secret Night King' is going to take a ton of exposition to make any sense.
I'm confused on this though.
I think in the show the Night King, the first White Walker, was created by the Children of the Forest as a weapon they could use to wage war against the The First Men, who were burning down weirwoods and killing the locals during (or even before) the Age of Heroes. This turned out to be a bad idea as 'The Others' as they're known in the books, couldn't be controlled. They were only defeated when the Children joined up with the First Men who pushed them back to the far North, where they originated, after they discoverered their vulnerability to dragon glass. Brandon (The Builder) Stark, was pivitol in their defeat and would later Build the Wall with the help of Children of the Forest magic, which has kept the Others at bay for 7,000 or 8,000 years.
Nowhere in the story as it exists now does the Three Eyed Raven play a role, except that he's been around at-least as long, and presumably longer. He was part of the First Men and was a rare human with greensight who was living (peacefully) with the Children (creators and mortal enemies of the Others).
Totally.
Littlefinger isn't everyone's favourite character, but few have played a greater role in the events of the series (from Jon Arryn's death until now). I believe we deserved a better (more torturous?) and more complex end for such an asshole.
Like Ramsay and Walder Frey, by the time he died, there were no longer any stakes to make us emotionally conflicted by his death, unlike other (better IMO) villainous major character deaths like Tywin and Joffrey.
We were conflicted by Joffrey's murder because we knew who'd be going down for it; show work in earlier episodes/seasons ensured this. When Tywin, a very competent Hand, was murdered, we all knew that the far more villainous Cersei would step-up as the real power in Westeros - Uncle Kevan Lannister as Hand is barely memorable even 7 episodes after he died. I imagine I'm not in the minority for being conflicted by these very much satisfying deaths because of the (logical) negative inevitabilities caused by them.
To me, his death and totally inept Littlefingering this season was more about setting us up to be emotionally satisfied by seeing a bad guy get what's coming to him, especially via the scene's twist. That's what they did for Ramsay and Walder Frey. It was a letdown considering the time they spent in earlier seasons building him up as a character.
...Great they're dead. Go team Stark.
It could all be pivoting to give Arya a plot line for season 8. Presumably she has a Littlefinger mask now and the show hasn't really made it clear if he's a friend of the Crown if he were to go back to King's Landing. Team Cersei is looking a little thin; she probably wouldn't turn down the Lord of Harrenhall (no troops to my knowledge) and de facto Lord of the Eyrie if he wanted to sit on her Queen's council.
Personally, I would have had LF in King's Landing as LF, where Arya would have found him on her list after a quick Bran/Sana's dinner conversation. If LF was established as the only one in Jamie's absence keeping Cersei from Aegon-level villainy, his death at that point would not only have been emotionally satisfying, but have actual consequences, which I hope I'm not in the minority, for usually enjoying more than the moment of death itself.
I heard about this too. Another good opportunity for a character moment and some exposition which was bumped out to maximize the dramatic effect of a twist.
At this point, I'm still left wondering when Arya/Sansa actually learned of LF's betrayal(s).
-Did they have no clue until Bran told them?
-Or was it in the final Sansa and LF scene where he led her down the "She would be the Lady of Winterfell" duhhhh rhetoric pathway.
-Did Arya know the moment she first saw him? Was all that stuff with her and Sansa a ruse for us or for LF? Or was it in this scene that Arya realized Sansa was telling the truth, but wanted to wait out LF's next step (to know for sure?!?!?).
-Or has Sansa been playing him since he arrived back for the Battle of the Bastards.
It would have been nice to hear this, as right now I can only assume that the game of faces is garbage, Bran is a complete asshole for not telling his sisters the moment he realized that LF had betrayed their father, and Sansa is a muppet for believing him after so many betrayals of his she was been witness to.
But, I guess Weiss and Benioff thought the payoff for everything at Winterfell this whole season was really in the shock moment where the tables were finally turned on LF, and all the feels we got seeing the Stark kids work together.
Surprise is starting to become overused in the writer's room as a plot device methinks.
I'm disappointed by this plot line as you can probably tell.
Well the only thing that made me emotionally annoyed at Joffrey's death was that it was not at the hand of Jon (or actually even more Robb if the red wedding didn't happened)... I guess im cliché but i like the vilain to be killed by the hero in a great act of revenge/justice.
Yes Little Finger may have been a bit useless in the latest seasons, but the thing is even him couldn't predict everything. His endgame goal i guess was to end on the Iron Throne... i supose. But could he really achieve that? He was not even a true noble from a house, unless im mistaken, but more "made a lord" like Varys. He ran brothel.... not like he was much else. So i guess taking the power in the Vale was a step for him, and the next step was to Marry Sansa and get the North also. But he couldn't predict either Arya's return or Bran's visions. In the end as he says himself nobody was left alive that seen his betrayal exept Cersei. Maybe if played very differently she could had tell Sansa as in Sansa going to King's Leading with Little Finger as her "counselor" of some sorts, but in the end i knew t would happen this way and im glad it did.
