Former sex-trade worker charged in local HIV investigation

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I wanted to weigh in on this (even though most of you have no idea who I am).

I have studied this aspect of medicine for a number of years and have put in a substantial amount of research into HIV and it's transmission. It was a long-standing concern about such issues that made me quit the hobby altogether, because condom or not, there's a risk - and there's a LOT of nasty shit out there.

This is a hugely serious issue. Do NOT underestimate the threat of transmission and do not think that ONE negative test result puts you in the clear. You need testing for an extended period of time to determine whether or not you're truly safe. I hate to be a downer here, but that's the reality of the situation.

If you're in a relationship and you were involved with "Tasha" in some way, you might want to think about whether or not you're risking the safety of your significant other and how you're going to deal with that.

If you haven't seen "Tasha" but know someone who has, you should inform them.

If you worked with "Tasha" and "knew she had AIDS" (I'm hoping this was after the fact) I sincerely hope you reported her and had her ass canned before she saw a single customer after you found out about her condition. Otherwise, you could be in a heap of trouble yourself (never mind suffering from moral bankruptcy).

The threat from "civilian" sex as opposed to "hobbying" sex is not comparable. If you are active in this hobby you are at a significantly increased chance of getting "something". This industry is all about sex. Statistically, the women you hobby with have more sex, with more partners, than virtually any person you'd find at a bar, club, or any other social event not related to the industry; therefore, they are a high-risk group. YOU are a high-risk group. That's just the way it is; so be safe - but realize that condoms are NOT a guarantee... they never have been. This thread drives that point home. The boogeyman is out there... sometimes right in your backyard.

With regard to testing SPs as part of the hiring process: This helps reduce risk but again, it doesn't guarantee anything. There's a significant latency period involved in the development of this virus and you can have a low viral load and still be a carrier. In fact, the viral load may be low enough that you're clear on tests but still able to transmit... that's why you need routine tests (and as you can see, even those are no guarantee).

I've read about such incidents happening in TO and Hamilton, but never have I been privy to an incident that possibly impacts my friends. I hope this post doesn't sound pedantic but I really wanted to emphasize the fact that there are no guarantees in this situation and ANYONE involved with this "Tasha" is a link in a potentially devastating chain.

Yes, that sounds dramatic but this industry binds everyone together.

Please be careful, and all the best!!
 

xyzz

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FYI-The Rapid hiv test is 99.5 % accurate for presence testing of the hiv antibodies. The contact must have been 3 months prior to the test. The test is available thru local public health clinics. Check the KW website for further info.

In TO for 300 per hour u can have a super hot PSE babe do bbbjcim. I always used a condom for FS and never cim. Locally a 40 tip can get u almost the same thing bbbj. So the next time your safe sp drops 40 bucks while undressing, you’ll know she was very nice to the last guy. I wonder how many guys dropped $40 on Tasha and then went to see a sp that I was seeing. I will get tested again in three months.

WTF is going on at Mistys?? They heard the news from Sophia kiss and Tasha’s BF…. why was Tasha still working until she got arrested??The only person to speak up from there was Katrina. She confirmed who it was one day and then the next day started at ASA. Katrina did the right thing.
 

Dizzle

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Test location

Where would you go in Waterloo Region for an anonymous test? Like most, I am pretty confident there is no problem, but maybe I should check it out.
 

the squid

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Dizzle said:
Where would you go in Waterloo Region for an anonymous test? Like most, I am pretty confident there is no problem, but maybe I should check it out.
99 Regina Street in Waterloo or 150 Main Street in Cambridge. Check dates and times on their website. www.region.waterloo.on.ca

Testing is completely confidential but not anonymous. Staff there are very professional.
 

terb1248

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dsc said:
This is one big point why established indies and agencies are the way to go when hobbying. I hate remembering that at one time Record ads were the way to go. But I am assuming the agency owners do their bit on making sure the ladies are tested. I've always played it safe, honestly sometimes I didn't want to, but it's the SP rules (thankfully).
I agree it is dumb to publish her real name. It is the alias that we need to know. I guess the LE would rather create a panic among all SP's clients, to teach us a lesson.
I never heard any agency owner do anything on making sure the ladies are tested.
 

terb1248

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the squid said:
99 Regina Street in Waterloo or 150 Main Street in Cambridge. Check dates and times on their website. www.region.waterloo.on.ca

Testing is completely confidential but not anonymous. Staff there are very professional.
The rapid test is only available in waterloo (Wednesday morning till 3pm), not in cambridge.
 

terb1248

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Sweet Samantha said:
Ok, fear mongerers, it is me again!

