They had enough vaccine to do it by DECEMBER. Getting it done by Feb is 2 months and hundreds of deaths too late,.Every LTC staff and resident who wanted a vaccine has been double jabbed, it's fact. Read up on some facts and you might be more positive in your outlook, if not, smoke something, you need it.
Dated FEB 15. read it, you might learn something.
All Toronto long-term care residents and staff will have been offered full vaccination by Tuesday
All residents and staff at Toronto long-term care homes will receive their second dose of a COVID-19 vaccine by Tuesday, city officials confirmed.www.cp24.com
Ford Govt rejected proposals to prevent 2nd wave at LTC as "too expensive"
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Better late than never! You have to look at the cup half full as opposed to half empty.
Not acceptable when they had a clear idea of what was about to happen and the means to stop it. Its like a drunk driver getting sober after the crash.
Seriously? You are going to excuse Justin in all of this? Do you know why Ford is not vaccinating? BECAUSE WE DO NOT HAVE ADEQUATE SUPPLY OF VACCINES!
They had enough vaccines provided by the Feds to do ALL LTC by end of Dec. They did not do it. How is this Trudeaus fault?
Now you're just insulting me. Good night.
Ontario to receive 53,000 Moderna COVID-19 vaccine doses by end of December
Ontario says it expects to receive approximately 53,000 doses of the newly approved Moderna COVID-19 vaccine by the end this month.
toronto.ctvnews.ca
Now you're just insulting me. Good night.
Ontario to receive 53,000 Moderna COVID-19 vaccine doses by end of December
Ontario says it expects to receive approximately 53,000 doses of the newly approved Moderna COVID-19 vaccine by the end this month.toronto.ctvnews.ca
Insulted by facts? https://www.mccarthy.ca/fr/node/68526#ONNow you're just insulting me. Good night.
Ontario to receive 53,000 Moderna COVID-19 vaccine doses by end of December
Ontario says it expects to receive approximately 53,000 doses of the newly approved Moderna COVID-19 vaccine by the end this month.toronto.ctvnews.ca
Ontario received 90K Pfizer and 50K moderna in December, It was enough to give EVERYONE in LTC a shot and it would have saved HUNDREDS of lives.
Did you read your own link? 90k doses received on Dec14. There are roughly 100k residents in the ltc facilities or in hospitals waiting for beds, 100k care employees and then there are the front line hospital staff that also are on the phase 1 list. How was 90k in mid December an adequate supply? I'm not excusing Ford, far from it, but I'm not going to look the other way when it comes to the actual responsibility for the vaccines supply, either.
The residents were the most important to vaccinate as they were dying the most, they got 50K moderna in dec as well, by early Jan they could have had every single resident vaccinated. Yes a few workers did die a very small number. Something like 96% of deaths are LTC residents and this govt was too stupid to focus on the real risk, or even worse they did not give a SHIT. Hospitals were not a huge issue, it was in LTC where they could not deal with Covid that the dying was happening. Stop making excuses for absolute, unmitigated, deadly incompetence. They did not even deploy the rapid testing kits that Trudeau sent. Completely clownish incompetence. BTW Doug Ford was 100% free to invest and open a vaccine factory in Ontario if he wanted. Why no blame for him? Every province was free to execute its own vaccine acquistion strategy in parallel with the Feds. So blaming Trudeau is a complete cop out.
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Why? All you can offer is token insults an nothing that refutes at all. Typicall DOFO logic. Any "facts" you have offered have been proven to be 100% bullshit.
The rapid testing only became available in Canada at the end of 2020. There's nothing to refute. You have an agenda in which you want to crucify one politician for fucking up (and deservedly so), but you want to excuse and protect another who fucked up just as badly and, with little argument, a case can be made that he fucked up even worse. That makes the conversation of no interest to me. So, whatever...Ford bad. Justin good.
The first wave had the reasonable excuse that this was new infection and information was evolving. Then we had a few good months in the summer when everyone knew a second wave was coming so that criticism seems far more meaty to me.
Your original comment was "vaccinated" not "fully vaccinated". That distinction is significant butcould have been fixed with "Sorry, I meant fully". Thankfully this kind of drama is what makes the board entertaining.
And yes, LTC homes are a PROVINCIAL responsibility which Ford chose to abdicate because of the cost.
Yes. And what was done with them? It would make a lot of sense for those kits to be immediately sent out to LTC homes, schools, homeless shelters or any other high risk area, allowing them to quickly isolate cases. Instead they sat in a warehouse until the media revealed that detail.
Let me see... A non scientist like myself saw the outbreaks on the cruise ships(remember that?)- an activity heavily favoured by the older set and the first outbreak in Ontario happened at the LTC facility in Bobcaygeon. The non scientist, former immigrant with hardly any English was able to connect the dots and the speed and the ease of transmission. And he came up with a solution: stop all international arrivals immediately and protect the vulnerable, use proper PPE(N95), wash hands and wear safety glasses. The "iron ring of care" wasn't pronounced till months later by Ford, but it was never taken seriously, anyway. They just locked the doors. Justin never stopped the flights- including from China and one of the richest countries in the world came to relay on pos Chinese masks. So if I can figure this out; am I a genius or our experts are that inept? Btw, I was aware of the post SARS report by Dr. Tam and the recommendations it contained- none of them were implemented, btw. Scary part? Our federal health minister wasn't aware that the report even existed, a fact she admitted to on the Evan Solomon radio show.
Seriously??? I have to spell out everything? If the manufacturer sells you a vaccine in two parts, how is taking one part considered vaccinated? It's a two step process. What is so complicated about this? Even the government statistics underline this. Where do you think I got the number I posted- the fucking Ontario government's website! What some seem to have problems with is distinguishing press releases from the actual realities.
And I agree with you 100%. But, that doesn't change the fact that the rapid testing arrived late. And Ontario is not the only province that hesitated and warehoused instead of immediate deployment. But that's just confusion of the slow and inept bureaucracies facing vaccine rollouts and the hotel quarantine directive from Ottawa.
Horrible comparison as cruises are well known cesspits; outbreaks happen on them all the time without becoming pandemics.
The border thing is tiring. The first Canadian case was hospitalized on Jan 23. Take a look at the information available at the time Taiwan only had its first case on the 21st. Even ignoring the impracticality of sealing out border for economic and supply reasons, if he had stopped all incoming travellers, you would have spent the past year complaining about how irresponsible it was to do it. I'd also put pretty good odds that most of the people criticizing Trudeau were accusing him of overreacting in February.
By the time anyone (outside of perhaps the Chinese government) knew how deadly this was, the killer was already in the house.
Most significantly, your desperate avoidance of the topic in the OP says a lot.
