Fuck you Ted Rogers and your stupid ass raping

[MarkII]

This thread is actually kind of humorous. Mao returned 3 movies a few days late and got nicked for 45.00 as per the contract agreement spelled out in the Roger's stores.

Now, Roger's were adhereing to BlockBusters policy of no late fee's and decided without calling Mao to charge the late fee's owed ,previously exempted, under the contract he agreed to.

So then we have a pissed off Mao. How dare they charge him! Rat Bastards!

But amazingly, suddenly it's a Canadian problem!!

Again, too many of you Canadians are herded carefully into the corner and taught "right" and "wrong" in the marketplace, when there is no such thing.

Yep apparently there are no other contracts in any part of the world except Canada and we've been duped all this time! Who the fuck knew?? And why didn't they tell us! I guess I was busy working on those US Class Action claims I have against American Companies. Surely there is a Canadian somewhere on those companies thqt was responsible for such a mistake. If only I knew!

This is comedy at it's best. I fuck up..and blame society for their screwups and thats why it cost me 45.00 It's those bastard Canadians! If they had a spine I could keep the frickin movies for a month for free! Who gives a shit if I agreed the movies would be returned in 3 days!! I AM Mao!! Don't they know this and respect it???

Low life Canadian sheep!

Mao, we aren't sheep. And, if you disagree you are more than welcome to move and no longer be a drain on our medical and infrastructure costs.

Nothing personal...but then again you did make it personal didn't you? We Canadians, born and rasied here, are starting to get more than a little pissed off about rants on how bad our society and collective backbones are.

Your family came here because despite any problems we might have it's a helluva lot better than many places in the world. You, yes you Mao, can get an education here with personal choice involved. You can get medical attention 24/7 with no questions asked around this wonderful country. We ...the "US" people..are quite proud of what we've accomplished. We aren't finished working on it by any means. It will only get better.

Here's another interesting question for you Mao. Would I be as welcome in your native country as you are in ours? Would they welcome my non observance of traditional customs and change laws to allow me to do it? Would they welcome and embrace the Stetson hat I wear as part of my heritage while a member of the Police force? Or would they tell me...when in Rome...act like it?

M2

 

[deadman]

Today I go to Rogers to rent a movie. Late charges are, get this, $45. Normally, given Blockbuster's NO LATE FEES and the fact that others have followed suit, Rogers staff usually cuts them in half or eliminate the fees entirely. This time, they said they are no longer cutting fees at all, corporate policy.

So I told the Rogers chick that this would be the last movie I ever rent from them after five years or so. And I rent DOZENS of titles every week.

Blockbuster is right across the street, and so off I will go. Nothing personal to the girl, but to Ted Rogers: Fuck you and your antiquated business models! No more ass raping for me!

Interesting that my new favourite video store around the corner also has NO LATE FEES, and their business model is doing just fine.

BTW, the girl tried while I was leaving to drop some money off (hmm, thought there was no more cutting) to save me as a customer, but NO DICE. Buh bye Ted you bitch.

Rant over. Anyone else?

There is a reason there is a late fee - If you dont return it, then they cant rent it again. To bring it to an extreme, if everyone stopped returning their DVDs on time, then they wouldnt be able to rent anymore causing you to complain that they didnt have the movies you wanted when you went there.
this is simple business. If you think downloading is a better alternative, I would suggest that stealing your neighbours newspaper each moring is better than having toi shell out money to get it yourself. Cheaper and not too much inconvenience to run across your lawn each morning.

 

[Mao Tse Tongue]

Another sheep. Baaaah.

Yes, I'm bitching, but I'm savvy enough that it's not personal. It's just business, and I'm going elsewhere. I'll let all you contract-loving guys pay your late fees dutifully because rules are rules.

 

[frankcastle]

A week is a reasonable length of time.

Late fees are part of Rogers system.

Buyer beware.

I prefer blockbuster for the max of $2 for late movies.

And I prefer indy stores for renting less mainstream or hard to find movies.

 

[Mao Tse Tongue]

There is a reason there is a late fee - If you dont return it, then they cant rent it again. To bring it to an extreme, if everyone stopped returning their DVDs on time, then they wouldnt be able to rent anymore causing you to complain that they didnt have the movies you wanted when you went there.
this is simple business.

This is wrong. More baaaaah sheepdom.