So in that sense that episode make it to be one of the very best in the entire show and one of the most satisfying one.
I know the show has always been off the usual scheme of either shows or movies. For instance Robb never getting Revenge himself on Joffrey for the murder of his father, wich is what i rooted for during 2 seasons. Then Joffrey dying in a weird unsetting fashion..
At first i was like "yes the asshole is dead" but then realized how he died and thinking "ok but now what.... " as both the hero (Robb) and the vilain (Joffrey) where dead. At that time Jon was still deep into Nightwatch stuff completely out of the "main plot", Stannis was less than likable... and i was really not into Daenerys that much with her whole story across the sea. To me it was Stark vs Lannisters (and yeah i know Joffrey is thecnically a Baratheon but you got the point) I guess what kept me motivated was hoping to see LF died... no matter the way at that point...
So after 7 seasons... finally having some payback i hoped and wanted for so long, it does feel good.
Anyway that is obviously just my own point of view on the matter.
Yes Little Finger may have been a bit useless in the latest seasons, but the thing is even him couldn't predict everything. His endgame goal i guess was to end on the Iron Throne... i supose. But could he really achieve that? He was not even a true noble from a house, unless im mistaken, but more "made a lord" like Varys. He ran brothel.... not like he was much else. So i guess taking the power in the Vale was a step for him, and the next step was to Marry Sansa and get the North also. But he couldn't predict either Arya's return or Bran's visions. In the end as he says himself nobody was left alive that seen his betrayal exept Cersei. Maybe if played very differently she could had tell Sansa as in Sansa going to King's Leading with Little Finger as her "counselor" of some sorts, but in the end i knew t would happen this way and im glad it did.
Walder was never such a major player but a lackey of the Lannisters. It was satisfying to see him die this way cause thats what he deserved. As for Ramsey he was horrible ever since he was introduced, he was even worst of a human being that Joffrey was. Imagine if that Lunatic would had been more than what he was... During a couple seasons we see him being that atrocious person and then raping Sansa. The payback of the Battle of the basterds is not only satisfying in seeing him getting it, first the beat down by Jon then Sansa watching her get eaten alive by his dog, but also the fact that Winterfell goes back to The Starks. After what... 3 seasons seeing that Bolton emblem over it in the intro and such. The moment we see the Stark emblem fold off is a very simple scene but its so full of meaning...
So in that sense that episode make it to be one of the very best in the entire show and one of the most satisfying one.
I know the show has always been off the usual scheme of either shows or movies. For instance Robb never getting Revenge himself on Joffrey for the murder of his father, wich is what i rooted for during 2 seasons. Then Joffrey dying in a weird unsetting fashion..
At first i was like "yes the asshole is dead" but then realized how he died and thinking "ok but now what.... " as both the hero (Robb) and the vilain (Joffrey) where dead. At that time Jon was still deep into Nightwatch stuff completely out of the "main plot", Stannis was less than likable... and i was really not into Daenerys that much with her whole story across the sea. To me it was Stark vs Lannisters (and yeah i know Joffrey is thecnically a Baratheon but you got the point) I guess what kept me motivated was hoping to see LF died... no matter the way at that point...
So after 7 seasons... finally having some payback i hoped and wanted for so long, it does feel good.
Anyway that is obviously just my own point of view on the matter.
Summer ended so I started streaming again.
I hadn't planned on binging on S7 but I'm a sucker for spectacular cinematography. The opening of E1 is the best I've seen since The Sopranos S1 E11. A rare cold open with Arya's endgame (nasty little wench), I thought it was a flashback. The winter storm burst with the Whitewalkers appearing from it, with the dead giants, had me. Even though the rest of the episode was exposition, it didn't matter I was in for the ride.
Another incest angle, the Lannister's wasn't enough, that's the intrigue they're going to build S8 around. What happens when the bastard finds out he's not a bastard. As for Littlefinger he couldn't leave well enough alone. When you're a serial plotter eventually someone is going to get your dope. Hubris got him Baned again, Sansa is no loner a pliant virgin and you don't get between blood. The ex-bastard is making the same mistake that his faux father Ned Stark made, nobility without cunning is a sucker's ploy. The Khaleesi sacrifices a dragon to rescue expendables - in the name of misplaced love.