Let's reclarify that THEORETICALLY this is low risk. There is absolutely no evidence (other than anecdotal, which is
NOT evidence) that it has ever been contracted thru bbbj/bbbjcim or any other type of oral activity.

We must also not forget the larger controversy over AIDS. I have no wish to suggest I don't believe it is a serious syndrome, but it has happened thousands of times around the world where people have been diagnosed with AIDS when it turns out not to be true. Only Australia has the best test to date. Many other circumstances create the same results: starvation is 1. It is widely believed that it is not as rampant in Africa as originally thought.

And let's get 1 thing clear: AIDS is not contractable. It is a syndrom that results from something else that you may or may not have contracted thru sexual acts or needle sharing.

However, it is HIV that people need to be aware of. Yet, if you do a search of very reputable medical journals, you will find that there is growing evidence to suggest that HIV is not the cause of AIDS because they have found many individuals who have undergone numerous testing confirming they have AIDS & yet never test positive for HIV. And there are many wo have tested for HIV & never progress to AIDS.

So, what I am trying to say is, to date no one really knows fuck about the cause(s) of HIV or AIDS. Be smart, where a condom during fs. With respect to BBBJ or DATY, herpes is your greater concern. Keep your eyes open.

Sam
This is wrong. There are documented cases by CDC for receptive oral partner.

There is no testing of aids per se. What you believe are very marginal views of a few, absolutely not the main stream of medical research. hiv => aids eventually, except few very very lucky ones.
 

lovegirls

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SP who provides you BBBJ and receive DATY could be HIV infected and blood contact could be possible same as unprotected sex. Therefore protected sex could be less risky than BBBJ and DATY. My view never go for BBBJ or DATY to minimize risk. No evidence that BBBJ/DATY transmit HIV, but how many studies conducted regarding this also not clear. Any SP could be infected with STD?
 

Angela@Mirage

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Sam, your information is completely wrong and it shows an astonishing ignorance of the science behind this syndrome. You are "splitting hairs". True enough... AIDS, per se, is not "contractible". But the link to HIV is irrefutable and there is absolutely no doubt...NONE... that HIV is spread through sexual contact as well as needle sharing. Your statement is analagous to saying that a cold is not contractible. Technically, I suppose this is true. But the virus which causes colds, Rhinovirus, is extremely contageous.

With great suspect, for a woman working in the industry your belief that AIDS is caused by "something else" should be of great concern, not only for your own well-being, but also that of your clients. I am not aware that "starvation" can give a false positive test result, but regardless, the incidence rate of starvation in KW probably isn't of huge concern. This is why these tests need to be repeated and always are in the case of a positive reading.

I suggest you read the information from CDC which I linked to above... and then re-read it until you understand it.
I second that notion.
 

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xyzz said:
WTF is going on at Mistys?? They heard the news from Sophia kiss and Tasha’s BF…. why was Tasha still working until she got arrested??.

BUMP.

