Fwd suv's

wazup

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My old beater will be on its way to the wreckers soon, the one I'm looking at is a fwd, my current one is a 4x4. How do fwds drive, are they good in winter?
 
Cars that make you really want to drive are Rear wheel drive, but only in dry summer/late spring/early fall weather. FWD are much better in slippery city road. 4WD are a compromise by it will give you better traction. 4WD vehicles are suited if you drive a long distance on highway or do country roads.
 
AWD is best
FWD is ok
RWD isucks in winter

As long as you have a good set of winter tires and your driving is not "enthusiastic", you should be ok.
 
Are you buying new? What is your budget? AWD all the way. The right tires are also critical.
 
My old beater will be on its way to the wreckers soon, the one I'm looking at is a fwd, my current one is a 4x4. How do fwds drive, are they good in winter?

If you live in Toronto and you do not do any offroading, a 4x4 SUV is not neccessary. FWD is fine. Our winters arent even that bad. Good set of winter tires and common sense winter driving will suffice. Most newer vehicles are equiped with traction control anyway.

Also, know the difference between 4 x 4 and AWD. 4 x 4 all wheels are given power. AWD are front wheel drive vehicles that have a drive shaft that power the back wheels. Big difference. If you have an AWD, remove the drive shaft during spring/summer/fall to save $ on fuel.
 
Some AWD cars, drive just like RWD, until things get bad.

So you can enjoy the RWD feel, and have AWD when you need it, love my Q50, which is a RWD car that can also power the front wheels

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I put about 6k a year on so I buy used for 2 to 3 grand and they last me 4 to 5 years, never owned a fwd, my rwd sucked in winter, cursed at the top of my lungs many times, never buy again. I will buy an 05 or older.
 
You can get a decent Subaru for mid 20's if you're buying new... I'd recommend AWD over 4WD and RWD

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I don't know why anyone would buy new unless money wasn't a concern. There are some great vehicles for under 7 grand around. Although we all have different circumstances I guess.
 
I used to drive my E92 in the winter with no problems. You just need a nice set of winters.
 
I used to drive my E92 in the winter with no problems. You just need a nice set of winters.

Yep, used to drive my 330ci in the winter, only with snow tires, the tires that came with the car were great in the summer, but literally IMPOSSIBLE to drive in the snow.

I had to buy aluminum wheels for the winter tires, as no steel rims were available yet.

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My primary cars have always been FWD. With a set of good winter tires they've always been great in the snow. Never once even come close to getting stuck. The thing you have to remember is, AWD and 4WD won't help you stop any faster.
 
My primary cars have always been FWD. With a set of good winter tires they've always been great in the snow. Never once even come close to getting stuck. The thing you have to remember is, AWD and 4WD won't help you stop any faster.

Your point about idiots, who go flying past me in an AWD/4WD, thinking they can stop faster then ANY other car in the snow.

I always get the last laugh though, as I wave at them after an accident they caused.

My personal ride has never been a FWD, I just don't like the feel.

I have a AWD Q50 that is the best of both worlds, RWD in good conditions, and AWD when not, and I don't need snows.

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Your point about idiots, who go flying past me in an AWD/4WD, thinking they can stop faster then ANY other car in the snow.

I always get the last laugh though, as I wave at them after an accident they caused.

My personal ride has never been a FWD, I just don't like the feel.

I have a AWD Q50 that is the best of both worlds, RWD in good conditions, and AWD when not, and I don't need snows.

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You need winter tires if you want to maximize braking on snow and ice.
 
Another point to remember. In snow, FWD is better at preventing you from sliding/spinning out however its easier to manage the spin/slide on a RWD if you do happen to spin. FWD is horrible once you do get caught in a spin.
 
You need winter tires if you want to maximize braking on snow and ice.

Of coarse, but I drive smart, no need,... "to maximize braking on snow and ice".

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Another point to remember. In snow, FWD is better at preventing you from sliding/spinning out however its easier to manage the spin/slide on a RWD if you do happen to spin. FWD is horrible once you do get caught in a spin.

A man who actually knows how to drive, not very common now.

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You need winter tires if you want to maximize braking on snow and ice.

Agreed, and for handling on snow and ice.

Your point about idiots, who go flying past me in an AWD/4WD, thinking they can stop faster then ANY other car in the snow.
How do you know what they are thinking? Possible alternative: you were driving too slow and they think you are an idiot.

I always get the last laugh though, as I wave at them after an accident they caused.
How many times has that happened in the REAL world? If they were well in front of you, how do you know who caused the accident?

I have a AWD Q50 that is the best of both worlds, RWD in good conditions, and AWD when not, and I don't need snows
What tires are on your Q50, hopefully not the recent run flats? Because they suck. Is that because you have fresh, very good quality all-seasons, only drive in the city, don't drive when it's snowing and keep your speed low (see 1st point above)? You might not think you need them, but they absolutely would make a measurable safety improvement.

Part time all wheel drive cars can still get stuck even if equipped with snow tires. Most AWD systems transfer power front to back, not simultaneously front-to-back and side-to-side. Some systems can "lock" side-to-side and the more sophisticated systems can send torque to each wheel individually. i.e. Acura's SH-AWD, 1 of 3 Audi Quattro systems, Subaru Symmetrical AWD, 1 of 4 Jeep systems, etc. For example Infiniti's Q50 system is a part time non-torque vectoring system. It will transfer torque back-to-front, but uses the ABS system to reduce spin on a tire that's slipping. This system does offer traction benefits in rain, snow and ice as well as handling benefits, but the car can still get stuck, especially if it doesn't have snow tires. And of course none of this helps with braking and steering plow.
 
Another point to remember. In snow, FWD is better at preventing you from sliding/spinning out however its easier to manage the spin/slide on a RWD if you do happen to spin. FWD is horrible once you do get caught in a spin.

There's a good skid-control school out in Oakville which I've had the opportunity to attend. The techniques for recovery in a RWD and FWD are certainly different, but once taught and practiced, it's easy to recover in a FWD. I think the greater factor today, is that contemporary RWD cars tend to be performance cars with better balance, better tires, more sophisticated stability systems, wider and with a lower center of gravity. All of these items definitely allow for better skid control in an RWD car.


Of coarse, but I drive smart, no need,... "to maximize braking on snow and ice".
LOLOL, I wish I had a dime for every time a person said this foolish statement. I guess you don't need to wear a seat-belt either, you are too smart to get into an accident!
 
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A few comments regarding your posts, were you felt the overpowering need to quote me four times, I'm flattered.

- You can't read.

- Your current ride is a 10 year old Camry.

- You never raced formula cars at Mosport and the US for 6 years, or racing karts on slicks in the rain.

- You have no clue what you are talking about.

- You make statements about people and events that you have absolutely no knowledge about, in an effort to bolster your very fragile ego.

- You suffer from an inferiority complex.

Grow up, and get help.

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