George R.R Martin is extremely shrewd and by extension a Sopranos fan. He understood the problems with the extended final of that show and avoided making the same mistakes. Season 7 is tight, cogent without any filler to slow the momentum down. As such he got the biggest audience for the finale of any long running series. IMHO Season 7 is the best of the lot. There is a hint of sadness to all this. Jack Gleeson has decided that acting is not for him. He was one of the better actors in this series, he played Jeoffrey Lannister like a fantastical Caligula. And then there's Peter Dinklage, if he were of normal size he'd be drinking Hollywood's milkshake.
Now that Tormund is no longer in the running are Brianna and The Hound finally going to rut?
Looking forward to Season 8.
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I hadn't planned on binging on S7 but I'm a sucker for spectacular cinematography. The opening of E1 is the best I've seen since The Sopranos S1 E11. A rare cold open with Arya's endgame (nasty little wench), I thought it was a flashback. The winter storm burst with the Whitewalkers appearing from it, with the dead giants, had me. Even though the rest of the episode was exposition, it didn't matter I was in for the ride.
Another incest angle, the Lannister's wasn't enough, that's the intrigue they're going to build S8 around. What happens when the bastard finds out he's not a bastard. As for Littlefinger he couldn't leave well enough alone. When you're a serial plotter eventually someone is going to get your dope. Hubris got him Baned again, Sansa is no loner a pliant virgin and you don't get between blood. The ex-bastard is making the same mistake that his faux father Ned Stark made, nobility without cunning is a sucker's ploy. The Khaleesi sacrifices a dragon to rescue expendables - in the name of misplaced love.
George R.R Martin is extremely shrewd and by extension a Sopranos fan. He understood the problems with the extended final of that show and avoided making the same mistakes. Season 7 is tight, cogent without any filler to slow the momentum down. As such he got the biggest audience for the finale of any long running series. IMHO Season 7 is the best of the lot. There is a hint of sadness to all this. Jack Gleeson has decided that acting is not for him. He was one of the better actors in this series, he played Jeoffrey Lannister like a fantastical Caligula. And then there's Peter Dinklage, if he were of normal size he'd be drinking Hollywood's milkshake.
Now that Tormund is no longer in the running are Brianna and The Hound finally going to rut?
Looking forward to Season 8.
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This video really sums up my feelings about this season, and to a lesser extent season 5 & 6.
Everything from Littlefinger's break with his character (as they built him up to be in the early seasons), to the "good guys" pulling out miracles, to nonsensical plot lines; like a risky venture beyond the Wall for what Tyrion should have known would be a minuscule chance of payoff, that seems to be more about setting up specific plot points than plausible narrative.
Everything from Littlefinger's break with his character (as they built him up to be in the early seasons), to the "good guys" pulling out miracles, to nonsensical plot lines; like a risky venture beyond the Wall for what Tyrion should have known would be a minuscule chance of payoff, that seems to be more about setting up specific plot points than plausible narrative.
So Season 8 will be the last season and I've been wondering how all this plays out.
Obviously the whyte walkers and the army of the dead are coming. So there's going to be an epic confrontation. That's a given. The question is, does it happen early, or at the end of the season. My guess is the second to last episode. GOT always, the second to last episode is the climax of the season. The last episode is the denouement.
I've got to figure that the Whytes are somehow defeated. I think that is also a given. I figure that their entire existence will be better explained, as will the night king. The big question is how are they defeated. Right now, the living simply don't have enough fire power to defeat them (so it seems). The night king has a dragon, Dany has 2, but we've seen how easily they can be killed. (Though maybe the living modify Cersei's dragon cross bow with some dragon glass. Many questions, but I see the living as somehow prevailing.)
The question really is, what happens to the characters?
1. Daenerys and Jon Snow. Now they've hooked up, the feeling is mutual, it's strong, and it's love from both ends. I don't think it will really matter that she's his aunt. One of the big questions is though, who is going to be the monarch? Jon technically out ranks Daenerys, however, she's more hell bent on power than he is and everything is set up for her to take power. I don't think Jon really wants power, but he's actually better with it than she is. He's far more reasonable, less impulsive, and he's far more analytical. But I don't think he aspires to be on the iron throne. I also don't think that GOT believes in happy endings. Bitter sweet is about as good as it gets in this show ever. So the one thing we've seen throughout the seasons is that just like in medieval Europe, alliances were born out of marriage. What does a marriage between Daenerys and Jon Snow get you? Nothing more than you have right now already.
So you then have 2 people (Jon Snow and Daenerys) who potentially could marry others to seal an alliance and presumably unite the warring houses.
I'm going to go out on a limb here (and this is my theory) that Daenereys will marry Jaime Lannister even though she is and will always be in love with Jon Snow. She will do it because she knows she has to. I expect the wedding scene would be full of tears as she looks at Jon as she takes Jaime's hand in marriage. I say this because the books are based on the War of the Roses and the War of the Roses was ended when Henry 7 defeated Richard 3 in battle but then in order to unite the two houses, he married Elizabeth York (from Richard's side).