PS. Achtung Baby I SWEAR I'm not stalking you lol. :p
 

gundam789

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"An HIV-positive woman who once worked in the sex trade has been charged with exposing a man to the virus without his knowledge"

There is a difference between exposed and in infected.
I honestly don`t understand why so many people are freaking out over this?
HIV is out there i`m sure everyone knows this by now?
There is no way to know if the person you are sleeping with is HIV positive in this business.
I do not know the all story behind this incident , apparently this guy was having a relationship with this girl and had unprotected sex with her?
Every SP you see could petentially be infected with HIV and you actually have to ALWAYS consider this so you can be safe.
I have done a lot of research on regarding the possibility of infection from an unprotected blow job and the chances of contracting the virus from this activity are pretty much impossible , unless there are open cuts on the penis etc...
This was eventually bound to happen after all this is the hobby that we choose.
Lot of people become infected every day with HIV guys , nothing new here.
Stay safe and always use GOOD brand condoms and no oil lubes cause they could weaken the condom.
Other then that only way to stay safe it to stop having sex or only have sex wiht one patner that you know for a fact is HIV negative.
 

gundam789

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"An HIV-positive woman who once worked in the sex trade has been charged with exposing a man to the virus without his knowledge"

There is a difference between exposed and infected.
I honestly don`t understand why so many people are freaking out over this?
HIV is out there i`m sure everyone knows this by now?
There is no way to know if the person you are sleeping with is HIV positive in this business.
I do not know the all story behind this incident , apparently this guy was having a relationship with this girl and had unprotected sex with her?
Every SP you see could petentially be infected with HIV and you actually have to ALWAYS consider this so you can be safe.
I have done a lot of research on regarding the possibility of infection from an unprotected blow job and the chances of contracting the virus from this activity are pretty much impossible , unless there are open cuts on the penis etc...
This was eventually bound to happen after all this is the hobby that we choose.
Lot of people become infected every day with HIV guys , nothing new here.
Stay safe and always use GOOD brand condoms and no oil lubes cause they could weaken the condom.
Other then that only way to stay safe it to stop having sex or only have sex wiht one patner that you know for a fact is HIV negative.

PS

on the article it says "One contact has tested positive" , again without knowing the all story here it is impossible to determine what happened but i am certain that this case was not because of unprotected oral sex.
Unless this girl was really out to get people and only god know what she has done , but since only one person has tested positive i doubt thsi girl was out to get anyone.
 

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Although she has been identified on here as "Tasha" it would be much more helpful for all concerned if the police as well as giving her real name had published a picture of her as well. Sex workers often change their alias and place of employment. It is much more likely that her clients would recognize her from a picture than her real name or description.And does anyone know for sure exactly where all she might have worked?

Earlier this year a young women was charge with having unprotected sex with guys she met in bars in this area without revealing her HIV positive status. She was not only identified by name but her picture was published in local papers and on the internet. I think those who may be involved here deserve the same consideration.
 

gundam789

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"Earlier this year a young women was charge with having unprotected sex with guys she met in bars in this area without revealing her HIV positive status."


In this case you can`t hold the girl responsible of infecting those guys.
They should know better to USE condoms.
Sure , morally speaking this girl is screwed up in the head.
If i suffer of anxiety and go see a doctor and he prescribes be 50 pills of xanax to take once daily, and then i go home and take all of them at once and kill my self , should the doctor be held responsible?

Nowdays if you have sex with a stranger without using condom is the equivalent of commiting suicide.

What i find ironical is how it seems that most of you guys here are completly blind by the reality of the hobby that you practice.
All of a sudden one girls is found to be HIV positive and the all comunity is shocked like it`s the first time they heard of HIV.

" OMG a working girl has HIV how can this be possible?"

are you kidding me?

I am sure there are more girls out there in this hobby that are HIV positive and probably most of us have slept with them without even knowing it.

If you don`t know it makes it ok?

I`m scared of HIV just like everyone else here but you have to be educated on the subject and know the consequences of your action and be able to live with the risks.
Get informed on HIV , and i don`t mean going into some walking clinics to see some stupid doctor that has no clue on HIV transmission and probably never even trated a person with HIV.
Some doctors seem to enjoy scaring the crap put of people when it comes to HIV , and this is even more true in Europe where an HIV test can cost up to 150 Euros. ( just immagine the money they make out of scared people that really never had a significant risk to warrant an HIV test).
Last time i saw my docotr i asked him a very simple question:
I asked him " doctor lets pretend i am married and my wife contracted HIV from a blood transfusion. I love her very much and i would still like to have sexual intercouse with her. Can i?"

