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Insidious Von

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Giorgia Meloni has become a king maker in Europe. will she align with Ursula von der Leyen or Marine Le Pen. Either way she's become a bigger headache for Macron. Le Pen Is in Putin' pocket.

 
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Giorgia Meloni has become a king maker in Europe. will she align with Ursula von der Leyen or Marine Le Pen. Either way she's become a bigger headache for Macron. Le Pen Is in Putin' pocket.

Meloni has been a disappointment, most Italians are complaining of her softness.
 

Insidious Von

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Meloni has been a disappointment, most Italians are complaining of her softness.
She has an almost 50 percent approval rating keeping her in line with her predecessors Mario Draghi and Giuseppe Conte. She been lucky, Lord Bunga Bunga has passed away and Matteo Salvini and Matteo Renzi are blithering idiots.

Softness, she's a woman, she's supposed to be soft...you don't want a psychopath running the country. She usually hides her Roman accent.

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Because the left has stopped making sense...
The pendulum swings, and groups with similar bases seem to be rising. Can the right handle the populism and actual govern as liberalism is taking more than a bit of a beating in many centres around the world. ?
If Trump wins then globally many groups and right wing governments will be further emboldened. Much of Western Europe, Hungary and Canada likely with a UCP Poilievre majority will find common ground as people are fed up.
All of this gives Putin much slack and Ukraine is finished as a nation. Taiwan is imperiled increasingly.
Centuries ago when the European countries invoked colonialism they did not imagine the future where the descendants of those that they colonized and even enslaved would populate Europe in huge numbers creating a backlash like the Macron Le Pen situation in France.
Russia had no colonies and is not seeing this phenomenon, few would want to immigrate to there and is impoverished and increasingly dependent on China.

Liberalism and Conservatism at their extremes do not work. A return to the centre will eventually happen, but right wing winds are definitely circulating globally.
 

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In actual fact, the Far Right electoral gains were minuscule.
 
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Meloni has been a disappointment, most Italians are complaining of her softness.
At one point when the migrants were flooding Lampedusa, there were complaints and that she is soft on immigration and that she's not extreme right enough.

She picked up in the last few days.

Italy’s Premier Meloni gets domestic, European boost from EU election win

ROME (AP) — Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni’s far-right party won European elections in Italy with a strong 28% of the votes, boosting her leadership at home and consolidating her kingmaker role in Europe.

Meloni’s Brothers of Italy party confirmed its status as the country’s most popular party, even improving its performance from the 26% it won in the 2022 general elections, according to projections by state broadcaster RAI based on almost 70% of votes counted.

The victory in Italy’s voting for European Parliament representatives provides a boost for Meloni, after almost two years in power, mainly at the expense of her governing partners in Rome.

In particular, Matteo Salvini’s hard-right League emerged as one of the biggest losers in the EU vote. After finishing first in the 2019 EU election, with more than 34% of the vote, the League got just 8.5% this time, behind its once junior ally, Forza Italia, which was over 9%.
For the opposition, the main centre-left Democratic Party got 24.5%, followed by the populist Five Star Movement, which received only 10.5%, a seven-point decrease from the 2019 election.

Meloni, who personalized her electoral campaign betting on her personal “brand,” has now positioned herself as one of the most powerful figures in the EU, where far-right parties made major gains, dealing stunning defeats to two of the bloc’s most important leaders: French President Emmanuel Macron and German Chancellor Olaf Scholz.


“I’m proud that we are heading to the G7 and to Europe with the strongest government of all,” Meloni said, commenting on the electoral results at her party’s headquarters early Monday.

She called the outcome “extraordinary” and pledged to use it as “fuel” for the future.

Despite its solid popular support, Meloni’s conservative government needs a strong mandate to deal with the challenges ahead, especially given the fragile state of Italy’s public finances and the prospect of a difficult budget for 2025.

“I think that Meloni gets out of these elections stronger, first of all because this is a government that has not lost consensus, which is quite unique in Europe,” said Giovanni Orsina, director of the school of government at LUISS university in Rome.

“Secondly, with the growth of far-right parties, Meloni is in a pivotal position between the far right and the European People’s Party,” he added.

Based on the latest projections, Meloni’s party will get from 23 to 25 seats in the European Parliament, up from six after the 2019 elections, when it was only a minor opposition party.

 

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If Trump wins then globally many groups and right wing governments will be further emboldened. .........................
"Republics decline into democracies and democracies degenerate
into despotisms."

-Aristotle
 
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Meloni has been a disappointment, most Italians are complaining of her softness.
I don't want meloni to be too hard. I hate those big, fake plastic ones.
 
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In actual fact, the Far Right electoral gains were minuscule.
It depends what you mean. It certainly wasn't a good day for the left.

Like all Western politics, it's about finding the sweet spot. The European Left's challenge has been how to make idealism and ideology work in practice. Much of it sounds better than the reality and the inevitable trade-offs.
 

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Because the left has stopped making sense...
Yes because the "left" is a global collective intelligence all operating in the exact same way. Meanwhile the righties are independent thinkers who "do their own research". 🤡😂
 

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Yes because the "left" is a global collective intelligence all operating in the exact same way. Meanwhile the righties are independent thinkers who "do their own research". 🤡😂
Oh definitely...the righties are a different breed of crazy no question...still...the left global collective or not stopped making sense..you can agree or disagree...you can hate to accept it...they are going full retard...you are a contributor...😂😂😂
 

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Meloni has been a disappointment, most Italians are complaining of her softness.
They say it's because Italy is in financial ruin from covid and desperately needed EU funding to get their economy going again. I hope we see the EU collapse sooner than later. What was suppose to unite Europe has instead divided and destroyed it.
 
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