In fact, Blockbuster and many others, including the big online rental places, actually let you keep the movies as long as you want.

Let me put this is perspective for you: When I was 19, I worked for two years in a video store--one of the biggest Mom and Pops in Canada. The owner and I were close, and we clerks all knew that late fees were THE MOTHERFUCKING GRAVY OF THE BUSINESS. They helped pay for the movies and your holiday in Barbados.

Consumers have figured it out and now the marketplace has choice where you don't have to pay late fees. So your assumption is wrong.

BTW, I mentioned the torrents as the extreme when customers get tired of being nickel and dimed, so best to try and make a few bucks off a customer than piss him off where he/she goes elsewhere or illegal.

Simple business

 

[deadman]

This is wrong. More baaaaah sheepdom.

In fact, Blockbuster and many others, including the big online rental places, actually let you keep the movies as long as you want.

Let me put this is perspective for you: When I was 19, I worked for two years in a video store--one of the biggest Mom and Pops in Canada. The owner and I were close, and we clerks all knew that late fees were THE MOTHERFUCKING GRAVY OF THE BUSINESS. They helped pay for the movies and your holiday in Barbados.

Consumers have figured it out and now the marketplace has choice where you don't have to pay late fees. So your assumption is wrong.

BTW, I mentioned the torrents as the extreme when customers get tired of being nickel and dimed, so best to try and make a few bucks off a customer than piss him off where he/she goes elsewhere or illegal.

Simple business

Here are some facts:
Blockbuster's finanancial performance after they put through the no late fee policy went south - there was talk of them not making their debt payments at one point this year. So good for you they dont charge you but not good for the business.

Second fact - If you look at publicly traded video rental chains the business runs about a 10% net margin - i.e. after tax profits are about 10% of revenue if your are best in breed. Blockbuster has been as low as 4%. Not exactly a cash machine. Though I am sure that when you worked the counter in high school it was a like printing money. Something must have changed since then.

 

[Garrett]

Baaa baaa baaa. You know.. Blockbuster does have late fees. At a certain point (8 days?) they will charge you for the movie. As for torrents, either the quality sucks or download times tend to be long. Even most digital feeds are too compressed and you see a lot of artifacts. Just like with music, the original source is usually the highest resolution.

My advice.. when you rent, rip. Then watch when you feel like it.

 

[the_big_E]

return on time

problem solved

 

[Meister]

Why is Apple such a threat to the music business, but at the same time its saviour? Because Steve Jobs figured that if people could steal music for free, then you'd better make it damned cheap if you're asking people to pay. Market forces.

Actually, 99 cents a song is not that cheap.

The video rental market is a dying breed. I think Rogers realizes that and milks it until the cow is dead. The future is video on demand.

 

[eric42]

Why do certain customers feel that they are so much better than everyone else that the rules, policies and procedures do not apply to them. When they don't get their way they cry like spoiled brats. Often people will give in to these assholes to shut them up.
Has anybody ever stood behind some whining fool at a store who is wasting everyone elses time in line being ignorant. Shut the fuck up and get the hell outta the way.

 

[massman]

Sure you can criticize Rogers for their late charge policy, but the fact is you agreed to return the movies on time, and you reneged on that agreement. You are however perfectly within your right to rent from someone else that doesn't require late fees.

 

[Meister]

Sure you can criticize Rogers for their late charge policy, but the fact is you agreed to return the movies on time, and you reneged on that agreement. You are however perfectly within your right to rent from someone else that doesn't require late fees.

Yes, but there is such a thing as reasonable. For example, there was a class action suit agains the 407 about when you didn't pay your bill after 30 days they would ding you with a 35 dollar (I believe) penalty. i don't know what the outcome of that suit was, though.

 

[massman]

Anytime I've signed up at a video store, I've been told what the late policies are. At that time my choices are to A)sign the agreement or B) say "Fuck you Ted Rogers and your stupid ass raping " and storm out the door to the next video store.
In theory if you keep a movie for an extra day, they could have rented to someone else. If I rent a car, agree to bring it back tomorrow, and then decide to just keep it for another day or two cause I can't be bothered to return it, I'll get a hefty late charge. Sure many video stores are getting rid of late fees as a smart marketing tool. I'd hardly think that those stores who chose to keep them would be considered "ass rapers"

Yes, but there is such a thing as reasonable. For example, there was a class action suit agains the 407 about when you didn't pay your bill after 30 days they would ding you with a 35 dollar (I believe) penalty. i don't know what the outcome of that suit was, though.