He sayd that it could be very dangerous since condoms are not 100 effective against HIV and the virus could sometime slip within the condom.
I then told him that maybe before opening his mouth he should get a little educated on HIV transmission since he is a doctor and there is no excuse for me to know more about HIV transmission then he does.
And i never went back to him again.

There are plenty of serodiscordent couples out there ( one patner being HIV positve and the other HIV negative) and with regular/consistent use of condoms none of the negative have turned out positive.


PS An HIV test is a personal thing and under no circumstances the status of the person can be revealed. In other words this alone gives the right to an HIV positive person not to be obligated to reveal her HIV status. The correct moral thing to do of course would be to tell the patner about her condition so he can protect him self.
But in the end it`s up to you to be smart enough to use a condom every time you have sex, and if you don`t use a condom and pick up HIV the only person you can blame is YOURSELF.
This is like smoking cigarettes , we all know that smoking cigarettes will eventually give you cancer. When you do get cancer what you gona do ? Blame the ciagerette manufactures or blames you stupid self for smoking knowing that someday it might give you cancer?
 

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Ahhh I think your wrong on that. According to the information I got from the health nurse at the sexual health clinic. If you are HIV postive, you are obigated by law to reveal that to any sexual partners you have. No you don't have to tell your friends and employer but if your infected and having sex with an SP then you are obigated to tell her ( and in some cases him, not that there's anything wrong with that) and vice versa
 

sophia kiss

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millwhite said:
Ahhh I think your wrong on that. According to the information I got from the health nurse at the sexual health clinic. If you are HIV postive, you are obigated by law to reveal that to any sexual partners you have. No you don't have to tell your friends and employer but if your infected and having sex with an SP then you are obigated to tell her ( and in some cases him, not that there's anything wrong with that) and vice versa
Thank you, that is the most intellegent thing I have heard all day.
 
gundam789 said:
In this case you can`t hold the girl responsible of infecting those guys.
Actually you're dead wrong. Knowingly exposing a partner to HIV is a crime. In fact there is a guy in the courts now in Hamilton having been charged with first degree murder and aggravated assault for doing just this. As you can see from the following article, this is serious stuff...

As the trial has progressed, my understanding is that this guys defense is only that he wasn't aware of the implications of HIV... (I added the bold.)

AIDS murder trial to proceed
TheSpec.com - Local - AIDS murder trial to proceed
The Hamilton Spectator
Oct 3, 2008
Jury selection will proceed as scheduled on Monday in the double-murder trial of an HIV-positive man accused of deliberately spreading the AIDS virus.

Superior Court Justice Thomas Lofchik yesterday rejected a request by Johnson Aziga, 52, to postpone the trial again so that he could be represented by criminal lawyer Greg Leslie. The lawyer has a heavy caseload and is unavailable to assist Aziga's primary counsel, Davies Bagambiire, until August 2009.

Instead, another Toronto lawyer, Munyonzwe Hamalengwa, agreed yesterday to step in and help defend Aziga. The married but separated father of three children is facing two counts of first-degree murder and 11 counts of aggravated sexual assault in connection with 11 women who were sexual partners.
About 250 citizens have been summoned to appear for jury duty. Once 12 jurors and two alternates have been selected, the case is expected to adjourn until Oct. 20 to allow Hamalengwa time to familiarize himself with the evidence.


gundam789 said:
PS An HIV test is a personal thing and under no circumstances the status of the person can be revealed. In other words this alone gives the right to an HIV positive person not to be obligated to reveal her HIV status.
Your post is a shining example of complete and utter ignorance of the law and sexual responsibility. You are correct that the results of the test are private. However, at the moment you choose to engage in sexual behavior (protected or not) you must, by law, reveal your positive status to your partner. At least you agree that someone is morally obligated to do this, but in fact you are legally responsible to warn someone that your are about to play Russian Roulette with them.

And in a perfect world, anyone positive would do this...
 
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