So it doesn't make sense than Daenerys marries Jon and lives happily ever after.
Not in the Game of Thrones World.
It's either that, or Jon Snow marries Cersei. But I don't see that happening as she's too old, too evil, and I think Jaime (most likely) or Tyrion (possibly) is going to kill her. How or why, I don't know.
But clearly after Season 7, Episode 7, Cersei has no intention of allying with the north and Daenerys. So something has to happen to make that happen.
I don't see a completely happy ending here for anyone. (Well maybe Tormund and Brienne of Tarth. I don't think Tormund is dead yet and the show needs a little levity.)
So that leaves Sansa, Arya, Jon, the Hound, Tyrion. What happens to them?
More on that later......
Obviously the whyte walkers and the army of the dead are coming. So there's going to be an epic confrontation. That's a given. The question is, does it happen early, or at the end of the season. My guess is the second to last episode. GOT always, the second to last episode is the climax of the season. The last episode is the denouement.
I've got to figure that the Whytes are somehow defeated. I think that is also a given. I figure that their entire existence will be better explained, as will the night king. The big question is how are they defeated. Right now, the living simply don't have enough fire power to defeat them (so it seems). The night king has a dragon, Dany has 2, but we've seen how easily they can be killed. (Though maybe the living modify Cersei's dragon cross bow with some dragon glass. Many questions, but I see the living as somehow prevailing.)
The question really is, what happens to the characters?
1. Daenerys and Jon Snow. Now they've hooked up, the feeling is mutual, it's strong, and it's love from both ends. I don't think it will really matter that she's his aunt. One of the big questions is though, who is going to be the monarch? Jon technically out ranks Daenerys, however, she's more hell bent on power than he is and everything is set up for her to take power. I don't think Jon really wants power, but he's actually better with it than she is. He's far more reasonable, less impulsive, and he's far more analytical. But I don't think he aspires to be on the iron throne. I also don't think that GOT believes in happy endings. Bitter sweet is about as good as it gets in this show ever. So the one thing we've seen throughout the seasons is that just like in medieval Europe, alliances were born out of marriage. What does a marriage between Daenerys and Jon Snow get you? Nothing more than you have right now already.
So you then have 2 people (Jon Snow and Daenerys) who potentially could marry others to seal an alliance and presumably unite the warring houses.
I'm going to go out on a limb here (and this is my theory) that Daenereys will marry Jaime Lannister even though she is and will always be in love with Jon Snow. She will do it because she knows she has to. I expect the wedding scene would be full of tears as she looks at Jon as she takes Jaime's hand in marriage. I say this because the books are based on the War of the Roses and the War of the Roses was ended when Henry 7 defeated Richard 3 in battle but then in order to unite the two houses, he married Elizabeth York (from Richard's side).
So it doesn't make sense than Daenerys marries Jon and lives happily ever after.
Not in the Game of Thrones World.
It's either that, or Jon Snow marries Cersei. But I don't see that happening as she's too old, too evil, and I think Jaime (most likely) or Tyrion (possibly) is going to kill her. How or why, I don't know.
But clearly after Season 7, Episode 7, Cersei has no intention of allying with the north and Daenerys. So something has to happen to make that happen.
I don't see a completely happy ending here for anyone. (Well maybe Tormund and Brienne of Tarth. I don't think Tormund is dead yet and the show needs a little levity.)
So that leaves Sansa, Arya, Jon, the Hound, Tyrion. What happens to them?
More on that later......
The Lannister's are very Roman, Jeoffrey was Caligula and Cersei has become a female Nero. If that's what Martin intended then don't expect Jamie to be around for long in S8.
There's a juicy rumour that Bran Stark and The Night King are one and the same. It sort of makes sense to me since to this point Bran is a square peg in a round hole, his purpose hasn't been defined yet. According to the rumour, Bran traveled back in time to stop the rise of his alter ego. He failed and nearly became part of The Night King's psyche, the result of their struggle caused the last Tragaryen king to become mad and bequeath to the Khaleesi the powers she currently has. Not sure I buy it, I'll have to review Bran's time in the Old Forest again.
There's a juicy rumour that Bran Stark and The Night King are one and the same. It sort of makes sense to me since to this point Bran is a square peg in a round hole, his purpose hasn't been defined yet. According to the rumour, Bran traveled back in time to stop the rise of his alter ego. He failed and nearly became part of The Night King's psyche, the result of their struggle caused the last Tragaryen king to become mad and bequeath to the Khaleesi the powers she currently has. Not sure I buy it, I'll have to review Bran's time in the Old Forest again.