 

[thewheelman]

Sounds to me as if he was expecting the discount ,so he holds on to the videos even longer, but it backfired this time.

Sure Rogers is cash grabbing, but at least he keeps the money in town. You don't see him trying to finance some losing foreign venture with our money. The dome never looked better and the Jays now have $$ to be contenders.

Anyways it's easy to hate Rogers, cuz you can put a face to the hate. With Bell you can't even do that...

 

[dude abides]

Anyways it's easy to hate Rogers, cuz you can put a face to the hate. With Bell you can't even do that...

Here ya go, the man in charge of Bell Canada.. Hate away.. Michael Sabia

 

[Cobster]

I knew there'd be a post like this.

Here's the answer: Late fees are bullshit. The market and the Internet is killing them. I can download movies for free.

If you can download for free, why are you renting?
Everything else you just said is babble...

The idea of paying for that movie twice is bullshit. Blockbuster figured that out, so too the online video rental places. Hell even my local Indie place figured it out.

The idea that Rogers penalizes you when they've already got your $5 and charges another $5 when the competition is either less or free? Forget it! Buh bye Ted, you old fart.

Ted Rogers isn't worth billions because he was "nice" and "thoughtful" of his customers. It's a business.

Why is Apple such a threat to the music business, but at the same time its saviour? Because Steve Jobs figured that if people could steal music for free, then you'd better make it damned cheap if you're asking people to pay. Market forces.

Right, but he's also charging an arm and a leg for those iPods that work GREAT with iTunes. Song sales at $1.00 a song add up to millions.
iPods are damn expensive.

Sympatico works like a charm, Fido has my business for cell, and Rogers is no longer in my household. Finally!

Being that I used to work at Hell Sympatico's/Mobility's head office, knowing their prices and how they work. I can tell you right now, you're getting fucked by them without question.

So don't lull yourself into this false sense of security.
This is all business, not charity.

 

[Cobster]

Blah blah blah. I'm not bitching about the fact of rules, but that Ted's rules are outdated and he's going to pay by losing customers. Simple as pie.

You make it sound like a matter of principle and right and wrong, and there's no such thing in the marketplace.

Ya there is.
You were wrong in returning the video (late), they were right in charging you a late fee.
Did you read the fine print when signing the contract?

Return your shit on time and you wouldn't be paying these late fees.
Rent/burn, THEN watch.

 

[peteeey]

I'm surprised he didn't blame the Liberals.

This thread is actually kind of humorous. Mao returned 3 movies a few days late and got nicked for 45.00 as per the contract agreement spelled out in the Roger's stores.

Now, Roger's were adhereing to BlockBusters policy of no late fee's and decided without calling Mao to charge the late fee's owed ,previously exempted, under the contract he agreed to.

So then we have a pissed off Mao. How dare they charge him! Rat Bastards!

But amazingly, suddenly it's a Canadian problem!!




M2

 

[Mao Tse Tongue]

Glancing over the same response over and over--you were "wrong" Mao, stop whining and return on time--I see why Ted Rogers is rich.

So few of you understand that it goes beyond me returning movies on time, and has to do with an outdated business model that is going to take a trashing--and very soon. A few guys seem to get it, but most of you just get offended by my tone, rather than my content. Ah well.

And yes, Canadians generally do what they're told without question, which leads to the very monopolies and lack of competition I'm railing against. I just didn't expect so many sheep on this board of all boards.

As you were, baaah.

 

[Mao Tse Tongue]

Here are some facts:
Blockbuster's finanancial performance after they put through the no late fee policy went south - there was talk of them not making their debt payments at one point this year. So good for you they dont charge you but not good for the business.

Second fact - If you look at publicly traded video rental chains the business runs about a 10% net margin - i.e. after tax profits are about 10% of revenue if your are best in breed. Blockbuster has been as low as 4%. Not exactly a cash machine. Though I am sure that when you worked the counter in high school it was a like printing money. Something must have changed since then.

This is dumb. You think I care what Blockbuster's bottom line is? Plus, with every $5 late fee you're getting on a $5 movie, you're getting $5 PURE profit, because your service levels don't increase in kind. Any idiot knows this.