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Former Israeli space security chief says aliens exist, humanity not ready.

Tomoreno

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2020 and we're still making fun of names in other cultures?
Some parents want us to giggle.

Anyone with a Last name Long, Short, White, Black probably shouldn't name their boys Richard.

I know a guy who's name is Al Babak.

Are we not allowed to have some fun?

How about this??

 
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HungSowel

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It is not that if there is no evidence it is not true, it is if the claim is wild like Aliens have been talking to Trump without evidence then we should assume it is false and it is the burden of the claimant to prove it.

If I said, I am wearing a blue shirt right now, it is reasonable for the reader to assume I am telling the truth as it is not an outrageous claim. If I said I am wearing a blue shirt right now that was given to me by aliens, then I need to prove it.
 

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If James Webb finds strong signs of intelligent life, we can build a follow-up telescope that uses the Sun as a gravitational lens that will allow us to directly image the planet with high resolution so we could see large scale structures on the planet.
Can you guess how many stars have to be studied to locate
an alien civilization?

Let's use an estimate of one trillion as the total number of galaxies
in the observable universe. 100 billion would seem reasonable to
be the average number of stars in one galaxy. Size of our sun to my
knowledge is slightly above average. A number below 10 should pass
as an intelligent guess of average number of planets and moons
to study in each and every star systems. Saturn has 82 moons
including Titan which has been investigated for signs of life.
So I think 10 is still a conservative estimate.

So out of 1 trillion times 100 billion times 10 planets/moons
how many advanced civilizations are out there awaiting discovery
by James Webb? Assume there are intelligent life in one out
of 1 billion planets/moons there would be no less than 1000 trillion
of planets or moons showing signs of life. That is a huge number.
But still even if we are content with finding just one planet
we will have to scan 1 billion planets/moons around us first.

You have to hope that earth happens to be located in a spot of
the universe where alien civilizations concentrated for James
Webb to find something of interest.
 
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The Fermi Paradox exists because civilizations destroy themselves before they achieve transgalactic transport.
 
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HungSowel

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Can you guess how many stars have to be studied to uncover one
single home star of an alien civilization?

Let's use an estimate of one trillion as the total number of galaxies
in the observable universe. 100 billion would seem reasonable to
be the average number of stars in one galaxy. Size of our sun to my
knowledge is slightly above average. A number below 10 should pass
as an intelligent guess of average number of planets and moons
to study in each and every star systems. Saturn has 82 moons
including Titan which has been investigated for signs of life.
So I think 10 is still a conservative estimate.

So out of 1 trillion times 100 billion times 10 planets/moons
how many advanced civilizations are out there awaiting discovery
by James Webb? Assume there are intelligent life in one out
of 1 billion planets/moons and assume that the universe is more
or less homogeneous the telescope has to scan one thousand trillions
of planets or moons to extract a number of possible candidate planets
or moons showing signs of life to uncover one extraterrestrial civilization.

You have to hope that earth happen to be located in a spot of
the universe where alien civilizations concentrated for James
Webb to find something of interest.
I think the James Webb might have a range of 10 light years, it will probably find jack sh*t, but not finding jack shit gives you data. You can say with some certainty that the universe is not teeming with life or intelligent life.
 

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if there is no evidence it does not exist. produce videos and recordings of this meeting with this galactic federation
And when there is a ton of evidence about viruses, ignore it all and pretend it doesn't exist.



p.s. the scientific view is having no evidence of aliens existing means we have no evidence of aliens existing. That's it. Although there is a possibility we will have evidence at a later time, we don't know so there is no reason to conclude they do.
 

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I think the James Webb might have a range of 10 light years, it will probably find jack sh*t, but not finding jack shit gives you data. You can say with some certainty that the universe is not teeming with life or intelligent life.
Thankfully it's primary purpose is not to chat with our galactic neighbours.

And unless they fucked up the construction, there shouldn't be a range limit. Hubble's extreme deep field image has seen stars at something like 60,000 light years away (and stellar formation from billions of years ago/billions of light years away). That said any alien signals or images we can get from even 60,000 ly away would be from a civilisation likely long extinct.
 

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And when there is a ton of evidence about viruses, ignore it all and pretend it doesn't exist.



p.s. the scientific view is having no evidence of aliens existing means we have no evidence of aliens existing. That's it. Although there is a possibility we will have evidence at a later time, we don't know so there is no reason to conclude they do.



acting like frankfooter again can't bother to read the CDC link admitting there are no isolates of the covid 19 virus available




The CDC document is titled, “CDC 2019-Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV) Real-Time RT-PCR Diagnostic Panel.” It was originally published in February, 2020, and re-published in July.

Buried deep in the document, on page 39, in a section titled, “Performance Characteristics,” we have this: “Since no quantified virus isolates of the 2019-nCoV [SARS-CoV-2] are currently available,
 

HungSowel

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Thankfully it's primary purpose is not to chat with our galactic neighbours.

And unless they fucked up the construction, there shouldn't be a range limit. Hubble's extreme deep field image has seen stars at something like 60,000 light years away (and stellar formation from billions of years ago/billions of light years away). That said any alien signals or images we can get from even 60,000 ly away would be from a civilisation likely long extinct.
James Webb is to image planetary atmospheres and not to image stars.
 

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I agree. We're just not ready.

Maybe by the twenty-fifth century, if we're still around.
 

basketcase

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acting like frankfooter again can't bother to read the CDC link admitting there are no isolates of the covid 19 virus available
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Acting like franky and continually requoting discredited information?

Sorry but we have had a full genetic sequence of covid since early spring.
 

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